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  #11  
Old November 17th, 2006, 06:02 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Willow Herself
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Default Weight loss is simple - eat fruits and vegetables?


"Scott Smith" wrote in message
. ..
*Snip*

Don't have much details on your "diet" but it seems to me that it's very
limited, boring, and not all that nutritious...


Boring, perhaps. Limited, perhaps. Not nutritious? Hold it... compared to?


Compared to a diet with a balance between fruits and vegetables, proteins,
whole grains, dairy products, legumes...
As I said, you didn't elaborate, I'm just going from what you said..


As Chris has said, I'm happy that I have lost the weight (over 70 lbs)
and maintained the loss, while eating a much more varied and complete
array of foods.


No one is saying this regimen has an exclusive choke hold on weight loss,
but I can practically guarantee it will work for nearly everyone.


You know that Hollywood juice diet? It actually works.. if you follow it,
you WILL lose weight... doesn't mean it's maintainable, or healthy... but it
works..


I do, exercise, which means I'm a thin healthy person, as opposed to all
those skinny persons I know who wouldn't be able to walk a mile..


Most of these people can't walk a mile, not because they don't necessarily
exercise, but because they're loading their system down with fuel that
doesn't nourish the engine.


Exactly, like ating fruits and veggies, very little protein, and nothing
really substantial.. most of them (around me that is) are "dieting"
continually, and yeah they are skinnier than me.. they wouldn't be able to
follow me for more than 5 minutes though.

I'm certainly not against exercise in any capacity, but the regimen I'm
espousing is _very_ healthy for the participant and doesn't require
exercise in order to work. There are many diets out there that will help a
person lose weight, however a vast majority of them are unhealthy gimmicks
aren't suitable for longterm use.


Losing weight IS simple, eat less move more.. eat less doesn't mean eat less
variety of foods, but less quantity of foods.


Fit is a heck of a lot more healthy than thin...


Again, I have nothing against exercise, although I would take issue with
this statement. A person who exercises (and is physically fit) yet loads
their system down with garbage will, in my opinion, be far less healthy
than a person who consumes the aforementioned regimen I mentioned yet
doesn't (exercise). I have no real interest in arguing for or against
exercise though, other than maintaining the position that it's completely
possible to be healthy and thin without exercise. If you have no interest
in that goal then this regimen isn't for you and that's fine. However,
there are others, like myself though, who enjoy being thin and healthy
without (any real) effort on their part..


You can read this article:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...at-and-fit.htm

Or this one:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...hp?newsid=8237

or this one:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Sep13.html

and tons and tons of others... it doesn't mean you've got to work out 2
hours a day... it just means that if you wanna be healthy.. you've gotta
find "some way" to move..



Another one who miss the point that a lot of us in here have loss the
wait and are maintaining..


No one has missed that point, but if you're happy with your current
regimen, why bother responding to this one?


Because it's another of those "you guys just don't get it" type of post,
which spins a fairy tale unsupported in any way by... well anything..

It's a bit like owning a car you really like and taking the time to stop
by a dealership that sells a different make to tell them you don't really
care for their brand. If what you're doing works for you, great! Stick
with it. Weight loss certainly isn't one size fits all, and I'd never
suggest it is. I hope you're not either.


If you don't want opposition, don't post in a public forum. Hope you don't
think that you're the first one to come in posting "Well just eat more
fruits and vegetables!!!" type post..

It's not one size fits all certainly.. but guess what.... there's no fail
prove "if you do this it is SURE to work" either.. read your own subject
line...
Will~


  #12  
Old November 17th, 2006, 06:11 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Edna Pearl
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Default Weight loss is simple - eat fruits and vegetables?

"Scott Smith" wrote in message
m...
snip
Bean sprouts snip flaxseed oil


Okay, now you're actually starting to make some sense. If you're including
*legumes* with your fruits and vegetables, and *whole grains*, and
*supplements* including EFAs, then you're starting to sound like a healthy
"vegetarian" diet. Which can be fine, for lots of people. It's also a far
cry from where you started this thread, when you said "fruits and vegetables
exclusively." That, IMNSHO, is an overly simplistic description of what it
takes to eat a healthy vegetarian diet, especially for newcomers here who
might not know a lot about nutrition, who may be looking for a magic fix to
a lifetime of health and weight issues, and who may be thinking, "Ah, maybe
a week eating nothing but canned peaches and iceberg lettuce for six week
will work!" And a diet that limited is a bad idea. Of course.

ep


  #13  
Old November 17th, 2006, 06:13 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Edna Pearl
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Posts: 88
Default Weight loss is simple - eat fruits and vegetables?

Great post, Willow.

My money says this is either a troll or a spammer. Or just an exceedingly
dim person.

ep


"Willow Herself" wrote in
message ...

"Scott Smith" wrote in message
. ..
*Snip*

Don't have much details on your "diet" but it seems to me that it's very
limited, boring, and not all that nutritious...


Boring, perhaps. Limited, perhaps. Not nutritious? Hold it... compared
to?


Compared to a diet with a balance between fruits and vegetables, proteins,
whole grains, dairy products, legumes...
As I said, you didn't elaborate, I'm just going from what you said..


As Chris has said, I'm happy that I have lost the weight (over 70 lbs)
and maintained the loss, while eating a much more varied and complete
array of foods.


No one is saying this regimen has an exclusive choke hold on weight loss,
but I can practically guarantee it will work for nearly everyone.


You know that Hollywood juice diet? It actually works.. if you follow it,
you WILL lose weight... doesn't mean it's maintainable, or healthy... but
it works..


I do, exercise, which means I'm a thin healthy person, as opposed to all
those skinny persons I know who wouldn't be able to walk a mile..


Most of these people can't walk a mile, not because they don't
necessarily exercise, but because they're loading their system down with
fuel that doesn't nourish the engine.


Exactly, like ating fruits and veggies, very little protein, and nothing
really substantial.. most of them (around me that is) are "dieting"
continually, and yeah they are skinnier than me.. they wouldn't be able to
follow me for more than 5 minutes though.

I'm certainly not against exercise in any capacity, but the regimen I'm
espousing is _very_ healthy for the participant and doesn't require
exercise in order to work. There are many diets out there that will help
a person lose weight, however a vast majority of them are unhealthy
gimmicks aren't suitable for longterm use.


Losing weight IS simple, eat less move more.. eat less doesn't mean eat
less variety of foods, but less quantity of foods.


Fit is a heck of a lot more healthy than thin...


Again, I have nothing against exercise, although I would take issue with
this statement. A person who exercises (and is physically fit) yet loads
their system down with garbage will, in my opinion, be far less healthy
than a person who consumes the aforementioned regimen I mentioned yet
doesn't (exercise). I have no real interest in arguing for or against
exercise though, other than maintaining the position that it's completely
possible to be healthy and thin without exercise. If you have no interest
in that goal then this regimen isn't for you and that's fine. However,
there are others, like myself though, who enjoy being thin and healthy
without (any real) effort on their part..


You can read this article:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...at-and-fit.htm

Or this one:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...hp?newsid=8237

or this one:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Sep13.html

and tons and tons of others... it doesn't mean you've got to work out 2
hours a day... it just means that if you wanna be healthy.. you've gotta
find "some way" to move..



Another one who miss the point that a lot of us in here have loss the
wait and are maintaining..


No one has missed that point, but if you're happy with your current
regimen, why bother responding to this one?


Because it's another of those "you guys just don't get it" type of post,
which spins a fairy tale unsupported in any way by... well anything..

It's a bit like owning a car you really like and taking the time to stop
by a dealership that sells a different make to tell them you don't really
care for their brand. If what you're doing works for you, great! Stick
with it. Weight loss certainly isn't one size fits all, and I'd never
suggest it is. I hope you're not either.


If you don't want opposition, don't post in a public forum. Hope you don't
think that you're the first one to come in posting "Well just eat more
fruits and vegetables!!!" type post..

It's not one size fits all certainly.. but guess what.... there's no fail
prove "if you do this it is SURE to work" either.. read your own subject
line...
Will~



  #14  
Old November 17th, 2006, 06:31 PM posted to alt.support.diet
[email protected]
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Posts: 227
Default Weight loss is simple - eat fruits and vegetables?


Scott Smith wrote:
I don't understand what's so difficult about losing weight. Have any of you
tried just eating with fruits and vegetables exclusively? Fiber will go
right through you, so if you eat fruits and vegetables exclusively (well,
with a piece of chicken or beef every other day for protein) it's
practically like you're eating nothing at all. In fact, I've found I lose
too much weight if I don't supplement it with a few slices of bread every
other day.

How many of you have tried, or are willing to try, this? It works (almost
too well for me) and it's the simplest thing you'll ever do to lose weight.


That would certainly work. The human body can function well on a
variety of diets, including vegetarian only, high-fat, low-fat, low
carb, etc, so long as you count the calories. People argue about the
healthiest kind of diet, and the one you suggest sounds healthy
depending on your choice of vegetables and fruits certainly. You could
even skip the chicken. I do. I also eat grain products and get
additional protein from egg whites and nonfat milk, but the high fiber
idea is valid. High fiber and high water along with low fat is the way
I went when I lost my 85 pounds...along with moderate exercise, and a
vegetarian diet. dkw

  #15  
Old November 17th, 2006, 06:38 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Willow Herself
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Posts: 1,887
Default Weight loss is simple - eat fruits and vegetables?

It always amazes me to see people show up, make a limited statement, and
then act all traumatized when they meet opposition...

What do they expect?


"Yesh mashter... You are so right mashter... "

Sheesh
Will~

"Edna Pearl" wrote in message
...
Great post, Willow.

My money says this is either a troll or a spammer. Or just an exceedingly
dim person.

ep


"Willow Herself" wrote in
message ...

"Scott Smith" wrote in message
. ..
*Snip*

Don't have much details on your "diet" but it seems to me that it's
very limited, boring, and not all that nutritious...

Boring, perhaps. Limited, perhaps. Not nutritious? Hold it... compared
to?


Compared to a diet with a balance between fruits and vegetables,
proteins, whole grains, dairy products, legumes...
As I said, you didn't elaborate, I'm just going from what you said..


As Chris has said, I'm happy that I have lost the weight (over 70 lbs)
and maintained the loss, while eating a much more varied and complete
array of foods.

No one is saying this regimen has an exclusive choke hold on weight
loss, but I can practically guarantee it will work for nearly everyone.


You know that Hollywood juice diet? It actually works.. if you follow it,
you WILL lose weight... doesn't mean it's maintainable, or healthy... but
it works..


I do, exercise, which means I'm a thin healthy person, as opposed to
all those skinny persons I know who wouldn't be able to walk a mile..

Most of these people can't walk a mile, not because they don't
necessarily exercise, but because they're loading their system down with
fuel that doesn't nourish the engine.


Exactly, like ating fruits and veggies, very little protein, and nothing
really substantial.. most of them (around me that is) are "dieting"
continually, and yeah they are skinnier than me.. they wouldn't be able
to follow me for more than 5 minutes though.

I'm certainly not against exercise in any capacity, but the regimen I'm
espousing is _very_ healthy for the participant and doesn't require
exercise in order to work. There are many diets out there that will help
a person lose weight, however a vast majority of them are unhealthy
gimmicks aren't suitable for longterm use.


Losing weight IS simple, eat less move more.. eat less doesn't mean eat
less variety of foods, but less quantity of foods.


Fit is a heck of a lot more healthy than thin...

Again, I have nothing against exercise, although I would take issue with
this statement. A person who exercises (and is physically fit) yet loads
their system down with garbage will, in my opinion, be far less healthy
than a person who consumes the aforementioned regimen I mentioned yet
doesn't (exercise). I have no real interest in arguing for or against
exercise though, other than maintaining the position that it's
completely possible to be healthy and thin without exercise. If you have
no interest in that goal then this regimen isn't for you and that's
fine. However, there are others, like myself though, who enjoy being
thin and healthy without (any real) effort on their part..


You can read this article:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...at-and-fit.htm

Or this one:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...hp?newsid=8237

or this one:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Sep13.html

and tons and tons of others... it doesn't mean you've got to work out 2
hours a day... it just means that if you wanna be healthy.. you've gotta
find "some way" to move..



Another one who miss the point that a lot of us in here have loss the
wait and are maintaining..

No one has missed that point, but if you're happy with your current
regimen, why bother responding to this one?


Because it's another of those "you guys just don't get it" type of post,
which spins a fairy tale unsupported in any way by... well anything..

It's a bit like owning a car you really like and taking the time to stop
by a dealership that sells a different make to tell them you don't
really care for their brand. If what you're doing works for you, great!
Stick with it. Weight loss certainly isn't one size fits all, and I'd
never suggest it is. I hope you're not either.


If you don't want opposition, don't post in a public forum. Hope you
don't think that you're the first one to come in posting "Well just eat
more fruits and vegetables!!!" type post..

It's not one size fits all certainly.. but guess what.... there's no fail
prove "if you do this it is SURE to work" either.. read your own subject
line...
Will~





  #16  
Old November 17th, 2006, 06:51 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Scott Smith
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Posts: 40
Default Weight loss is simple - eat fruits and vegetables?


"Willow Herself" wrote in
message ...

"Scott Smith" wrote in message
. ..
*Snip*

Don't have much details on your "diet" but it seems to me that it's very
limited, boring, and not all that nutritious...


Boring, perhaps. Limited, perhaps. Not nutritious? Hold it... compared
to?


Compared to a diet with a balance between fruits and vegetables, proteins,
whole grains, dairy products, legumes...
As I said, you didn't elaborate, I'm just going from what you said..


I consider dairy products anathema. Legumes are always a good idea(protein),
of course. Whole grains are optional, in my opinion. In addition, wheatgrass
juice (and vegetable juices in general) is a terrific idea.

As Chris has said, I'm happy that I have lost the weight (over 70 lbs)
and maintained the loss, while eating a much more varied and complete
array of foods.


No one is saying this regimen has an exclusive choke hold on weight loss,
but I can practically guarantee it will work for nearly everyone.


You know that Hollywood juice diet? It actually works.. if you follow it,
you WILL lose weight... doesn't mean it's maintainable, or healthy... but
it works..


As I'd mentioned in an earlier post, there are plenty of gimmicks out there
that will certainly "work" but aren't sustainable nor healthy. Cocaine will
certainly work for weight loss too, but there's no question it's not only
unhealthy but dangerous. The ideal is to shoot for something healthy,
sustainable and practically guaranteed to work. How many regimens can you
think of that fit that criteria?


I do, exercise, which means I'm a thin healthy person, as opposed to all
those skinny persons I know who wouldn't be able to walk a mile..


Most of these people can't walk a mile, not because they don't
necessarily exercise, but because they're loading their system down with
fuel that doesn't nourish the engine.


Exactly, like ating fruits and veggies, very little protein


No one said anything about very little protein. I specified that if a person
needs to increase their protein intake, eating up to (and possibly more)
than two pieces of meat won't jeopardize this particular regimen.

and nothing really substantial.. most of them (around me that is) are
"dieting" continually, and yeah they are skinnier than me.. they wouldn't
be able to follow me for more than 5 minutes though.


Well, without having examined their diet, it's difficult to ascertain the
delimma.

I'm certainly not against exercise in any capacity, but the regimen I'm
espousing is _very_ healthy for the participant and doesn't require
exercise in order to work. There are many diets out there that will help
a person lose weight, however a vast majority of them are unhealthy
gimmicks aren't suitable for longterm use.


Losing weight IS simple, eat less move more.. eat less doesn't mean eat
less variety of foods, but less quantity of foods.


That's the difference. The regimen I'm espousing, a person doesn't have to
eat less to continue losing. Nor is exercise required.


Fit is a heck of a lot more healthy than thin...


Again, I have nothing against exercise, although I would take issue with
this statement. A person who exercises (and is physically fit) yet loads
their system down with garbage will, in my opinion, be far less healthy
than a person who consumes the aforementioned regimen I mentioned yet
doesn't (exercise). I have no real interest in arguing for or against
exercise though, other than maintaining the position that it's completely
possible to be healthy and thin without exercise. If you have no interest
in that goal then this regimen isn't for you and that's fine. However,
there are others, like myself though, who enjoy being thin and healthy
without (any real) effort on their part..


You can read this article:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...at-and-fit.htm


The conclusion of this article: "Obese people who exercise have half the
death rate of those who are trim but don't exercise, a leading expert said
Tuesday."

The unanswered question is, how many study participants that did not
exercise actually maintained a highly nutritional regimen?

Or this one:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...hp?newsid=8237


Again, the same premise as above.

or this one:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Sep13.html


This article basically emphasizes the idea that exercise without proper diet
and proper diet without exercise is a toss-up of sorts(based on the two
studies which were pointed out initially).

and tons and tons of others... it doesn't mean you've got to work out 2
hours a day... it just means that if you wanna be healthy.. you've gotta
find "some way" to move..


Not true, as the article above implies. Working out will not make you
healthy, necessarily. It can make you fit, which is correlated with health,
but exercise alone does not make one healthy, in my opinion. If such a
premise were true, one could simply work out and consume whatever they like.



Another one who miss the point that a lot of us in here have loss the
wait and are maintaining..


No one has missed that point, but if you're happy with your current
regimen, why bother responding to this one?


Because it's another of those "you guys just don't get it" type of post,
which spins a fairy tale unsupported in any way by... well anything..


On the contrary, although I'm not vegan, there's plenty of evidence which
shows a vegan diet, for instance, is completely healthy, provided the diet
is supplemented with B12 and EFA's(flaxseed works). You may want to peruse
www.veganmd.com for more details.

It's a bit like owning a car you really like and taking the time to stop
by a dealership that sells a different make to tell them you don't really
care for their brand. If what you're doing works for you, great! Stick
with it. Weight loss certainly isn't one size fits all, and I'd never
suggest it is. I hope you're not either.


If you don't want opposition, don't post in a public forum.


No one said anything about feeling as though others shouldn't oppose such a
regimen. However, I don't see the point in opposing someone else's regimen
if you've found something that already works 'for you'. I defer to my
previous analogy.

Hope you don't think that you're the first one to come in posting "Well
just eat more fruits and vegetables!!!" type post..


Probably no more than you'd be the first to suggest exercising to maintain
fitness. Neither is bad, but if you're happy just exercising, I'm certainly
not going to post in your thread stating how ineffective I think it when
lacking what I consider a proper nutritional component. If your method works
for you (and others), fine. Likewise, if the aforementioned method works for
me(and others), what's the problem? You do what works for you. I'm just
trying to give others an alternative that some might find more suitable and
that is known to work very, very effectively.

It's not one size fits all certainly.. but guess what.... there's no fail
prove "if you do this it is SURE to work" either.. read your own subject
line...
Will~


I don't believe it's one size fits all, however you're misconstruing the
comment. To clarify, while the regimen will work for nearly everyone, there
are some who would rather opt for an alternate sure-fire method because they
may feel the lack of variety offered in eating fruits and vegetables is
simply too unpalatable for them. For others, like myself, they find it quite
palatable and have no problem maintaining such a regimen.


  #17  
Old November 17th, 2006, 06:56 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Scott Smith
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Posts: 40
Default Weight loss is simple - eat fruits and vegetables?


"Edna Pearl" wrote in message
...
Great post, Willow.

My money says this is either a troll or a spammer. Or just an exceedingly
dim person.


I'm neither a troll, spammer or a dim person. No more than you or anyone is
that's responding to my post. I certainly don't label others here as such
simply because I strongly disagree with their viewpoints. I'm certainly not
demanding respect by any stretch, but I do find your quick assumption highly
disrespectful nonetheless.


"Willow Herself" wrote in
message ...

"Scott Smith" wrote in message
. ..
*Snip*

Don't have much details on your "diet" but it seems to me that it's
very limited, boring, and not all that nutritious...

Boring, perhaps. Limited, perhaps. Not nutritious? Hold it... compared
to?


Compared to a diet with a balance between fruits and vegetables,
proteins, whole grains, dairy products, legumes...
As I said, you didn't elaborate, I'm just going from what you said..


As Chris has said, I'm happy that I have lost the weight (over 70 lbs)
and maintained the loss, while eating a much more varied and complete
array of foods.

No one is saying this regimen has an exclusive choke hold on weight
loss, but I can practically guarantee it will work for nearly everyone.


You know that Hollywood juice diet? It actually works.. if you follow it,
you WILL lose weight... doesn't mean it's maintainable, or healthy... but
it works..


I do, exercise, which means I'm a thin healthy person, as opposed to
all those skinny persons I know who wouldn't be able to walk a mile..

Most of these people can't walk a mile, not because they don't
necessarily exercise, but because they're loading their system down with
fuel that doesn't nourish the engine.


Exactly, like ating fruits and veggies, very little protein, and nothing
really substantial.. most of them (around me that is) are "dieting"
continually, and yeah they are skinnier than me.. they wouldn't be able
to follow me for more than 5 minutes though.

I'm certainly not against exercise in any capacity, but the regimen I'm
espousing is _very_ healthy for the participant and doesn't require
exercise in order to work. There are many diets out there that will help
a person lose weight, however a vast majority of them are unhealthy
gimmicks aren't suitable for longterm use.


Losing weight IS simple, eat less move more.. eat less doesn't mean eat
less variety of foods, but less quantity of foods.


Fit is a heck of a lot more healthy than thin...

Again, I have nothing against exercise, although I would take issue with
this statement. A person who exercises (and is physically fit) yet loads
their system down with garbage will, in my opinion, be far less healthy
than a person who consumes the aforementioned regimen I mentioned yet
doesn't (exercise). I have no real interest in arguing for or against
exercise though, other than maintaining the position that it's
completely possible to be healthy and thin without exercise. If you have
no interest in that goal then this regimen isn't for you and that's
fine. However, there are others, like myself though, who enjoy being
thin and healthy without (any real) effort on their part..


You can read this article:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...at-and-fit.htm

Or this one:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...hp?newsid=8237

or this one:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Sep13.html

and tons and tons of others... it doesn't mean you've got to work out 2
hours a day... it just means that if you wanna be healthy.. you've gotta
find "some way" to move..



Another one who miss the point that a lot of us in here have loss the
wait and are maintaining..

No one has missed that point, but if you're happy with your current
regimen, why bother responding to this one?


Because it's another of those "you guys just don't get it" type of post,
which spins a fairy tale unsupported in any way by... well anything..

It's a bit like owning a car you really like and taking the time to stop
by a dealership that sells a different make to tell them you don't
really care for their brand. If what you're doing works for you, great!
Stick with it. Weight loss certainly isn't one size fits all, and I'd
never suggest it is. I hope you're not either.


If you don't want opposition, don't post in a public forum. Hope you
don't think that you're the first one to come in posting "Well just eat
more fruits and vegetables!!!" type post..

It's not one size fits all certainly.. but guess what.... there's no fail
prove "if you do this it is SURE to work" either.. read your own subject
line...
Will~





  #18  
Old November 17th, 2006, 06:57 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Scott Smith
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 40
Default Weight loss is simple - eat fruits and vegetables?


"Willow Herself" wrote in
message ...
It always amazes me to see people show up, make a limited statement, and
then act all traumatized when they meet opposition...

What do they expect?


I'm not traumatized, but it likewise amazes me that others are so quick to
respond to issues that they've apparently resolved themselves.


"Yesh mashter... You are so right mashter... "

Sheesh
Will~

"Edna Pearl" wrote in message
...
Great post, Willow.

My money says this is either a troll or a spammer. Or just an
exceedingly dim person.

ep


"Willow Herself" wrote in
message ...

"Scott Smith" wrote in message
. ..
*Snip*

Don't have much details on your "diet" but it seems to me that it's
very limited, boring, and not all that nutritious...

Boring, perhaps. Limited, perhaps. Not nutritious? Hold it... compared
to?

Compared to a diet with a balance between fruits and vegetables,
proteins, whole grains, dairy products, legumes...
As I said, you didn't elaborate, I'm just going from what you said..


As Chris has said, I'm happy that I have lost the weight (over 70 lbs)
and maintained the loss, while eating a much more varied and complete
array of foods.

No one is saying this regimen has an exclusive choke hold on weight
loss, but I can practically guarantee it will work for nearly everyone.

You know that Hollywood juice diet? It actually works.. if you follow
it, you WILL lose weight... doesn't mean it's maintainable, or
healthy... but it works..


I do, exercise, which means I'm a thin healthy person, as opposed to
all those skinny persons I know who wouldn't be able to walk a mile..

Most of these people can't walk a mile, not because they don't
necessarily exercise, but because they're loading their system down
with fuel that doesn't nourish the engine.

Exactly, like ating fruits and veggies, very little protein, and nothing
really substantial.. most of them (around me that is) are "dieting"
continually, and yeah they are skinnier than me.. they wouldn't be able
to follow me for more than 5 minutes though.

I'm certainly not against exercise in any capacity, but the regimen I'm
espousing is _very_ healthy for the participant and doesn't require
exercise in order to work. There are many diets out there that will
help a person lose weight, however a vast majority of them are
unhealthy gimmicks aren't suitable for longterm use.

Losing weight IS simple, eat less move more.. eat less doesn't mean eat
less variety of foods, but less quantity of foods.


Fit is a heck of a lot more healthy than thin...

Again, I have nothing against exercise, although I would take issue
with this statement. A person who exercises (and is physically fit) yet
loads their system down with garbage will, in my opinion, be far less
healthy than a person who consumes the aforementioned regimen I
mentioned yet doesn't (exercise). I have no real interest in arguing
for or against exercise though, other than maintaining the position
that it's completely possible to be healthy and thin without exercise.
If you have no interest in that goal then this regimen isn't for you
and that's fine. However, there are others, like myself though, who
enjoy being thin and healthy without (any real) effort on their part..

You can read this article:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...at-and-fit.htm

Or this one:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...hp?newsid=8237

or this one:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Sep13.html

and tons and tons of others... it doesn't mean you've got to work out 2
hours a day... it just means that if you wanna be healthy.. you've gotta
find "some way" to move..



Another one who miss the point that a lot of us in here have loss the
wait and are maintaining..

No one has missed that point, but if you're happy with your current
regimen, why bother responding to this one?

Because it's another of those "you guys just don't get it" type of post,
which spins a fairy tale unsupported in any way by... well anything..

It's a bit like owning a car you really like and taking the time to
stop by a dealership that sells a different make to tell them you don't
really care for their brand. If what you're doing works for you, great!
Stick with it. Weight loss certainly isn't one size fits all, and I'd
never suggest it is. I hope you're not either.


If you don't want opposition, don't post in a public forum. Hope you
don't think that you're the first one to come in posting "Well just eat
more fruits and vegetables!!!" type post..

It's not one size fits all certainly.. but guess what.... there's no
fail prove "if you do this it is SURE to work" either.. read your own
subject line...
Will~







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Old November 17th, 2006, 07:06 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Scott Smith
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Scott Smith wrote:
I don't understand what's so difficult about losing weight. Have any of
you
tried just eating with fruits and vegetables exclusively? Fiber will go
right through you, so if you eat fruits and vegetables exclusively (well,
with a piece of chicken or beef every other day for protein) it's
practically like you're eating nothing at all. In fact, I've found I lose
too much weight if I don't supplement it with a few slices of bread every
other day.

How many of you have tried, or are willing to try, this? It works (almost
too well for me) and it's the simplest thing you'll ever do to lose
weight.


That would certainly work. The human body can function well on a
variety of diets, including vegetarian only, high-fat, low-fat, low
carb, etc, so long as you count the calories. People argue about the
healthiest kind of diet, and the one you suggest sounds healthy
depending on your choice of vegetables and fruits certainly. You could
even skip the chicken. I do. I also eat grain products and get
additional protein from egg whites and nonfat milk, but the high fiber
idea is valid. High fiber and high water along with low fat is the way
I went when I lost my 85 pounds...along with moderate exercise, and a
vegetarian diet. dkw


Congratulations on losing such a high quantity of weight. I probably did
tend to oversimplify the regimen a bit by failing to mention the need for a
certain amount of protein and EFA supplementation, although I'm sure you'd
agree these are very easy to supplement. You also mentioned high water
consumption, which I'd wholeheartedly agree. Water isn't naturally
replenished, after all.

The main reason I consider this such a very successful regimen is because
fibre isn't digested, therefore it must pass through you. In my estimation,
it's virtually impossible not to lose weight by eating a diet primarily
composed of fibre via fruits and vegetables. The fact it's extremely healthy
is a definite plus.


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Old November 17th, 2006, 07:20 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Edna Pearl
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Default Weight loss is simple - eat fruits and vegetables?

"Scott Smith" wrote in message
m...
I probably did tend to oversimplify the regimen a bit by failing to
mention the need for a certain amount of protein and EFA supplementation,


Thank you. I would also submit that you also "tend[ed] to oversimplify the
regimen a bit" by calling it "simple" in your header.

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