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Misery! - Continuing Adventures of the Hiking Historian



 
 
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Old December 11th, 2006, 05:34 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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SFrunner wrote:
Del Cecchi wrote:

Walking on the flat is said to be 100 cals per mile time weight/140 lb.

So you are 150 cal/mile on flat, and you did 4 miles. that would be 600
cal even on the flat. And this was considerably harder than that. so
1000 is quite plausible.

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100 cals per mile for walking is too high an estimate. I know I walk to
work 1.25 miles every morning at 15 min miles and according to Fitday,
I only burn 57 cals and I weigh more than 140 pounds.

100 cals per mile for running yes, walking, no.

http://www.healthyweightforum.org/en...?action=submit
says 1159 C. for 120 min of a 210 lb person hiking.

The Government says at
http://www.health.gov/dietaryguideli...l/chapter3.htm

that walking at 3.5 mph uses 280 cal/hour or about 80 cal per mile for a
154 lb person. Hiking is slightly higher, at 370 cal/hour.

Sounds like Fitday is low balling.


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Old December 11th, 2006, 06:05 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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Del Cecchi wrote:
SFrunner wrote:
Del Cecchi wrote:

Walking on the flat is said to be 100 cals per mile time weight/140 lb.

So you are 150 cal/mile on flat, and you did 4 miles. that would be 600
cal even on the flat. And this was considerably harder than that. so
1000 is quite plausible.

--
Del Cecchi



100 cals per mile for walking is too high an estimate. I know I walk to
work 1.25 miles every morning at 15 min miles and according to Fitday,
I only burn 57 cals and I weigh more than 140 pounds.

100 cals per mile for running yes, walking, no.

http://www.healthyweightforum.org/en...?action=submit
says 1159 C. for 120 min of a 210 lb person hiking.

The Government says at
http://www.health.gov/dietaryguideli...l/chapter3.htm

that walking at 3.5 mph uses 280 cal/hour or about 80 cal per mile for a
154 lb person. Hiking is slightly higher, at 370 cal/hour.

Sounds like Fitday is low balling.


Yeah, hiking could be higher, true.

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Old December 11th, 2006, 06:16 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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Beverly wrote:
The Historian wrote:
While I have your attention, folks, I have a Fitday question. Are the
suggestions for calories burned considered accurate, or excessively
high? Fitday suggests I burned a thousand calories in my two hours or
so of hiking. Even with all the climbing, that seems high.

Oh, and any advice on sore quads? :-)

Neil
385/276/220


Have you compared the Fitday numbers with www.caloriesperhour.com ?
I've only compared cycling calories and they are very close between the two
sites.

Sorry - no advice for the sore quads except a day or two of rest and then
try it again! Gentle exercise of the sore muscles often helps me.


With that in mind, I walked 2.4 miles this morning. The terrain was
hilly, and although allegedly a "road" only a third of it was paved.
The rest was gravel. Can I include it as a hike? :-)

Neil
385/276/220

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Old December 11th, 2006, 08:26 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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The Historian wrote:
I still have a lot to learn about hiking. I didn't bring enough water,
for one. Also, I was far too heavily dressed for the unseasonably warm
weather. Halfway up the side of Misery I stopped and removed my jacket
and shirt. Fortunately, underneath I was wearing a T-shirt. So in
addition to the beauties of nature, other hikers got to see the
spectacle of a fat middle aged man with the phrase "I am the kid your
parents warned you about" printed on his chest.


LoL! At least it's a fun learning process. :-)

When I was in better shape, I made a 14-hour hike from the foot to the
summit of Mount Diablo and back. What was fascinating was the
temperature difference between the shady/windy side and the sunny/calm
side. A good moisture-wicking shirt and a light jacket made all the
difference. Ahh, good times, wish I was back there again.

http://www.parks.ca.gov/pages/517/im...iabloSP_42.jpg

By the way, I'm at 317. I guess I'm in "maintenance mode" for the
moment. I accidently cut my foot on 12/1 and it became infected. My
doctor asked me to walk as little as possible... I'm seeing her again
today. I plan to ask about alternate exercises like swimming.

335/317/215

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Old December 11th, 2006, 09:41 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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When I was in better shape, I made a 14-hour hike from the foot to the
summit of Mount Diablo and back. What was fascinating was the
temperature difference between the shady/windy side and the sunny/calm
side. A good moisture-wicking shirt and a light jacket made all the
difference. Ahh, good times, wish I was back there again.

http://www.parks.ca.gov/pages/517/im...iabloSP_42.jpg

By the way, I'm at 317. I guess I'm in "maintenance mode" for the
moment. I accidently cut my foot on 12/1 and it became infected. My
doctor asked me to walk as little as possible... I'm seeing her again
today. I plan to ask about alternate exercises like swimming.

335/317/215



I've done that hike before....it's really tough!

I like the backside hike to the falls, which can be seen this time of
year to early summer, and it's not quite so hot. The last time I did
it, I got poison oak, though. Bleh.

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Old December 12th, 2006, 02:18 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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SFrunner wrote:

http://www.parks.ca.gov/pages/517/im...iabloSP_42.jpg


I've done that hike before....it's really tough!

I like the backside hike to the falls, which can be seen this time of
year to early summer, and it's not quite so hot.


Yeah, that's a fun one!

The last time I did it, I got poison oak, though. Bleh


Ouch.

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Old December 12th, 2006, 05:56 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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wrote:
The Historian wrote:
I still have a lot to learn about hiking. I didn't bring enough water,
for one. Also, I was far too heavily dressed for the unseasonably warm
weather. Halfway up the side of Misery I stopped and removed my jacket
and shirt. Fortunately, underneath I was wearing a T-shirt. So in
addition to the beauties of nature, other hikers got to see the
spectacle of a fat middle aged man with the phrase "I am the kid your
parents warned you about" printed on his chest.


LoL! At least it's a fun learning process. :-)


Very tiring, but fun. I'm trying to locate a hiking partner for a
future trip. I think it would be more fun to share the experience.

When I was in better shape, I made a 14-hour hike from the foot to the
summit of Mount Diablo and back. What was fascinating was the
temperature difference between the shady/windy side and the sunny/calm
side. A good moisture-wicking shirt and a light jacket made all the
difference. Ahh, good times, wish I was back there again.

http://www.parks.ca.gov/pages/517/im...iabloSP_42.jpg

By the way, I'm at 317. I guess I'm in "maintenance mode" for the
moment. I accidently cut my foot on 12/1 and it became infected. My
doctor asked me to walk as little as possible... I'm seeing her again
today. I plan to ask about alternate exercises like swimming.

335/317/215


Sorry to read that. I hope you have a swift and full recovery.

Neil
385/276/220

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Old December 12th, 2006, 03:47 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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The Historian wrote:

Very tiring, but fun. I'm trying to locate a hiking partner for a
future trip. I think it would be more fun to share the experience.

Sometimes it is, especially if it's the right partner. I like to go
with my friend Matt, because we get along so well. Other times, it's
great to be out there by myself and listen to all the sounds around me.

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Old December 17th, 2006, 12:08 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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wrote:
The Historian wrote:
I still have a lot to learn about hiking. I didn't bring enough water,
for one. Also, I was far too heavily dressed for the unseasonably warm
weather. Halfway up the side of Misery I stopped and removed my jacket
and shirt. Fortunately, underneath I was wearing a T-shirt. So in
addition to the beauties of nature, other hikers got to see the
spectacle of a fat middle aged man with the phrase "I am the kid your
parents warned you about" printed on his chest.


LoL! At least it's a fun learning process. :-)


The learning has continued this week. I did 2.5 miles, I estimate,
hiking along horse trails near French Creek yesterday. I learned never
to hike along horse trails - damn messy! Today, I'm going back to Mt.
Misery. There's a covered bridge at the end of one of the trails. I
didn't get to it last time, but I will today!

Meanwhile, my weight is down to 275. My goal was 270 by year's end, and
perhaps I can make it. If not, I'll settle for not gaining over the
holidays. Then again, 270 would be a nice gift for my 41st birthday on
January 8.

Sorry to read you are unable to hike presently. I hope you are up and
around soon.

Neil, the Hiking Historian.
385/275/220

 




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