Fat-Fast

In article ,
"FOB" wrote:


In ,
Angie stated
| surely eating fat long-term cannot be healthy... then again once you
| find out what it has done to you, it is too late

Why?


Lack of essential amino acids...
While a fat fast will accelerate fat burn, you are also going to lose
some muscle.
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Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article , wrote:

Why can't it be healthy? Atkins proves that eating carbs long term is not
healthy. So, eating fat is not healthy also? Come on.


Balance is the key...
I'd suggest you do some research.

There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. You CAN live
without them. Totally.

Try living on pure fat long enough and you will die. The body needs
essential fatty acids and essential amino acids (from protein) to
survive.
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Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article ,
"Angie" wrote:

I'm talking artery clogging fat... beef, bacon, fatty FAT foods.

Oh Angie...

You know well and good that fat is not evil!

Sugar, that raises your tryglycerides out the roof, is what clogs
arteries! Even my endocrinologist knows this.
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Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article , wrote:

Exactly. And the fact you never really have a meal of any sort, unless you
count 2 oz of cream cheese as a meal. :-) Or 12 macadamia nuts.

Just a suggestion for those that want to test it for themselves. Do it for 4
days, then post back.

Really though, the Atkins diet is outstanding. Why the media and people are
blind to the fact, I'll never know. 172 to 153 in six weeks and healhier
than ever, never hungry and eating foods I love like steak every day. Ribs!
Grilled chicken! Salad! All while cutting my soda habit and never even white
bread or white rice again. Gotta love it.


Agreed. ;-)

I have used fat fasting for up to 5 days to break sticking points, but
it's a bitch to stay on as I'm hungry all the damned time. :-P
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Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

I suggest you read my posts completely.

I never said I was going to eat nothing but fat for the rest of my life. I
said it was 4-5 days, what Dr Atkins suggested.

If balance means avoiding large amount of carbs while eating generous
amounts of protein and fat, I agree with you.
"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message
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In article , wrote:

Why can't it be healthy? Atkins proves that eating carbs long term is not
healthy. So, eating fat is not healthy also? Come on.


Balance is the key...
I'd suggest you do some research.

There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. You CAN live
without them. Totally.

Try living on pure fat long enough and you will die. The body needs
essential fatty acids and essential amino acids (from protein) to
survive.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

I think it would be impossible to eat enough fat to stop weight loss. You'd
probably throw up by then or not be hungry at all. Someone should go on a
2,000 calorie, 90% fat diet and see what happens. However, I agree with the
previous poster... carbs make you fat due to insulin. Fat does not make you
fat.

"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
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wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: wrote:
::::: After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172 to
::::: 153 lbs.
:::::
::::: Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking 3
::::: miles a day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad,
::::: macademia nuts, and egg yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from 158
::::: to 153. Not the most fun "diet" but it helped me break my plateau
::::: (I was hanging around 160 for several weeks). Isn't it amazing,
::::: that the more fat you eat compared to carbs, the MORE fat you
::::: lose?
:::
::: If you eat enough fat, you won't lose weight.
::
:: Do you understand what you just did?
::
:: You've just been told that this person ate a very high fat diet for a
:: period of time and lost weight. You respond by saying that if they
:: eat enough fat they won't lose weight.

Which is true.

::
:: The fact that they succeeded in losing weight by eating a very high
:: fat diet for a period of time cannot be negated simply because you
:: will it so or because of your opinionated "logic".

Eating a very high fat diet is not the same thing as eating so much fat as
to prevent weight loss. You can eat enough fat to prevent weight loss.
Period. That's all I said. Eating more and more fat will not lead to
more weight loss.

::
:: You cannot negate a fact just because you think it ought to be.
::

What fact?

:: The very fact that they lost weight on a very high fat diet should
:: make it clear to you that dietary fat does NOT EQUATE to fat gain
:: simply because you think it ought to.

Are you stupid or what? Eating a high-fat diet isn't the same thing as
eating enough fat to prevent weight loss.

::
:: Time to rethink your beliefs. Fat does not make fat. Carbs do.

TC...don't be stupid...if you don't know that I EAT A HIGH-FAT DIET by
now, you're a complete moron...

What I was attempted to point out is that you can't just eat MORE FAT and
expect to keep losing weight. i.e, eating more fat doesn't equate to more
fat loss, though eating a high-fat diet can, under the appropriate
circumstances. Of course, I don't expect you to believe that since you
think thta only carbs make people fat.

More of your "the world according to TC" logic.

wrote in message
Someone should go on a 2,000 calorie, 90% fat diet and see what happens.


Can you mock up a quick daily menu based on that, and I'll try it.

She didn't say eating only fat.

In ,
OmManiPadmeOmelet stated
| In article ,
| "FOB" wrote:
|
|
|| In ,
|| Angie stated
||| surely eating fat long-term cannot be healthy... then again once
||| you find out what it has done to you, it is too late
||
|| Why?
||
|
| Lack of essential amino acids...
| While a fat fast will accelerate fat burn, you are also going to lose
| some muscle.

wrote:
:: I think it would be impossible to eat enough fat to stop weight
:: loss. You'd probably throw up by then or not be hungry at all.
:: Someone should go on a 2,000 calorie, 90% fat diet and see what
:: happens. However, I agree with the previous poster... carbs make you
:: fat due to insulin. Fat does not make you fat.

Not true. There is still insulin....hence, eating too much will make you
fat. No, fat doesn't make you fat, and neither do carbs. But eating too
much will.

And one can eat too much fat....

::
:: "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
:: ...
::: wrote:
::::: Roger Zoul wrote:
:::::: wrote:
:::::::: After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172
:::::::: to 153 lbs.
::::::::
:::::::: Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking
:::::::: 3 miles a day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad,
:::::::: macademia nuts, and egg yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from
:::::::: 158 to 153. Not the most fun "diet" but it helped me break my
:::::::: plateau (I was hanging around 160 for several weeks). Isn't it
:::::::: amazing, that the more fat you eat compared to carbs, the MORE
:::::::: fat you lose?
::::::
:::::: If you eat enough fat, you won't lose weight.
:::::
::::: Do you understand what you just did?
:::::
::::: You've just been told that this person ate a very high fat diet
::::: for a period of time and lost weight. You respond by saying that
::::: if they eat enough fat they won't lose weight.
:::
::: Which is true.
:::
:::::
::::: The fact that they succeeded in losing weight by eating a very
::::: high fat diet for a period of time cannot be negated simply
::::: because you will it so or because of your opinionated "logic".
:::
::: Eating a very high fat diet is not the same thing as eating so much
::: fat as to prevent weight loss. You can eat enough fat to prevent
::: weight loss. Period. That's all I said. Eating more and more fat
::: will not lead to more weight loss.
:::
:::::
::::: You cannot negate a fact just because you think it ought to be.
:::::
:::
::: What fact?
:::
::::: The very fact that they lost weight on a very high fat diet should
::::: make it clear to you that dietary fat does NOT EQUATE to fat gain
::::: simply because you think it ought to.
:::
::: Are you stupid or what? Eating a high-fat diet isn't the same thing
::: as eating enough fat to prevent weight loss.
:::
:::::
::::: Time to rethink your beliefs. Fat does not make fat. Carbs do.
:::
::: TC...don't be stupid...if you don't know that I EAT A HIGH-FAT DIET
::: by now, you're a complete moron...
:::
::: What I was attempted to point out is that you can't just eat MORE
::: FAT and expect to keep losing weight. i.e, eating more fat doesn't
::: equate to more fat loss, though eating a high-fat diet can, under
::: the appropriate circumstances. Of course, I don't expect you to
::: believe that since you think thta only carbs make people fat.
:::
::: More of your "the world according to TC" logic.

In article ,
"Roger Zoul" wrote:

wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: wrote:
::::: After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172 to
::::: 153 lbs.
:::::
::::: Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking 3
::::: miles a day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad,
::::: macademia nuts, and egg yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from 158
::::: to 153. Not the most fun "diet" but it helped me break my plateau
::::: (I was hanging around 160 for several weeks). Isn't it amazing,
::::: that the more fat you eat compared to carbs, the MORE fat you
::::: lose?
:::
::: If you eat enough fat, you won't lose weight.
::
:: Do you understand what you just did?
::
:: You've just been told that this person ate a very high fat diet for a
:: period of time and lost weight. You respond by saying that if they
:: eat enough fat they won't lose weight.

Which is true.

::
:: The fact that they succeeded in losing weight by eating a very high
:: fat diet for a period of time cannot be negated simply because you
:: will it so or because of your opinionated "logic".

Eating a very high fat diet is not the same thing as eating so much fat as
to prevent weight loss. You can eat enough fat to prevent weight loss.
Period. That's all I said. Eating more and more fat will not lead to more
weight loss.

::
:: You cannot negate a fact just because you think it ought to be.
::

What fact?

:: The very fact that they lost weight on a very high fat diet should
:: make it clear to you that dietary fat does NOT EQUATE to fat gain
:: simply because you think it ought to.

Are you stupid or what? Eating a high-fat diet isn't the same thing as
eating enough fat to prevent weight loss.

::
:: Time to rethink your beliefs. Fat does not make fat. Carbs do.

TC...don't be stupid...if you don't know that I EAT A HIGH-FAT DIET by now,
you're a complete moron...

What I was attempted to point out is that you can't just eat MORE FAT and
expect to keep losing weight. i.e, eating more fat doesn't equate to more
fat loss, though eating a high-fat diet can, under the appropriate
circumstances. Of course, I don't expect you to believe that since you
think thta only carbs make people fat.

More of your "the world according to TC" logic.

No matter WHAT diet plan you are following, calories still count.....

Atkins fat fast is set at 1,000 kc.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson