New to a diet any advice please..?

"Heywood Mogroot" wrote in message
om...
Pants are great as a relative measure, but for absolute measures (eg
"36 inch waist") they lie.

Besides, not everyone wears tight fitting pants, I never really liked them,
even when I was slim - I like feeling comfortable above all... I had lost
20lbs before I realized my cargo pants were starting to get really too large
and needed to buy new ones. In the meantime, I had lost around 4.7 inches
around the waist.

On 4/28/2004 4:08 PM, Heywood Mogroot wrote:
jmk wrote in message ...

On 4/28/2004 9:49 AM, Lictor wrote:

"Bob" wrote in message
news.com...


hangs head in shame As I will not "feel" too comfortable in using a tape
measure at this moment in time.


Well, it seems you do use a scale, so why not a tape? A tape actually gives
information that is as important as your weight. If you do exercise a lot,
it's perfectly possible to *gain* weight while losing fat. With a scale, you
will just freak out and wonder what the hell is going on. With a tape, you
will notice the lost centimeters and know what is going on. As far as your
look is concerned, the centimeters are way more important than your weight.



I don't use a tape measure. I can tell whether or not my close fit or
are tighter or looser just fine, thanks. I lost about 80 pounds without
ever using a tape measure. I simply don't feel that it is necessary.
It is tool and if you find it to be useful, great. I just see no reason
to attempt to force someone into using it if they don't want to.


Pants are great as a relative measure, but for absolute measures (eg
"36 inch waist") they lie.

I would contend that you don't *need* an absolute measure. Measuring is
just a tool and it is one that I have successfully done without. As a
result, I don't feel comfortable when I see this tool being more or less
shoved down someone's throat. I mean, I think that people should use
the tools that they are comfortable with and the tools that they find
that work for them.

--
jmk in NC

On 4/28/2004 5:06 PM, Lictor wrote:
"Heywood Mogroot" wrote in message
om...

Pants are great as a relative measure, but for absolute measures (eg
"36 inch waist") they lie.


Besides, not everyone wears tight fitting pants, I never really liked them,
even when I was slim - I like feeling comfortable above all... I had lost
20lbs before I realized my cargo pants were starting to get really too large
and needed to buy new ones. In the meantime, I had lost around 4.7 inches
around the waist.



I never said that I wear tight fitting pants. I said that I can tell
when the fit changes. I'm glad that measuring works for you. For me it
was a useless PitA.

--
jmk in NC

I would contend that you don't *need* an absolute measure. Measuring is
just a tool and it is one that I have successfully done without. As a
result, I don't feel comfortable when I see this tool being more or less
shoved down someone's throat. I mean, I think that people should use
the tools that they are comfortable with and the tools that they find
that work for them.


I do not "feel" comfortable about using a tape measure and I'm sure that it
was suggested to mean well. In truth I am happier not really bothering too
much with a set of scales once that I have got a better understanding of the
food that I need to eat to get my weight down, and keep down.

Bob

jmk wrote in message ...
Pants are great as a relative measure, but for absolute measures (eg
"36 inch waist") they lie.

I would contend that you don't *need* an absolute measure. Measuring is
just a tool and it is one that I have successfully done without. As a
result, I don't feel comfortable when I see this tool being more or less
shoved down someone's throat. I mean, I think that people should use
the tools that they are comfortable with and the tools that they find
that work for them.

of course. the tale of the tape changes so slowly that I only bother
with it every two or three weeks.

But since I quantify so much else with this diet thing, it's nice
seeing actual numerical progress in the one thing I care about most
(losing the tire) with this. Basically, I'm *not* stopping the daily
deficit until I can fit in the 501's that started getting tight 10
years ago, and I'm still too big to try them on to see how close I am
to this goal.

"Bob" wrote in message ws.com...
I would contend that you don't *need* an absolute measure. Measuring is
just a tool and it is one that I have successfully done without. As a
result, I don't feel comfortable when I see this tool being more or less
shoved down someone's throat. I mean, I think that people should use
the tools that they are comfortable with and the tools that they find
that work for them.


I do not "feel" comfortable about using a tape measure and I'm sure that it
was suggested to mean well. In truth I am happier not really bothering too
much with a set of scales once that I have got a better understanding of the
food that I need to eat to get my weight down, and keep down.

#1 rule of dieting & eating healthier: do what works best for you

#1 rule of dieting & eating healthier: do what works best for you

Agree but with the very generous help of you and the others that have given
advice I can make a more informed choice of the method of dieting that I
use.

Bob

Heywood Mogroot wrote:

#1 rule of dieting & eating healthier: do what works best for you

Of course there's no manual! Worse, what works for one doesn't
work for another.

Figuring it out is an exercise in puzzle solving that is more effort
and organization than most people are willing to do. That's why
people want to buy books by someone who already figured it out.
But notice that the books are all different. A clearcut sign that
there is no one right anwser.

The brute force method: Keep a food journal. When you have problems,
look at your recent foods. Try to find patterns that happen when you
eat specific foods. Ideally start with an isolation plan that starts
by removing all but a few foods, that then adds suspect foods back in
one at a time. Way much work. But it's a very high yield process
for anyone willing to put in that much work.