Running damages knees or joints?

Hi, I am rather heavy (kg. 75 x 1,65, female) but I would very much
like to run for leisure and for loosing weight.
I read that running is not the best thing for those who are
overweight, but I cannot loose weight without running (tried with
biking, skiing, diet, but loose just nothing).
Running could damage my knees and ankles? Am I really too heavy for
running?

"dolce" wrote in message
...
Hi, I am rather heavy (kg. 75 x 1,65, female) but I would very much
like to run for leisure and for loosing weight.
I read that running is not the best thing for those who are
overweight, but I cannot loose weight without running (tried with
biking, skiing, diet, but loose just nothing).
Running could damage my knees and ankles? Am I really too heavy for
running?

If my conversions are correct you're 5'4" and weigh approximately 165
pounds. This doesn't seem excessively overweight for running. Have you
tried some weight training? I tried running a few years ago and gave it up
due to knee pain. It wasn't in the joint but in the muscles surrounding the
knee. I've been doing resistance weight training (including squats and leg
extensions) and it seems to have improved this problem. I can now bike for
miles without any knee pain. I tried running last night for the first time
in ages and didn't have one twinge of knee pain. I'm sure building muscle
in this area has been beneficial to me.

Were you a runner in the past? If not you might want to check out
www.runnersworld.com for some good advice on beginning a running program.

Many in the group use this site for excellent information on weight
training. http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html
Krista has excellent information on dieting, too.

Beverly

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 7:59:43 -0500, Ignoramus14056 wrote
(in message ):

Running MAY damage joints (knees and hips). It's best to be careful
and never run when you experience joint pain. You can start, but be
ready to curtail running. Again, pay attention to your condition and
be careful.

You can lose weight without running, or with running, only if you eat
less calories than you spend.

(calories spent - calories eaten)/3500 = your weight loss

i
223/173/180

So then what's the point of exercise?

Hello Dolce,

I agree with ignor, you can lose weight without running. What is your
real goal here...to lose weight...or start running? I use a stair climber
and walk 5X a week and have lost 65 pounds in about 20 weeks. I can't run
at all, with any luck I may be able to semi jog in the future. You could be
experiencing weight loss resistance, which could be a result of an
underactive thyroid, estrogen imbalance, or metabolic syndrome. If you
visit a doctor and have some test run they may find you have one of the
above mentioned items.

Hope you find what your looking for,

Paul

"dolce" wrote in message
...
Hi, I am rather heavy (kg. 75 x 1,65, female) but I would very much
like to run for leisure and for loosing weight.
I read that running is not the best thing for those who are
overweight, but I cannot loose weight without running (tried with
biking, skiing, diet, but loose just nothing).
Running could damage my knees and ankles? Am I really too heavy for
running?

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 10:35:59 -0600, "Paul"
wrote:

Hello Dolce,

I agree with ignor, you can lose weight without running.

Oh, well, I know I can.
Actually I lost many kilos during my vacations last summer because I
used to swim twice a day for about one hour each time.
Unfortunately, there are no pools around where I live, so I just
cannot continue with that exercise.

What is your
real goal here...to lose weight...or start running?

I want to lose weight.
I biked about six months, about three-four times a week for almost one
hour.
Though this exercise was not completely unuseful (afterwards, I could
easily walk in the mountain, swim, and, during Christmas vacations, go
skiing), it did not work for losing weight.
I would like to run beause I think it will be easier to spend more
calories with it (as I did for the swimming last summer).



I use a stair climber
and walk 5X a week and have lost 65 pounds in about 20 weeks. I can't run
at all, with any luck I may be able to semi jog in the future. You could be
experiencing weight loss resistance, which could be a result of an
underactive thyroid, estrogen imbalance, or metabolic syndrome. If you
visit a doctor and have some test run they may find you have one of the
above mentioned items.

Oh, I would prefer to avoid that :-(

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:00:34 GMT, "Beverly"
wrote:


"dolce" wrote in message
.. .
Hi, I am rather heavy (kg. 75 x 1,65, female) but I would very much
like to run for leisure and for loosing weight.
I read that running is not the best thing for those who are
overweight, but I cannot loose weight without running (tried with
biking, skiing, diet, but loose just nothing).
Running could damage my knees and ankles? Am I really too heavy for
running?

If my conversions are correct you're 5'4" and weigh approximately 165
pounds. This doesn't seem excessively overweight for running. Have you
tried some weight training? I tried running a few years ago and gave it up
due to knee pain. It wasn't in the joint but in the muscles surrounding the
knee. I've been doing resistance weight training (including squats and leg
extensions) and it seems to have improved this problem. I can now bike for
miles without any knee pain. I tried running last night for the first time
in ages and didn't have one twinge of knee pain. I'm sure building muscle
in this area has been beneficial to me.

Were you a runner in the past? If not you might want to check out
www.runnersworld.com for some good advice on beginning a running program.

Thank you.

Many in the group use this site for excellent information on weight
training. http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html
Krista has excellent information on dieting, too.

I'll have a look, thank you.

"dolce" wrote in message
...
Hi, I am rather heavy (kg. 75 x 1,65, female) but I would very much
like to run for leisure and for loosing weight.
I read that running is not the best thing for those who are
overweight, but I cannot loose weight without running (tried with
biking, skiing, diet, but loose just nothing).
Running could damage my knees and ankles? Am I really too heavy for
running?

At your height and weight you probably aren't too heavy to run, but it
depends on the condition of your joints and muscles. I didn't start running
until I was under 200 lbs because I had concern about my joints and didn't
want to end up with long-term injury. I had also been doing strength
training to develop and strengthen the muscles in my legs (and elsewhere).

The key to healthy running is in the shoes. Heavier runners benefit from a
shoe made for stability or severe pronation. To get more information about
that you may want to check www.runnersworld.com

The 5 mile (not 5K) that I hope to run in March has a special division for
men over 200 lbs and women over 150 lbs. It's also sponsored by a brewery
and will be serving beer at the after-race party

Running isn't the only exercise that will help you lose weight, but it is a
way to burn calories quickly.

Jenn

Ignoramus14056 wrote:


(calories spent - calories eaten)/3500 = your weight loss

Cool..., so let's see..., if I run today & burn 250 calorie, then
consume 15000 calories of my favorite chocolate chip cookies, I'll
.....

(250 - 15000)/3500 = -4.2

..... lose a little over 4 pounds! Got to love that math ) !

"Bill Davis" wrote in message
...
Ignoramus14056 wrote:


(calories spent - calories eaten)/3500 = your weight loss

Cool..., so let's see..., if I run today & burn 250 calorie, then
consume 15000 calories of my favorite chocolate chip cookies, I'll
....

(250 - 15000)/3500 = -4.2

.... lose a little over 4 pounds! Got to love that math ) !

Keep in mind that it takes your body approximately 12 calories per pound
(since I assume you are male) just to exist on a daily basis provided you
actually walk around and do stuff. If you were say, 175 lbs x 12 cal = 2100
plus the 250 you burned in exercise then you'd be looking at 2350-15000/3500
= -3.61

Ignoramus14056 wrote in
:

In article , JMA
wrote:

"Bill Davis" wrote in message
...
Ignoramus14056 wrote:


(calories spent - calories eaten)/3500 = your weight loss

Cool..., so let's see..., if I run today & burn 250 calorie,
then consume 15000 calories of my favorite chocolate chip
cookies, I'll ....

(250 - 15000)/3500 = -4.2

.... lose a little over 4 pounds! Got to love that math ) !

Keep in mind that it takes your body approximately 12 calories
per pound (since I assume you are male) just to exist on a
daily basis provided you actually walk around and do stuff. If
you were say, 175 lbs x 12 cal = 2100 plus the 250 you burned
in exercise then you'd be looking at 2350-15000/3500
= -3.61



And a negative number for weight loss is weight GAIN... Come on
people, you all are supposed to know what are negative numbers.

(calories spent - calories eaten) / 3500 = weight LOSS

If you eat more than you spend, you get a negative number on the
left, and therefore a negative loss, or a GAIN.

i
223/173/180


Useless anecdote: Scientists working in Antartica have to consume
8000 calories a day just to maintain body weight. so if you REALLY
want to lose weight and aren't prone to major depression, you know
where to go!