Overweight?

I started a new thread, hope you don't mind. At five eleven and one six
eight pounds I know a lot of people have said that I'm not technically
overweight. But aren't we always being told that these things are relative,
and it's not how you look it's how you feel? Well I feel unhappy. At
college I was a sportsman, amongst other things, talented all-rounder
although not outstanding at anything. Not an ounce of fat, although by no
means a beefcake. I took a 30 inch trouser. I'm still only 24 years old,
but am suddenly a 34 waist, and have spent the last few years drinking too
much. My legs and arms are not fatty, but there's a belly of noteable
proportions and even some chest deposits. This I do not like. I row on a
C2 rower, but think my diet is insufficient and know that I drink too much.
I think, or at least I thought, that weight watchers might be a good way to
ensure I wasn't eating too much and wasn't drinking too much and was eating
a balanced range. I have some slight knee pain based around flat feet and
therefore don't think I should be carrying any more than I have to. Plus
which I'm vein, and don't like being the pot-bellied one on my sports team.
So that's it really. That's why I wanted to loose weight. These things are
personal aren't they, and I feel overweight for the kind of man I profess to
be, even if the charts would say I'm not.

Will.

"Fludge" wrote in message
...
I started a new thread, hope you don't mind. At five eleven and one six
eight pounds I know a lot of people have said that I'm not technically
overweight. But aren't we always being told that these things are
relative,
and it's not how you look it's how you feel? Well I feel unhappy. At
college I was a sportsman, amongst other things, talented all-rounder
although not outstanding at anything. Not an ounce of fat, although by no
means a beefcake. I took a 30 inch trouser. I'm still only 24 years old,
but am suddenly a 34 waist, and have spent the last few years drinking too
much. My legs and arms are not fatty, but there's a belly of noteable
proportions and even some chest deposits. This I do not like. I row on a
C2 rower, but think my diet is insufficient and know that I drink too
much.
I think, or at least I thought, that weight watchers might be a good way
to
ensure I wasn't eating too much and wasn't drinking too much and was
eating
a balanced range. I have some slight knee pain based around flat feet and
therefore don't think I should be carrying any more than I have to. Plus
which I'm vein, and don't like being the pot-bellied one on my sports
team.
So that's it really. That's why I wanted to loose weight. These things
are
personal aren't they, and I feel overweight for the kind of man I profess
to
be, even if the charts would say I'm not.

Will.


OK, no one's physically coming over to your residence and making you do
anything. You don't *have* to justify yourself to me (or anyone else). If
you have a panzone (Spanish word for pot-belly, which I prefer) go ahead and
do something about it! BTW, it's "vain" not "vein", those are what your
blood pumps through. Good luck,

Tonia

"Fludge" wrote in message
...
I started a new thread, hope you don't mind. At five eleven and one six
eight pounds I know a lot of people have said that I'm not technically
overweight. But aren't we always being told that these things are
relative,
and it's not how you look it's how you feel? Well I feel unhappy. At
college I was a sportsman, amongst other things, talented all-rounder
although not outstanding at anything. Not an ounce of fat, although by no
means a beefcake. I took a 30 inch trouser. I'm still only 24 years old,
but am suddenly a 34 waist, and have spent the last few years drinking too
much. My legs and arms are not fatty, but there's a belly of noteable
proportions and even some chest deposits. This I do not like. I row on a
C2 rower, but think my diet is insufficient and know that I drink too
much.
I think, or at least I thought, that weight watchers might be a good way
to
ensure I wasn't eating too much and wasn't drinking too much and was
eating
a balanced range. I have some slight knee pain based around flat feet and
therefore don't think I should be carrying any more than I have to. Plus
which I'm vein, and don't like being the pot-bellied one on my sports
team.
So that's it really. That's why I wanted to loose weight. These things
are
personal aren't they, and I feel overweight for the kind of man I profess
to
be, even if the charts would say I'm not.

Will.

Will,
From your description it sounds like you would benefit more from weight
training than weight loss. I must have missed the other thread so if this
suggestion is redundant I apoligize.

I think you need to talk to somebody about why you are never
satisfied with good conditions.

Fludge wrote:

I started a new thread, hope you don't mind. At five eleven and one six
eight pounds I know a lot of people have said that I'm not technically
overweight. But aren't we always being told that these things are relative,
and it's not how you look it's how you feel? Well I feel unhappy. At
college I was a sportsman, amongst other things, talented all-rounder
although not outstanding at anything. Not an ounce of fat, although by no
means a beefcake. I took a 30 inch trouser. I'm still only 24 years old,
but am suddenly a 34 waist, and have spent the last few years drinking too
much. My legs and arms are not fatty, but there's a belly of noteable
proportions and even some chest deposits. This I do not like. I row on a
C2 rower, but think my diet is insufficient and know that I drink too much.
I think, or at least I thought, that weight watchers might be a good way to
ensure I wasn't eating too much and wasn't drinking too much and was eating
a balanced range. I have some slight knee pain based around flat feet and
therefore don't think I should be carrying any more than I have to. Plus
which I'm vein, and don't like being the pot-bellied one on my sports team.
So that's it really. That's why I wanted to loose weight. These things are
personal aren't they, and I feel overweight for the kind of man I profess to
be, even if the charts would say I'm not.

Will.

"Fludge" wrote in message
...
I started a new thread, hope you don't mind. At five eleven and one six
eight pounds I know a lot of people have said that I'm not technically
overweight. But aren't we always being told that these things are
relative,
and it's not how you look it's how you feel? Well I feel unhappy. At
college I was a sportsman, amongst other things, talented all-rounder
although not outstanding at anything. Not an ounce of fat, although by no
means a beefcake. I took a 30 inch trouser. I'm still only 24 years old,
but am suddenly a 34 waist, and have spent the last few years drinking too
much. My legs and arms are not fatty, but there's a belly of noteable
proportions and even some chest deposits. This I do not like. I row on a
C2 rower, but think my diet is insufficient and know that I drink too
much.
I think, or at least I thought, that weight watchers might be a good way
to
ensure I wasn't eating too much and wasn't drinking too much and was
eating
a balanced range. I have some slight knee pain based around flat feet and
therefore don't think I should be carrying any more than I have to. Plus
which I'm vein, and don't like being the pot-bellied one on my sports
team.
So that's it really. That's why I wanted to loose weight. These things
are
personal aren't they, and I feel overweight for the kind of man I profess
to
be, even if the charts would say I'm not.

Will.



Dear Beefcake Will, (I like that name better than Fludge) :-)

OK, lets get serious. WW may or may not help you. But its a start.
Learnign about diet, nutrition, portion control, and serving sizes is really
more important to you. Also learning your bodies limits is also important.

And I'll say it again - Weight training... DO IT! Its awesome, you'll
enjoy it, and its a hell of a good way to return to a good "beefcake"
status, as well as allow you the indulgence of food and drinks on occassion
and with limitation.

We are here to help and support you.

We are here to help you learn what you need to do.

Basically WW boils down to calorie counting in a more simplified manner.
But like al diets, it has its weak points. I've got a coworker who has
failed on it many times. Why, because she reads that a slice of pizza is
8points. The thing is - that is for a single slice of a small (8"), thin
crust, cheese only pizza. Not a slice from a large supreme thick crust.
Big difference.

You have to be honest with yourself to be successful in losing weight.
Honesty is - alcohol is a calorically expensive food (calorie dense). Not
to mention that the more you drink the more you are likely to eat, and most
people turn to carb and fat dense foods while drinking. So, you end up
packing in a ton of calories in a drinking fest.

But hey - if this only happens 1 night a month or every few months, then ou
can work with it. But if it happens a few times a week, you aren't going to
lose weight.

See - there's so much to discuss, so we will continue this as time goes on.
But the help is here if you are ready.

"Patricia Heil" wrote in message
...



I think you need to talk to somebody about why you are never
satisfied with good conditions.


I think you need to talk to somebody about why you post such idiocracy.

In Patricia Heil wrote:



I think you need to talk to somebody about why you are never
satisfied with good conditions.

WTF is your problem, you top-posting moron? You think he should be
thrilled to have a beer belly? He's not looking for something that's
totally unrealistic for him; he just wants to be more like he was a few
years ago. Just because he's not a big huge lard-ass doesn't mean he
shouldn't strive to improve his physical condition and appearance.


Fludge wrote:

I started a new thread, hope you don't mind. At five eleven and one
six eight pounds I know a lot of people have said that I'm not
technically overweight. But aren't we always being told that these
things are relative, and it's not how you look it's how you feel?
Well I feel unhappy. At college I was a sportsman, amongst other
things, talented all-rounder although not outstanding at anything.
Not an ounce of fat, although by no means a beefcake. I took a 30
inch trouser. I'm still only 24 years old, but am suddenly a 34
waist, and have spent the last few years drinking too much. My legs
and arms are not fatty, but there's a belly of noteable proportions
and even some chest deposits. This I do not like. I row on a C2
rower, but think my diet is insufficient and know that I drink too
much. I think, or at least I thought, that weight watchers might be a
good way to ensure I wasn't eating too much and wasn't drinking too
much and was eating a balanced range. I have some slight knee pain
based around flat feet and therefore don't think I should be carrying
any more than I have to. Plus which I'm vein, and don't like being
the pot-bellied one on my sports team. So that's it really. That's
why I wanted to loose weight. These things are personal aren't they,
and I feel overweight for the kind of man I profess to be, even if
the charts would say I'm not. Will.

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"jayjay" wrote in message ...
"Fludge" wrote in message
...
I started a new thread, hope you don't mind. At five eleven and one six
eight pounds I know a lot of people have said that I'm not technically
overweight. But aren't we always being told that these things are
relative,
and it's not how you look it's how you feel? Well I feel unhappy. At
college I was a sportsman, amongst other things, talented all-rounder
although not outstanding at anything. Not an ounce of fat, although by no
means a beefcake. I took a 30 inch trouser. I'm still only 24 years old,
but am suddenly a 34 waist, and have spent the last few years drinking too
much. My legs and arms are not fatty, but there's a belly of noteable
proportions and even some chest deposits. This I do not like. I row on a
C2 rower, but think my diet is insufficient and know that I drink too
much.
I think, or at least I thought, that weight watchers might be a good way
to
ensure I wasn't eating too much and wasn't drinking too much and was
eating
a balanced range. I have some slight knee pain based around flat feet and
therefore don't think I should be carrying any more than I have to. Plus
which I'm vein, and don't like being the pot-bellied one on my sports
team.
So that's it really. That's why I wanted to loose weight. These things
are
personal aren't they, and I feel overweight for the kind of man I profess
to
be, even if the charts would say I'm not.

Will.



Dear Beefcake Will, (I like that name better than Fludge) :-)

OK, lets get serious. WW may or may not help you. But its a start.
Learnign about diet, nutrition, portion control, and serving sizes is really
more important to you. Also learning your bodies limits is also important.

And I'll say it again - Weight training... DO IT! Its awesome, you'll
enjoy it, and its a hell of a good way to return to a good "beefcake"
status, as well as allow you the indulgence of food and drinks on occassion
and with limitation.

We are here to help and support you.

We are here to help you learn what you need to do.

Basically WW boils down to calorie counting in a more simplified manner.
But like al diets, it has its weak points. I've got a coworker who has
failed on it many times. Why, because she reads that a slice of pizza is
8points. The thing is - that is for a single slice of a small (8"), thin
crust, cheese only pizza. Not a slice from a large supreme thick crust.
Big difference.

You have to be honest with yourself to be successful in losing weight.
Honesty is - alcohol is a calorically expensive food (calorie dense). Not
to mention that the more you drink the more you are likely to eat, and most
people turn to carb and fat dense foods while drinking. So, you end up
packing in a ton of calories in a drinking fest.

But hey - if this only happens 1 night a month or every few months, then ou
can work with it. But if it happens a few times a week, you aren't going to
lose weight.

See - there's so much to discuss, so we will continue this as time goes on.
But the help is here if you are ready.

Dear All

For all Herbal related medicines. Kindly visit
www.HerbalGlobal.com

This site contains the best herbal product in the town with the
maximum discount and gives different sort of special packages.

If you are registered user then this amazing site have special
discounts to offer you.

I must say this site is THE BEST online herbal store I have ever seen.

I also purchase a lot of products from them and I am fully satisfied
with the services that they give to their customers right from order
placement to shipments.

If you love herbal medicine then you must enter in herbal global



"jayjay" wrote in message ...
"Fludge" wrote in message
...
I started a new thread, hope you don't mind. At five eleven and one six
eight pounds I know a lot of people have said that I'm not technically
overweight. But aren't we always being told that these things are
relative,
and it's not how you look it's how you feel? Well I feel unhappy. At
college I was a sportsman, amongst other things, talented all-rounder
although not outstanding at anything. Not an ounce of fat, although by no
means a beefcake. I took a 30 inch trouser. I'm still only 24 years old,
but am suddenly a 34 waist, and have spent the last few years drinking too
much. My legs and arms are not fatty, but there's a belly of noteable
proportions and even some chest deposits. This I do not like. I row on a
C2 rower, but think my diet is insufficient and know that I drink too
much.
I think, or at least I thought, that weight watchers might be a good way
to
ensure I wasn't eating too much and wasn't drinking too much and was
eating
a balanced range. I have some slight knee pain based around flat feet and
therefore don't think I should be carrying any more than I have to. Plus
which I'm vein, and don't like being the pot-bellied one on my sports
team.
So that's it really. That's why I wanted to loose weight. These things
are
personal aren't they, and I feel overweight for the kind of man I profess
to
be, even if the charts would say I'm not.

Will.



Dear Beefcake Will, (I like that name better than Fludge) :-)

OK, lets get serious. WW may or may not help you. But its a start.
Learnign about diet, nutrition, portion control, and serving sizes is really
more important to you. Also learning your bodies limits is also important.

And I'll say it again - Weight training... DO IT! Its awesome, you'll
enjoy it, and its a hell of a good way to return to a good "beefcake"
status, as well as allow you the indulgence of food and drinks on occassion
and with limitation.

We are here to help and support you.

We are here to help you learn what you need to do.

Basically WW boils down to calorie counting in a more simplified manner.
But like al diets, it has its weak points. I've got a coworker who has
failed on it many times. Why, because she reads that a slice of pizza is
8points. The thing is - that is for a single slice of a small (8"), thin
crust, cheese only pizza. Not a slice from a large supreme thick crust.
Big difference.

You have to be honest with yourself to be successful in losing weight.
Honesty is - alcohol is a calorically expensive food (calorie dense). Not
to mention that the more you drink the more you are likely to eat, and most
people turn to carb and fat dense foods while drinking. So, you end up
packing in a ton of calories in a drinking fest.

But hey - if this only happens 1 night a month or every few months, then ou
can work with it. But if it happens a few times a week, you aren't going to
lose weight.

See - there's so much to discuss, so we will continue this as time goes on.
But the help is here if you are ready.