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Are there successful Core losers out there?
I am re-posting one snippet from my other, longer thread, because I am
really curious about this while trying to decide what to do going forward. Basically, I find that journaling and calorie/point limits work and diets without fixed limits don't work - at least for me. I realize that dieting is not "one size fits all." When I tried Weight Watchers Core for a while it didn't seem to work at all. The diet doesn't make sense (to me anyway) because it is too easy to take in too many calories even when following the rules literally and not stuffing yourself. Want an avocado? Sure, it's a vegetable so why not? Still hungry? Have another serving of fish or chicken. Core to me seem like Atkins with (1) more variety but (2) less appetite control because you can eat all those insulin spiking foods like bananas and corn and pineapple and so you never get your cravings under control. And when you reduce the trigger foods from Core you're almost back to Atkins, with maybe less variety... What I am curious about is this: Are there any really obese people (like me) who have ever gotten to a normal BMI goal weight and kept it off just following the Core plan? I am skeptical. I know it is possible with Flex Points, but am skeptical about Core. Thanks, doug |
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Are there successful Core losers out there?
I notice that WW has one of their free online trials again, so I
signed up just to see what might have changed, and if they improved from my previous online experience. I notice that they are calling it the "Momentum Plan" now. I've been assigned 37 daily points and 35 weekly points. If the points calculator is still the way it used to be, that comes to approximately 1850 daily calories plus 1750 weekly calories. Did they get rid of Core altogether? There doesn't seem to be a mention of it after signing up for the online plan. Ah, I see. They call it "Simply Filling" and modified the "Core List." doug |
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Are there successful Core losers out there?
"doug lerner" wrote in message ... I am re-posting one snippet from my other, longer thread, because I am really curious about this while trying to decide what to do going forward. Basically, I find that journaling and calorie/point limits work and diets without fixed limits don't work - at least for me. I realize that dieting is not "one size fits all." When I tried Weight Watchers Core for a while it didn't seem to work at all. The diet doesn't make sense (to me anyway) because it is too easy to take in too many calories even when following the rules literally and not stuffing yourself. Want an avocado? Sure, it's a vegetable so why not? Still hungry? Have another serving of fish or chicken. Core to me seem like Atkins with (1) more variety but (2) less appetite control because you can eat all those insulin spiking foods like bananas and corn and pineapple and so you never get your cravings under control. And when you reduce the trigger foods from Core you're almost back to Atkins, with maybe less variety... What I am curious about is this: Are there any really obese people (like me) who have ever gotten to a normal BMI goal weight and kept it off just following the Core plan? I am skeptical. I know it is possible with Flex Points, but am skeptical about Core. Thanks, doug There are success stories on the WW site about successful Core losers. As I read core, there are a number of rules about some of the categories of food. One still has to watch portion size for example. Really paying attention to the satisfaction level is key as well. You have to stop long before stuffed, long before full. You stop at "satisfied", which is basically at the point where you are no longer hungry. Since there is a time delay getting signals to the brain, it's necessary to eat slowly. Core users are advised to "stop and assess" half way through. I.e. stop eating, decide if you are actually still hungry or not, then stop if you are no longer hungry. It has worked for many but takes a different type of mindset. You have to have the strength to avoid emotional eating but eat only for actual physical hunger not emotional hunger. |
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Are there successful Core losers out there?
I did Core, very successfully for over 4 years.
The point of Core is learning to stop when you are satisfied (not full), so you have to listen to your body hunger signals. That means that you might WANT another serving of fish or chicken, but if you're not hungry anymore, then you can't have it. If works for me, it has also for a lot of people I know. Core foods aren't "free foods"... or magic foods, they still have calories. Will~ "doug lerner" wrote in message ... I am re-posting one snippet from my other, longer thread, because I am really curious about this while trying to decide what to do going forward. Basically, I find that journaling and calorie/point limits work and diets without fixed limits don't work - at least for me. I realize that dieting is not "one size fits all." When I tried Weight Watchers Core for a while it didn't seem to work at all. The diet doesn't make sense (to me anyway) because it is too easy to take in too many calories even when following the rules literally and not stuffing yourself. Want an avocado? Sure, it's a vegetable so why not? Still hungry? Have another serving of fish or chicken. Core to me seem like Atkins with (1) more variety but (2) less appetite control because you can eat all those insulin spiking foods like bananas and corn and pineapple and so you never get your cravings under control. And when you reduce the trigger foods from Core you're almost back to Atkins, with maybe less variety... What I am curious about is this: Are there any really obese people (like me) who have ever gotten to a normal BMI goal weight and kept it off just following the Core plan? I am skeptical. I know it is possible with Flex Points, but am skeptical about Core. Thanks, doug |
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Are there successful Core losers out there?
"Dee Flint" wrote in message ... "doug lerner" wrote in message ... I am re-posting one snippet from my other, longer thread, because I am really curious about this while trying to decide what to do going forward. Basically, I find that journaling and calorie/point limits work and diets without fixed limits don't work - at least for me. I realize that dieting is not "one size fits all." When I tried Weight Watchers Core for a while it didn't seem to work at all. The diet doesn't make sense (to me anyway) because it is too easy to take in too many calories even when following the rules literally and not stuffing yourself. Want an avocado? Sure, it's a vegetable so why not? Still hungry? Have another serving of fish or chicken. Core to me seem like Atkins with (1) more variety but (2) less appetite control because you can eat all those insulin spiking foods like bananas and corn and pineapple and so you never get your cravings under control. And when you reduce the trigger foods from Core you're almost back to Atkins, with maybe less variety... What I am curious about is this: Are there any really obese people (like me) who have ever gotten to a normal BMI goal weight and kept it off just following the Core plan? I am skeptical. I know it is possible with Flex Points, but am skeptical about Core. Thanks, doug There are success stories on the WW site about successful Core losers. As I read core, there are a number of rules about some of the categories of food. One still has to watch portion size for example. Really paying attention to the satisfaction level is key as well. You have to stop long before stuffed, long before full. You stop at "satisfied", which is basically at the point where you are no longer hungry. Since there is a time delay getting signals to the brain, it's necessary to eat slowly. Core users are advised to "stop and assess" half way through. I.e. stop eating, decide if you are actually still hungry or not, then stop if you are no longer hungry. It has worked for many but takes a different type of mindset. You have to have the strength to avoid emotional eating but eat only for actual physical hunger not emotional hunger. Makes sense. Weight control, like every other worthwhile goal in life, requires discipline, dedication, and right thinking. In other words, a healthy attitude of thinking about food as something we take for sustenance rather than something we lust after for satisfaction. It should NOT involve slavish point-counting and deprivation. The WW members in this NG who constantly post recipes here and dream about what they will eat tomorrow - in other words, who perpetuate their love of food - simply don't understand this fundamental point and will never maintain normal weight naturally. Food is no different from oxygen. We take it to live. We shouldn't live to take it. |
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Are there successful Core losers out there?
we have several women in my weekly meeting who only did core to lose 80/100
pounds, the trick to the core plan is finding out what is a reasonable portion for you, for me, 3 ounces of beef is more than enough, but for others, six ounces is reasonable, no matter how you cut it, 12 ounces every meal isn't reasonable. This new filling food plan might be something you look at, i haven't studied it enough to discuss it, as core isn't a workable thing for me because i need an outside factor to portion my intake, Lee "doug lerner" wrote in message ... I am re-posting one snippet from my other, longer thread, because I am really curious about this while trying to decide what to do going forward. Basically, I find that journaling and calorie/point limits work and diets without fixed limits don't work - at least for me. I realize that dieting is not "one size fits all." When I tried Weight Watchers Core for a while it didn't seem to work at all. The diet doesn't make sense (to me anyway) because it is too easy to take in too many calories even when following the rules literally and not stuffing yourself. Want an avocado? Sure, it's a vegetable so why not? Still hungry? Have another serving of fish or chicken. Core to me seem like Atkins with (1) more variety but (2) less appetite control because you can eat all those insulin spiking foods like bananas and corn and pineapple and so you never get your cravings under control. And when you reduce the trigger foods from Core you're almost back to Atkins, with maybe less variety... What I am curious about is this: Are there any really obese people (like me) who have ever gotten to a normal BMI goal weight and kept it off just following the Core plan? I am skeptical. I know it is possible with Flex Points, but am skeptical about Core. Thanks, doug |
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Are there successful Core losers out there?
good luck, read every article you can the more you understand the better it
seems to work, Lee "douglerner" wrote in message ... I notice that WW has one of their free online trials again, so I signed up just to see what might have changed, and if they improved from my previous online experience. I notice that they are calling it the "Momentum Plan" now. I've been assigned 37 daily points and 35 weekly points. If the points calculator is still the way it used to be, that comes to approximately 1850 daily calories plus 1750 weekly calories. Did they get rid of Core altogether? There doesn't seem to be a mention of it after signing up for the online plan. Ah, I see. They call it "Simply Filling" and modified the "Core List." doug |
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Are there successful Core losers out there?
and that is why it doesn't work for me, i have a disconect from hungry to
full, the only things i can identify is"so hungry i have the shakes" and "man i ate wayyyy too much" it is much more senseble to eat the core way but it can't be for me, at least not while i am losing, Lee "Willow Herself" wrote in message ... I did Core, very successfully for over 4 years. The point of Core is learning to stop when you are satisfied (not full), so you have to listen to your body hunger signals. That means that you might WANT another serving of fish or chicken, but if you're not hungry anymore, then you can't have it. If works for me, it has also for a lot of people I know. Core foods aren't "free foods"... or magic foods, they still have calories. Will~ "doug lerner" wrote in message ... I am re-posting one snippet from my other, longer thread, because I am really curious about this while trying to decide what to do going forward. Basically, I find that journaling and calorie/point limits work and diets without fixed limits don't work - at least for me. I realize that dieting is not "one size fits all." When I tried Weight Watchers Core for a while it didn't seem to work at all. The diet doesn't make sense (to me anyway) because it is too easy to take in too many calories even when following the rules literally and not stuffing yourself. Want an avocado? Sure, it's a vegetable so why not? Still hungry? Have another serving of fish or chicken. Core to me seem like Atkins with (1) more variety but (2) less appetite control because you can eat all those insulin spiking foods like bananas and corn and pineapple and so you never get your cravings under control. And when you reduce the trigger foods from Core you're almost back to Atkins, with maybe less variety... What I am curious about is this: Are there any really obese people (like me) who have ever gotten to a normal BMI goal weight and kept it off just following the Core plan? I am skeptical. I know it is possible with Flex Points, but am skeptical about Core. Thanks, doug |
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On Apr 6, 10:59*am, "Stormmee" wrote:
This new filling food plan might be something you look at, i haven't studied it enough to discuss it, as core isn't a workable thing for me because i need an outside factor to portion my intake. I need a control factor too I think. I looked over Filling Foods and the food list and the guidelines and to be honest I cannot find a whit of difference from the old "Core" plan. doug |
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Are there successful Core losers out there?
Ron wrote:
"Dee Flint" wrote in message ... "doug lerner" wrote in message ... I am re-posting one snippet from my other, longer thread, because I am really curious about this while trying to decide what to do going forward. Basically, I find that journaling and calorie/point limits work and diets without fixed limits don't work - at least for me. I realize that dieting is not "one size fits all." When I tried Weight Watchers Core for a while it didn't seem to work at all. The diet doesn't make sense (to me anyway) because it is too easy to take in too many calories even when following the rules literally and not stuffing yourself. Want an avocado? Sure, it's a vegetable so why not? Still hungry? Have another serving of fish or chicken. Core to me seem like Atkins with (1) more variety but (2) less appetite control because you can eat all those insulin spiking foods like bananas and corn and pineapple and so you never get your cravings under control. And when you reduce the trigger foods from Core you're almost back to Atkins, with maybe less variety... What I am curious about is this: Are there any really obese people (like me) who have ever gotten to a normal BMI goal weight and kept it off just following the Core plan? I am skeptical. I know it is possible with Flex Points, but am skeptical about Core. Thanks, doug There are success stories on the WW site about successful Core losers. As I read core, there are a number of rules about some of the categories of food. One still has to watch portion size for example. Really paying attention to the satisfaction level is key as well. You have to stop long before stuffed, long before full. You stop at "satisfied", which is basically at the point where you are no longer hungry. Since there is a time delay getting signals to the brain, it's necessary to eat slowly. Core users are advised to "stop and assess" half way through. I.e. stop eating, decide if you are actually still hungry or not, then stop if you are no longer hungry. It has worked for many but takes a different type of mindset. You have to have the strength to avoid emotional eating but eat only for actual physical hunger not emotional hunger. Makes sense. Weight control, like every other worthwhile goal in life, requires discipline, dedication, and right thinking. In other words, a healthy attitude of thinking about food as something we take for sustenance rather than something we lust after for satisfaction. It should NOT involve slavish point-counting and deprivation. The WW members in this NG who constantly post recipes here and dream about what they will eat tomorrow - in other words, who perpetuate their love of food - simply don't understand this fundamental point and will never maintain normal weight naturally. Food is no different from oxygen. We take it to live. We shouldn't live to take it. I disagree with this. I love food. Food is terrific, a gift in our lives. I plan my melas in advance, what you would call dream about what I am eating tomorrow, so that I may have good healthy choces that are a joy to my palate asa well. I also plan ahead so I can be assured that I have meals that sustain my staisfaction as well as conform to my desired calorie intake. There is nothing wrong with enjoying food. Enjoyment is a wonderful thing! There is no superioirity in viewing food as only fuel. If that attitude works for you, rock on. But for those of us who enjoy cooking, food will continue to be a wonderful thing to share with family and friends and to enjoy! |
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