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  #101  
Old August 4th, 2004, 07:11 PM
Sam
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

Rob should have said :


If there were 30 year success stories , this is where I'd find them,
right?



Wrong. People come here to -learn- about low-carb. Most people who lose
their weight and have settled into the diet, especially people who started
more than 10 years ago, probably never even looked for a low-carb group on
the internet.

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what they become by it. - John Ruskin


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  #102  
Old August 4th, 2004, 07:11 PM
Sam
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

Rob should have said :


If there were 30 year success stories , this is where I'd find them,
right?



Wrong. People come here to -learn- about low-carb. Most people who lose
their weight and have settled into the diet, especially people who started
more than 10 years ago, probably never even looked for a low-carb group on
the internet.

--
Sam-I-Am
The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
what they become by it. - John Ruskin


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  #103  
Old August 4th, 2004, 07:13 PM
Roger Zoul
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

tcomeau wrote:
|| Rob wrote in message
|| ...
||| Low carbohydrate diet regimens have been in existence for decades.
||| Dr.
||| Atkins published his first book back in the 70's based on the same
||| concepts as his current book. If these plans worked in the long
||| run,
||| the release of new diet books wouldn't even be necessary. The
||| followers
||| would have actually been capable of maintaining weight loss by
||| eliminating high carbohydrate foods for over 25 years. Their long
||| term
||| weight loss success stories would have spread worldwide as the cure
||| to
||| obesity. Paradoxically, as more and more diets appear, the weight
||| loss
||| industry continues to get richer, and America continues to grow
||| fatter.
||
|| Obesity will only be cured when ALL fat people go on the low-carb
|| diet. While a smaller number of people go low-carb and succeed, most
|| people have bought into the low-fat diet and continue to fail and get
|| fatter.
||
|| The real question is: if low-fat is the way to go, why haven't
|| everyone who went low-fat not lost the weight? It has a 95%-plus
|| failure rate. Studies have shown that we eat 10% less fat and 12%
|| more
|| carbs, that should result in most people losing weight but it hasn't.
|| Obesity has tripled since the 70's.
||
|| Your implying that low-carb has failed because after 30 years atkins'
|| book is still selling is ridiculous.

Of course it is. The guy is an idiot who found a little success for himself
and now thinks he is the LIGHT. Don't we see his type in here ever other
week? He makes for great sniping fodder, however.


  #104  
Old August 4th, 2004, 07:13 PM
Roger Zoul
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

tcomeau wrote:
|| Rob wrote in message
|| ...
||| Low carbohydrate diet regimens have been in existence for decades.
||| Dr.
||| Atkins published his first book back in the 70's based on the same
||| concepts as his current book. If these plans worked in the long
||| run,
||| the release of new diet books wouldn't even be necessary. The
||| followers
||| would have actually been capable of maintaining weight loss by
||| eliminating high carbohydrate foods for over 25 years. Their long
||| term
||| weight loss success stories would have spread worldwide as the cure
||| to
||| obesity. Paradoxically, as more and more diets appear, the weight
||| loss
||| industry continues to get richer, and America continues to grow
||| fatter.
||
|| Obesity will only be cured when ALL fat people go on the low-carb
|| diet. While a smaller number of people go low-carb and succeed, most
|| people have bought into the low-fat diet and continue to fail and get
|| fatter.
||
|| The real question is: if low-fat is the way to go, why haven't
|| everyone who went low-fat not lost the weight? It has a 95%-plus
|| failure rate. Studies have shown that we eat 10% less fat and 12%
|| more
|| carbs, that should result in most people losing weight but it hasn't.
|| Obesity has tripled since the 70's.
||
|| Your implying that low-carb has failed because after 30 years atkins'
|| book is still selling is ridiculous.

Of course it is. The guy is an idiot who found a little success for himself
and now thinks he is the LIGHT. Don't we see his type in here ever other
week? He makes for great sniping fodder, however.


  #105  
Old August 4th, 2004, 07:27 PM
Roger Zoul
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

jbuch wrote:
|| Tony Lew wrote:
||
||| Rob wrote in message
||| ...
|||
|||| Low carbohydrate diet regimens have been in existence for decades.
|||| Dr.
|||| Atkins published his first book back in the 70's based on the same
|||| concepts as his current book. If these plans worked in the long
|||| run,
|||| the release of new diet books wouldn't even be necessary. The
|||| followers
|||| would have actually been capable of maintaining weight loss by
|||| eliminating high carbohydrate foods for over 25 years.
|||
|||
||| But few of them stayed on the diet because the medical establishment
||| convinced them it was dangerous and would kill them by doing a
||| hatchet
||| job on Atkins. They didn't bother to do any studies, they just
||| announced
||| that the diet was sure to send your cholesterol sky high and give
||| you
||| a heart attack. This time, they did do studies, and boy did the
||| results
||| embarass them!
|||
|||
||
|| The book "The New Low Carb Way of Life" by Rob Thompson MD (July
|| 2004) [http://www.newlowcarbway.com} discusses this negative history
|| by the
|| medical community.
||
|| After all, Atkins was flying directly into their incorrect belief
|| that
|| the cholesterol you ate went directly into clogging your
|| arteries......
|| and a bunch of other inaccurate guesses as to how food worked in the
|| body.
||
|| He would be hated and hounded for standing against the leading
|| medical
|| organizations.
||
|| And, he was.
||
|| And he still is.
||
|| This whole discussion thread is a result of that lingering hatred...
|| and
|| ignorance.
||

Amazing hatred and ignorance...so amazing that it must come from a moron.


  #106  
Old August 4th, 2004, 07:27 PM
Roger Zoul
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

jbuch wrote:
|| Tony Lew wrote:
||
||| Rob wrote in message
||| ...
|||
|||| Low carbohydrate diet regimens have been in existence for decades.
|||| Dr.
|||| Atkins published his first book back in the 70's based on the same
|||| concepts as his current book. If these plans worked in the long
|||| run,
|||| the release of new diet books wouldn't even be necessary. The
|||| followers
|||| would have actually been capable of maintaining weight loss by
|||| eliminating high carbohydrate foods for over 25 years.
|||
|||
||| But few of them stayed on the diet because the medical establishment
||| convinced them it was dangerous and would kill them by doing a
||| hatchet
||| job on Atkins. They didn't bother to do any studies, they just
||| announced
||| that the diet was sure to send your cholesterol sky high and give
||| you
||| a heart attack. This time, they did do studies, and boy did the
||| results
||| embarass them!
|||
|||
||
|| The book "The New Low Carb Way of Life" by Rob Thompson MD (July
|| 2004) [http://www.newlowcarbway.com} discusses this negative history
|| by the
|| medical community.
||
|| After all, Atkins was flying directly into their incorrect belief
|| that
|| the cholesterol you ate went directly into clogging your
|| arteries......
|| and a bunch of other inaccurate guesses as to how food worked in the
|| body.
||
|| He would be hated and hounded for standing against the leading
|| medical
|| organizations.
||
|| And, he was.
||
|| And he still is.
||
|| This whole discussion thread is a result of that lingering hatred...
|| and
|| ignorance.
||

Amazing hatred and ignorance...so amazing that it must come from a moron.


  #107  
Old August 4th, 2004, 07:39 PM
Rob
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

Roger Zoul wrote:



Hey moron, where are all the folks you followed your "free establishment
advice" for the last 30 years?

I don't have a chance. I'm all about eating less. What food
manufacturer is going to sponsor such profit cutting advice? They'd
much rather change a label to low fat or low carb and trick people into
believing they can eat all the want.
  #108  
Old August 4th, 2004, 07:39 PM
Rob
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

Roger Zoul wrote:



Hey moron, where are all the folks you followed your "free establishment
advice" for the last 30 years?

I don't have a chance. I'm all about eating less. What food
manufacturer is going to sponsor such profit cutting advice? They'd
much rather change a label to low fat or low carb and trick people into
believing they can eat all the want.
  #109  
Old August 4th, 2004, 08:25 PM
Priscilla Ballou
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

In article ,
"FOB" wrote:

And if they've been doing it successfully for 30 years they hardly need a
support group!

In ,
Priscilla Ballou stated
|
| Well, let's see. The 70s was thirty years ago. I'm guessing that
| most lowcarbers (here at least) are in their 30s-50s. Someone who
| was in their 30s-50s 30 years ago would be in their 60s-80s now.
| What are the chances they'd be hanging out in a Usenet newsgroup?
| Oh, sure we have a few people in that age group, but I think the
| chances are pretty low.


Good point. Unfortunately few people who've succeeded at something come
back to encourage the newbies. I think we've got a few here, though.

Priscilla
  #110  
Old August 4th, 2004, 08:25 PM
Priscilla Ballou
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

In article ,
"FOB" wrote:

And if they've been doing it successfully for 30 years they hardly need a
support group!

In ,
Priscilla Ballou stated
|
| Well, let's see. The 70s was thirty years ago. I'm guessing that
| most lowcarbers (here at least) are in their 30s-50s. Someone who
| was in their 30s-50s 30 years ago would be in their 60s-80s now.
| What are the chances they'd be hanging out in a Usenet newsgroup?
| Oh, sure we have a few people in that age group, but I think the
| chances are pretty low.


Good point. Unfortunately few people who've succeeded at something come
back to encourage the newbies. I think we've got a few here, though.

Priscilla
 




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