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"Luna" wrote ...

Did you know that a bagel has as much sugar as a donut? Yet you would
encourage me to eat a bagel instead of a salad with shrimp?

harrumph ... there's been an ad on a local radio station lately advertising
bagels - sweet ones, IIRC - and at the end the woman says in a whisper
"bagels are good for you"

I have to stop myself yelling back at the radio "no they bloody aren't!"

Almost as bad as pushing a marshmallow-filled chocolate bar by touting it as
lower fat - of course, marshmallow has less fat than chocolate, but it's
still sugar!

Sheesh! Dodgy advertising. Not illegal perhaps, but definitely immoral.


Rachel
(New Zealand)

Peter wrote:
|| By the way I manage a business where cutomer service is everything
|| (a hotel); we do all we can to please our guests. The hotel I
|| manage
|| is a rather upscale brand, and we maintain certain brand standards.
|| Occassionally someone will come in who is obviously not in the right
|| hotel for their needs. If they cannot be satisfied with the product
|| that
|| pleases 99.9999% of our customers, sometimes we suggest that they
|| might be
|| happier at the Best Value Inn across the street.

Carmen wrote:
| Translated:
| We do not allow guests to throw keg parties in the elevators nor do we
| encourage streaking, filling the hot tubs with Jell-O, burping
| contests in the lobby, asking room service for ramen noodles and Cheez
| Whiz, putting flip-flops out for shoe shine service or swimming in the
| pool in cut-offs. G

Carmen! You've stayed at my hotel!! ;-)
--
Peter
270/223/180
website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

Carmen wrote:

| Your best bet is to nod politely or ignore the Martha
| Morelowcarbthanyou folks the same as you would that rabid cousin who
| keeps telling you that your purchase of Nike shoes is morally
| equivalent to keeping a slave. |

Huh? It's 6 a.m. and i haven't been to bed yet, so my brain's a bit foggy.
I don't get the analogy. Unless it's an oblique reference to Walmart
shopping, which is *sure* to bring out 150 posters who will rant about
children in China being chained to the walls for 20 hour a day, fed an
occassional handful of maggoty rice, given a sip of water as a reward for
extra productivity, forced to sacrifice their childhood and paid $2 a week
so that decadent evil Americans can have the convenience of one-stop
shopping in their neighborhoods.
g.

--
Peter
270/223/180
website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

I never encouraged you to eat anything. Some people can eat breads in
realistic moderation. But I say do what works for you and good luck with it!

"Luna" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 01:24:30 GMT, "Chrono-Z" wrote:

Thanks for the encouragement . I'm still going to hang around here.
Mostly
because the great recipes and exercise advice. This thing i'm doing now
isn't exactly low carb in the traditional sense, but cutting out excess
sugar (junk food) is still a part of it, like any good way of eatting
should
be of course.
"Carmen" wrote in message

I totally agree with that !!!!!
I have always felt that junk food and excess sugar should be cut out
or at least kept to a minimum.


Did you know that a bagel has as much sugar as a donut? Yet you would
encourage me to eat a bagel instead of a salad with shrimp? I'm not an
Atkins follower, but the diet I made up for myself seems to be close to
the
Atkins plan. I simply stopped eating foods that either made me sleepy
after
eating them or didn't satisfy my appetite but instead triggered binges.
Then lo and behold I find I'm losing weight, and I find out that I'm
actually doing a low-carb diet.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

On 11-Apr-2004, "marengo" wrote:
Hi,
| Your best bet is to nod politely or ignore the Martha
| Morelowcarbthanyou folks the same as you would that rabid cousin
| who keeps telling you that your purchase of Nike shoes is morally
| equivalent to keeping a slave. |

Huh? It's 6 a.m. and i haven't been to bed yet, so my brain's a bit
foggy. I don't get the analogy. Unless it's an oblique reference
to
Walmart shopping, which is *sure* to bring out 150 posters who will
rant
about children in China being chained to the walls for 20 hour a
day, fed
an occassional handful of maggoty rice, given a sip of water as a
reward for extra productivity, forced to sacrifice their childhood
and paid $2
a week so that decadent evil Americans can have the convenience of
one-stop
shopping in their neighborhoods.
g.

Sleep deprivation didn't prevent you from getting the intent of my
analogy. :-)

Take care,
Carmen

Hi,
On 11-Apr-2004, Sleepyman wrote:

Hey Carm, Hope you enjoy Easter,

Same for you and yours Sleepy. :-)

I have Mu/Chung Bob, Doe, Martini, and their minion sockpuppet
trolls all killfiled, and re-killfiled after morphing. The problem
is that
the people in this group continued X Posting after being asked not
to.

There *are* a few ornery types in here. I read both groups, so I saw
that. It looked like it stemmed from the type of request to cease the
crossposting. Some people get all uptight when the first request is
something like "Listen you crossposting dumbass. If you weren't as
dumb as a box or rocks you'd know we don't like crossposts". Go
figure. G

I realize that some peoples newsreaders don't warn them when they
crosspost, but I check headers. A lot of posters were using Agent,
which asks you if you want to post to all newsgroups the message has
been posted to, and tells you how many groups that is. There have
been many of those threads. The cave man diet thread was especially
useless.

That's one of the reasons I love NewsRover so much. You can set it up
to preemptively killfile posts that are crossposted to more than user
selected number groups. You can also set it up to post to
crossposted threads *but* to do so in a separate post to every group.
When you reply to a post there's a window that shows all the groups
the post will go to, and you can selectively remove (or add if you
wanted) newsgroups.

What I was referring to specifically was the Gay Marriage debacle
that generated countless posts. Many a day the only posts in ASD on
that
topic were the X Posted ones from people here! And all that did was
drag more and more posters into the endless spiral into the toilet.
And then being told that it was my fault that I hadn't killfiled the
guilty parties from here! Justifiable anger I do believe.

I see that that thread is still raging on in ASDiabetes too. Harkens
back to what I said about beliefs and logic.

Yea I saw the X Posts from Mu today, so I assume the rest have
followed him in. Oh well, at least Mu does post some good humor on
occasion.

I didn't see any more from him today. Hopefully he and the family are
enjoying their Easter. I'm on the computer because DH is *still*
asleep at 10:47 am. Lazy man. :-) I slept in myself but for me
that means 6:45 am. Good thing about being an early riser is the
peace and quiet.

Take care,
Carmen

Sleep deprivation didn't prevent you from getting the intent of my
analogy. :-)

Take care,
Carmen

I have really gotton a kick out all what you wrote. I say to myself, she sure
is good at customer service. You really are too!

Good for you!

I have a disability, and the handicap parking spaces often make the
difference between my being able to go in a store or not. (I ihave good
days when I can walk farther than other days).

What infuriates me most is to see some able-bodied young punk (it's usually
teenage girls though) who borrowed Grandma's handicap placard -- or car with
the hc plates -- and park in the handicap spot, then go bopping across the
parking lot. I learned that by law in this state, the police can't question
someone about the legitimacy of their handicap if they have a placard,
unless there's a complaint. But I sure as heck can! I've been known to
park bumper to bumper behind one of these clowns, blocking them in with my
car, then taking my time shopping. (I figure I'm not going to die from
being overweight or any blood sugar related illness; you'll more likely see
my body on CNN after I'm shot in a fit of road rage by somebody I ****ed off
who was parking illegally in the handicap spot).



I have a handicap parking placard too. I have had it for 2-3 years ago. I got
it when I went to school. Mainly for Fibromyalgia. Some days, yes I really need
it, somedays I don't and don't bother using it. Its on the days I do use it,
and I have to circle a parking lot, and there is not enough handicap parking
spots to part. Then I drive down the rows, and see that there are people parked
in the spots and they do not have the plackard.

I have never been questioned yet. I have heard of others being questioned about
their use of a handicap plackard and they have FMS. I think its because we look
healthy, but inside we are in chronic pain. Alot of us are young. If I see a
elderly person needing the spot to park, I let them take it. I see others in
need of it more too, and sometimes feel bad about me using one. But I think
again on it because it was my doctor who suggested I use a handicap parking
plackard. I seem to fight that I am really handicapped in any way. I don't like
to face it. I want to be normal.

I think there is not enough handicap parking spots out there for all of the
ones needing them. I get so tired of circling parking lots on days I really
need a parking spot that is for handicapped, and I cannot find one. Then all
the ones parked in them, they are legally parked. I either park at the back, or
go back home.

Good for you both Peter and Carmen!

Hi Peter,
On 11-Apr-2004, "marengo" wrote:

I have a disability, and the handicap parking spaces often make the
difference between my being able to go in a store or not. (I ihave
good days when I can walk farther than other days).

What infuriates me most is to see some able-bodied young punk (it's
usually teenage girls though) who borrowed Grandma's handicap
placard -- or
car with the hc plates -- and park in the handicap spot, then go
bopping
across the parking lot. I learned that by law in this state, the
police can't
question someone about the legitimacy of their handicap if they have
a
placard, unless there's a complaint. But I sure as heck can! I've
been
known to park bumper to bumper behind one of these clowns, blocking
them in
with my car, then taking my time shopping. (I figure I'm not going
to die
from being overweight or any blood sugar related illness; you'll
more
likely see my body on CNN after I'm shot in a fit of road rage by
somebody I
****ed off who was parking illegally in the handicap spot).

The sentiment is understandable - probably more so when you're
eligible for one yourself. I'd appreciate it if they would increase
the penalty for parking in a spot without the proper placard or
license plate to 6 months' loss of license. I'm not sure what they
could do about improper use of someone else's placard or car w/tag.
Not all handicaps are visible, so mere appearance can't be depended
on.

Take care,
Carmen

Hi,
On 12-Apr-2004, (Sunshyne) wrote:

I have a handicap parking placard too. I have had it for 2-3 years
ago. I got it when I went to school. Mainly for Fibromyalgia. Some
days, yes I
really need it, somedays I don't and don't bother using it. Its on
the days I do
use it, and I have to circle a parking lot, and there is not enough
handicap
parking spots to part. Then I drive down the rows, and see that
there are
people parked in the spots and they do not have the plackard.

The root cause seems to be that the penalties aren't severe enough to
prevent the rat *******s from stealing from the handicapped.

I think there is not enough handicap parking spots out there for all
of the ones needing them. I get so tired of circling parking lots on
days I
really need a parking spot that is for handicapped, and I cannot
find one.
Then all the ones parked in them, they are legally parked. I either
park at
the back, or go back home.

I also don't think that there's enough common sense used by the
doctors who sign the statements for these things. I know two people
with the placards who got them by being whiny. They have no real
difficulties when it's something they *want* to do (like playing
softball) but still got the placard because they had a doctor who
didn't take his/her responsibilty seriously enough as a gatekeeper for
the program. There's nothing in place to prevent that sort of abuse,
either. Too bad.

Take care,
Carmen