post induction stall

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says...
I don't see how I can eat too much food. 4 eggs and bacon for breakfast is
490 calories. i even cut the bacon out the past week because of the "feared"
nitrates. 2 burgers for dinner is 560 calories. If I had a nice steak I
don't eat burgers that day. I'm eating about 1500-1700 calories a day.

Maybe it's the steaks. They're not absolutely huge steaks, and I use no
sauces.

Maybe it's the splenda. But the thought of drinking only water is
cringe-inducing. Now splenda is "feared" as well as the bacon. Way too
restricting.

I used Splenda all the time during my weight loss phase and also drink
at least one cup of (decaf) coffee a day and don't seem to have any
problems with it.

I don't think I want to do this if I have to cut off my splenda. I just
can't drink only water and not have my decaf coffee. I drink a water, then I
have a flavored water. To me, it's a big jump from sodas all day. I've
already cut bread, rice, pasta, sugar, sodas, diet sodas. If I have to cut
splenda too, that's just too much because I just can't only drink water.
Maybe i'll go back on low calorie, because a few years ago i got my weight
down to 152 by drinking diet soda, eating crackers, and doing dance dance
revolution.

I've had no weight loss in two weeks, not three. i started at 172. after 12
days i was 165 and after 19 days 162. now after 31 days i'm still 162. the
only things i've added are the "greens" such as green beans and salad. the
diet worked better when i ate only tunafish and hamburger. i can't have a
steak?

Sure you can have steak. Just pay attention to the portions. Do you
have a food/postal scale to keep track of how much you are taking in?
Eyeballing it isn't really enough if you don't have a good visual handle
on what a piece of meat ACTUALLY weighs. You could be taking in more
than you think.

Another thing to consider is that the first couple of weeks are about
getting into ketosis. A considerable portion of what you lose then is
water that is dumped from the liver as you use up the glycogen store
before going into ketosis. After that, the weight loss slows down --
THAT is what the 3-week stall is really about -- it's not a stall at
all, it's just that your body is then turning to fat for fuel, which
takes a little longer to lose. 1-2 lbs/week is good. I realize you
haven't lost anything for two weeks, but it could just be a matter of
fine-tuning things like sodium and portion size. Also, when are you
weighing? The best time is first thing in the morning, naked, after the
morning pee. That way you'll get the most consistent measurement
because you will always have been fasting for many hours and the body
does a lot of housekeeping during the night that can contribute to
weight loss (or gain). Any other weighing during the day after you've
been eating/drinking/peeing/pooping will be less consistent.

--
Saffire
205/140/135-140 (aka JUST RIGHT!)
Atkins since 6/14/03
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
In article , wrote:

whoever told me about post induction "stall" was absolutely correct.

starting: 172
week1: 165
week2: 162
week3: 162
week4: 162

:-(

menus:

eggs, sausage, bacon, hamburger, ny strip steak, green beans, mixed
veggies,
salad, flounder, water, fruit springs water with splenda, decaf coffee
with
1 packet splenda. no ketchup. plus, i walk 4 miles three times a week and
weight train 2 times a week.

i can't do more than this. my diet is too limited as it is. i even cut
out
my 2 cups of coffee per day for awhile but it doesn't make a difference.

Try killing the Splenda.


What's supposed to be the problem with Splenda? Many of us use it and
this is about the first time I've seen it implicated in folks not
losing weight.

It can stall some people.
It will kill ketosis for me.

Every time...

Not true for everybody but if you are seriously insulin resistant like I
am, it can.

Switch to sacharrin if you can stand it.


The first thing I note here is that there really is no real problem to
fix at this point. The OP, has not lost weight for only 2 consecutive
weeks. That doesn't meet Atkins definition of a stall. Just about
everyone doing LC has this happen. Plus, the OP is weight training, so
it's possible fat is being turned into muscle. Were any measurements
taken?

3 weeks. Not 2. That's too long.


starting: 172
week1: 165
week2: 162
week3: 162
week4: 162


Better check your math. The OP reached 162 at week2 and stayed at
that weight for 2 weeks. That is 2 weeks, not 3.

As for even 3 weeks being too long, Dr. Atkins defined a stall as 4
weeks without loss of either weight or inchs without a change in
excercise, eating habits, etc. I'm comfortable with that definition
and see no need to start foolling around with what one is doing just
because the scale hasn't moves for TWO weeks.









I do agree with the advice to watch portion size and not eat more than
necessary.

It is easy to underestimate calorie intake, and despite rumors, total
calories still count on the Atkins diet.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

wrote:
every "diet" is weight loss for the short term unless you keep exercising.
you don't know my history, or why i gained the weight back, so don't make
stupid assumptions.

"Marsha" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Maybe i'll go back on low calorie, because a few years ago i got my
weight down to 152 by drinking diet soda, eating crackers, and doing
dance dance revolution.

Gee, that sounds healthy. Are you into weight loss for the short term or
what?

Marsha/Ohio



I think Marsha has a valid point and is just telling you the truth. I
was left wondering what kind of unreasonable expectations you have
after reading you say you were considering going back to crackers and
diet soda. You[ve lost 10 lbs in a month. What the hell did you
expect? LC is working for you. If you view any dietary change as
short term so you can get it over with quickly and go back to your old
ways, you are destined to fail.

wrote:
wrote:

whoever told me about post induction "stall" was absolutely correct.

The word's pause.

starting: 172
week1: 165
week2: 162

So at the end of Induction you'd lost 10 pounds. Since the ideal
loss rate for keeping it off is 4 per month you're actually good for
2 months. Not that any dieter in history would want that to
happen.

week3: 162
week4: 162

It is extremely common to lose nothing in week 3 and common
to lose noting in week 4. It's the body evening out the unrealistic
initial drop.

menus:

eggs, sausage, bacon, hamburger, ny strip steak, green beans, mixed
veggies,
salad, flounder, water, fruit springs water with splenda, decaf coffee
with
1 packet splenda. no ketchup. plus, i walk 4 miles three times a week and
weight train 2 times a week.

i can't do more than this.

You don't need to since nothing's wrong.

As for even 3 weeks being too long, Dr. Atkins defined a stall as 4
weeks without loss of either weight or inchs without a change in
excercise, eating habits, etc. I'm comfortable with that definition
and see no need to start foolling around with what one is doing just
because the scale hasn't moves for TWO weeks.

IMO the reason for the definition is simple - what's realistic and what
isn't. The water loss of Induction often gives newbies unrealistic
expections. Folks don't get that water isn't fat so they think it's
physically possible to lose fat at 3500-4000 calories per pound at the
same rate as water at 0 calories per pound. The four week thing
is specifically to teach what is realistic in the face of that.

Check back if 162 at the end of week 6. That's when the disagreements
will start in the advice on how to proceed. ;^)