Went to a meeting Sat

Thanks Lee,
Tanukiki

"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
good for you, very realistic and honest with yourself, you will do just
fine, Lee
tanukiki wrote in message
news:hww%h.7329$rm.7114@trndny03...
It's been months and I've gained back most of what I lost last year (my
fault because WW works when you follow it and I know that deep down) BUT
I'm
still down a couple of pounds from where I was when I started WW and that
is
about still about 36 pounds lighter than my heaviest before I got
pregnant
with DS#2. I've been on program 2 days and doing pretty well with staying
in
a reasonable range of points (still have 21 flex points left) and have
tracked (written) everything I've been eating.
Tanukiki

I knew you would find your way!

You can soooo do this and we're here for you!!
will~

"tanukiki" wrote in message
news:hww%h.7329$rm.7114@trndny03...
It's been months and I've gained back most of what I lost last year (my
fault because WW works when you follow it and I know that deep down) BUT
I'm still down a couple of pounds from where I was when I started WW and
that is about still about 36 pounds lighter than my heaviest before I got
pregnant with DS#2. I've been on program 2 days and doing pretty well with
staying in a reasonable range of points (still have 21 flex points left)
and have tracked (written) everything I've been eating.
Tanukiki

"This news group is pro-diet"...As you have said we are pro diet...So go
elsewhere...GG
"George" wrote in message
. ..
Diets DO work when you follow them, but following them is the hard part.
That's why, statistically, most diets fail.

Most people naturally love certain foods; they unconsciously rebel against
anything that interferes with satisfying their favorite food cravings. If
this emotional link to the wrong types of food is not broken, life is a
neverending tug-of-war with yo-yo weight and emotional highs and lows.
The only beneficiaries of this lifestyle are the diet program sellers.
Indeed, their bottom line depends on keeping paying members on the books,
an easy thing to do.

The ideal solution to lifelong weight control is eliminating the cravings
for the wrong foods in the first place. Doing so requires mental
discipline at first. Sustained, consistent mental attitude control is one
of the most difficult things a person can undertake; but once it is
mastered, one can achieve his or her goals with little or no additional
conscious effort. Correct behavior becomes a lifestyle, unconsciously
followed, never once departed from.

Truly convince yourself deep down that you do not like the foods that most
contribute to your weight problems. Think of them as poisonous and
injurious to your health. Is this so difficult? Clearly it shouldn't be.
You already know to avoid substances that are widely recognized as
poisons. Mentally put your problem foods into that same category, honestly
believe that to be true, and never waver in your belief. You will then
find that you naturally avoid those foods and that you don't want or miss
them. And you'll never look back at diet programs.

Most normal-weight people don't struggle to maintain their normal weight;
they ARE normal weight because of their own natural, unforced behavior.
(Genes play a part, but the wrong behavior will certainly make anyone
fat.) Proper weight can be maintained by anybody naturally with correct
mental attitude. If you reject this belief, you're unavoidably left with
your present, lifelong attraction to problem foods, constantly struggling
to control your cravings, attendant medical problems like increasing
insulin resistance, and emotional roller coaster rides.

This news group is pro-diet, so you'll find many detractors of this system
here. But look at the postings with an open mind and decide for yourself.
The recurring themes you see here are "oops, I fell off plan again," and
"hey, how do you like this recipe (read: "I love food")?," and "am I
counting points correctly?" and "what should I wear at weigh-in?". The
typical answer to a post such as yours is "awww, that's OK - you'll do
better next time." People who write these things are invested in their
beloved foods, in following a point-counting system rather than
controlling behavior, and in maintaining fellowship with other
WW-followers/sufferers. A lot of them have been struggling with WW for
years and they've been posting here for just as long.

Just imagine the freedom and health that not WANTING harmful foods would
bring!

It's all about sustained mental discipline, which at first can be the most
difficult thing most people have ever attempted. But the rewards of
successfully correcting one's attitudes and behavior toward food are
tremendous and lifelong. Not just in weight control but in all other
areas of life, people who form a clear, unshakable mental image of what
they want and put focused, unwavering effort into realizing their goals,
will always be successful in what they undertake.



"tanukiki" wrote in message
news:hww%h.7329$rm.7114@trndny03...
It's been months and I've gained back most of what I lost last year (my
fault because WW works when you follow it and I know that deep down) BUT
I'm still down a couple of pounds from where I was when I started WW and
that is about still about 36 pounds lighter than my heaviest before I got
pregnant with DS#2. I've been on program 2 days and doing pretty well
with staying in a reasonable range of points (still have 21 flex points
left) and have tracked (written) everything I've been eating.
Tanukiki

"Too scale oriented"...For me I was always avoiding the scale...I find the
weekly weigh in helps to keep me honest about things...I usually know before
I step on what to expect...There are times I am surprised but for the most
part I'm right on...As I continue to work towards goal it has finally become
my friend...I know my scale felt neglected for many years and today we have
a very healthy relationship...GG
"tanukiki" wrote in message
news:JhE%h.4193$83.3329@trndny08...
I don't know if you'll read this as I am not sure you read our replies.
Typically I just delete your posts because of your presentation. Despite
your anti-WW rhetoric hidden in here, you do make some good points about
eating crap. Unfortunately we are not machines that can be re-programmed
what to eat and not eat at the drop of a switch. Also, we have taste buds,
stress, depression, etc. If people could just do this, then WW and others
would not be needed. At least WW tries to teach people to eat in the real
world and not have to buy pre-packaged food. Also, when you are cointing
points and havea limited amount, you learn quickly that crap takes up a lot
more of your points than does healthy foods. The Core plam for WW
emphasizes this even more. I also think reading this ng and the WW boards
are invaluable as you learn to see destructive behaviors and non-helpful
mindsets (i.e.what to wear at weigh-ins). I do think WW is a little too
scale oriented as if you start resistance training, it can slow down your
weight loss but you will be better off in the long run in terms of body
composition and health. Just my 2 cents...
Tanukiki

"George" wrote in message
. ..
Diets DO work when you follow them, but following them is the hard part.
That's why, statistically, most diets fail.

Most people naturally love certain foods; they unconsciously rebel
against anything that interferes with satisfying their favorite food
cravings. If this emotional link to the wrong types of food is not
broken, life is a neverending tug-of-war with yo-yo weight and emotional
highs and lows. The only beneficiaries of this lifestyle are the diet
program sellers. Indeed, their bottom line depends on keeping paying
members on the books, an easy thing to do.

The ideal solution to lifelong weight control is eliminating the cravings
for the wrong foods in the first place. Doing so requires mental
discipline at first. Sustained, consistent mental attitude control is
one of the most difficult things a person can undertake; but once it is
mastered, one can achieve his or her goals with little or no additional
conscious effort. Correct behavior becomes a lifestyle, unconsciously
followed, never once departed from.

Truly convince yourself deep down that you do not like the foods that
most contribute to your weight problems. Think of them as poisonous and
injurious to your health. Is this so difficult? Clearly it shouldn't
be. You already know to avoid substances that are widely recognized as
poisons. Mentally put your problem foods into that same category,
honestly believe that to be true, and never waver in your belief. You
will then find that you naturally avoid those foods and that you don't
want or miss them. And you'll never look back at diet programs.

Most normal-weight people don't struggle to maintain their normal weight;
they ARE normal weight because of their own natural, unforced behavior.
(Genes play a part, but the wrong behavior will certainly make anyone
fat.) Proper weight can be maintained by anybody naturally with correct
mental attitude. If you reject this belief, you're unavoidably left with
your present, lifelong attraction to problem foods, constantly struggling
to control your cravings, attendant medical problems like increasing
insulin resistance, and emotional roller coaster rides.

This news group is pro-diet, so you'll find many detractors of this
system here. But look at the postings with an open mind and decide for
yourself. The recurring themes you see here are "oops, I fell off plan
again," and "hey, how do you like this recipe (read: "I love food")?,"
and "am I counting points correctly?" and "what should I wear at
weigh-in?". The typical answer to a post such as yours is "awww, that's
OK - you'll do better next time." People who write these things are
invested in their beloved foods, in following a point-counting system
rather than controlling behavior, and in maintaining fellowship with
other WW-followers/sufferers. A lot of them have been struggling with WW
for years and they've been posting here for just as long.

Just imagine the freedom and health that not WANTING harmful foods would
bring!

It's all about sustained mental discipline, which at first can be the
most difficult thing most people have ever attempted. But the rewards of
successfully correcting one's attitudes and behavior toward food are
tremendous and lifelong. Not just in weight control but in all other
areas of life, people who form a clear, unshakable mental image of what
they want and put focused, unwavering effort into realizing their goals,
will always be successful in what they undertake.



"tanukiki" wrote in message
news:hww%h.7329$rm.7114@trndny03...
It's been months and I've gained back most of what I lost last year (my
fault because WW works when you follow it and I know that deep down) BUT
I'm still down a couple of pounds from where I was when I started WW and
that is about still about 36 pounds lighter than my heaviest before I
got pregnant with DS#2. I've been on program 2 days and doing pretty
well with staying in a reasonable range of points (still have 21 flex
points left) and have tracked (written) everything I've been eating.
Tanukiki

Completely avoiding the scale is a disaster for me. I use the scale as a
guide but it's still somewhat disheartening to feel that you've done really
well with eating and exercising to not lose weight or gain a little on the
scale when in reality it's temporary water weight from resistance training.
I know it'll go away eventually but sometimes it's hard to remember that all
of the time.
Tanukiki

"Gary G" wrote in message
...
"Too scale oriented"...For me I was always avoiding the scale...I find the
weekly weigh in helps to keep me honest about things...I usually know
before I step on what to expect...There are times I am surprised but for
the most part I'm right on...As I continue to work towards goal it has
finally become my friend...I know my scale felt neglected for many years
and today we have a very healthy relationship...GG

"tanukiki" wrote in message
news:JhE%h.4193$83.3329@trndny08...
I don't know if you'll read this as I am not sure you read our replies.
Typically I just delete your posts because of your presentation. Despite
your anti-WW rhetoric hidden in here, you do make some good points about
eating crap. Unfortunately we are not machines that can be re-programmed
what to eat and not eat at the drop of a switch. Also, we have taste buds,
stress, depression, etc. If people could just do this, then WW and others
would not be needed. At least WW tries to teach people to eat in the real
world and not have to buy pre-packaged food. Also, when you are cointing
points and havea limited amount, you learn quickly that crap takes up a
lot more of your points than does healthy foods. The Core plam for WW
emphasizes this even more. I also think reading this ng and the WW boards
are invaluable as you learn to see destructive behaviors and non-helpful
mindsets (i.e.what to wear at weigh-ins). I do think WW is a little too
scale oriented as if you start resistance training, it can slow down your
weight loss but you will be better off in the long run in terms of body
composition and health. Just my 2 cents...
Tanukiki

"George" wrote in message
. ..
Diets DO work when you follow them, but following them is the hard part.
That's why, statistically, most diets fail.

Most people naturally love certain foods; they unconsciously rebel
against anything that interferes with satisfying their favorite food
cravings. If this emotional link to the wrong types of food is not
broken, life is a neverending tug-of-war with yo-yo weight and emotional
highs and lows. The only beneficiaries of this lifestyle are the diet
program sellers. Indeed, their bottom line depends on keeping paying
members on the books, an easy thing to do.

The ideal solution to lifelong weight control is eliminating the
cravings for the wrong foods in the first place. Doing so requires
mental discipline at first. Sustained, consistent mental attitude
control is one of the most difficult things a person can undertake; but
once it is mastered, one can achieve his or her goals with little or no
additional conscious effort. Correct behavior becomes a lifestyle,
unconsciously followed, never once departed from.

Truly convince yourself deep down that you do not like the foods that
most contribute to your weight problems. Think of them as poisonous and
injurious to your health. Is this so difficult? Clearly it shouldn't
be. You already know to avoid substances that are widely recognized as
poisons. Mentally put your problem foods into that same category,
honestly believe that to be true, and never waver in your belief. You
will then find that you naturally avoid those foods and that you don't
want or miss them. And you'll never look back at diet programs.

Most normal-weight people don't struggle to maintain their normal
weight; they ARE normal weight because of their own natural, unforced
behavior. (Genes play a part, but the wrong behavior will certainly make
anyone fat.) Proper weight can be maintained by anybody naturally with
correct mental attitude. If you reject this belief, you're unavoidably
left with your present, lifelong attraction to problem foods, constantly
struggling to control your cravings, attendant medical problems like
increasing insulin resistance, and emotional roller coaster rides.

This news group is pro-diet, so you'll find many detractors of this
system here. But look at the postings with an open mind and decide for
yourself. The recurring themes you see here are "oops, I fell off plan
again," and "hey, how do you like this recipe (read: "I love food")?,"
and "am I counting points correctly?" and "what should I wear at
weigh-in?". The typical answer to a post such as yours is "awww, that's
OK - you'll do better next time." People who write these things are
invested in their beloved foods, in following a point-counting system
rather than controlling behavior, and in maintaining fellowship with
other WW-followers/sufferers. A lot of them have been struggling with WW
for years and they've been posting here for just as long.

Just imagine the freedom and health that not WANTING harmful foods would
bring!

It's all about sustained mental discipline, which at first can be the
most difficult thing most people have ever attempted. But the rewards
of successfully correcting one's attitudes and behavior toward food are
tremendous and lifelong. Not just in weight control but in all other
areas of life, people who form a clear, unshakable mental image of what
they want and put focused, unwavering effort into realizing their goals,
will always be successful in what they undertake.



"tanukiki" wrote in message
news:hww%h.7329$rm.7114@trndny03...
It's been months and I've gained back most of what I lost last year (my
fault because WW works when you follow it and I know that deep down)
BUT I'm still down a couple of pounds from where I was when I started
WW and that is about still about 36 pounds lighter than my heaviest
before I got pregnant with DS#2. I've been on program 2 days and doing
pretty well with staying in a reasonable range of points (still have 21
flex points left) and have tracked (written) everything I've been
eating.
Tanukiki

Thanks Willow!

"Willow Herself" wrote in
message ...
I knew you would find your way!

You can soooo do this and we're here for you!!
will~

"tanukiki" wrote in message
news:hww%h.7329$rm.7114@trndny03...
It's been months and I've gained back most of what I lost last year (my
fault because WW works when you follow it and I know that deep down) BUT
I'm still down a couple of pounds from where I was when I started WW and
that is about still about 36 pounds lighter than my heaviest before I got
pregnant with DS#2. I've been on program 2 days and doing pretty well
with staying in a reasonable range of points (still have 21 flex points
left) and have tracked (written) everything I've been eating.
Tanukiki