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Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
On Feb 1, 3:37 pm, "Caleb" wrote:
This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in the last week. Thanks. |
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Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
On Feb 2, 9:30 pm, "
wrote: On Feb 1, 3:37 pm, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in the last week. Thanks. Please don't. If you want to really know, Google his posts from past years. It's always the same and some of us are sick and tired of the BS. |
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Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
"Caleb" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 2, 6:30 pm, "teachrmama" wrote: "Caleb" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote: "janice" wrote in message . .. On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and how much you regained from day 101 onwards? janice So it is him! Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my progress. I guess one of my points is that it simply is not that difficult or complicated to take the weight off. There is no need for people suffer emotional turmoil, self-doubt, etc. If they follow a sensible dietary approach over time, they WILL lose weight. Nothing rocket science about it. However, following a sensible approach over time is not easy. I've done it before (quite simply) and I'll do it again this time -- hope it's the last time -- but regardless, it's just not that tough to do. I sure am a hell of a lot healthier than when I first started this approach in '99. I am alive, am far more physically fit, etc., etc. Couple of points for people to remember: There's a lot of bad advice out there competing for their attention. It all does break down to calories in versus calories used up. Weighing regularly is probably essential for most people. (I have a simple balance beam system that I have found very helpful since '99 that you can read about if you search "indicator" "caleb" "balance beam" on Google.) Recording calories -- or at least insuring that what you eat adheres to your dietary goals -- is important. Regular exercise is important, although the recent research from Pennington (Ravussin et al) shows that exercise is not a panacea and that some of the vaunted effects of exercise (e.g., muscle speeding up metabolism) are not supported by current data. Most important is just to keep at it -- put your nose down and just keep plugging along. For every one who unreasonably assails you, you might imagine their face at a trough, wonder exactly what their weight loss history is (is there a weight-loss wing of the Mayo Clinic in their name?), etc. As Rosie used to say, "Your mileage may vary!" And certainly it is true that there are different strokes for different folks. To repeat, weight-loss is not rocket science but it still is not easy. Too bad we can't be like a horse in blinders that continually plows a road in a field, undistracted by harmful or inconsequential things. But, Caleb, are you really losing weight the first 100 days of every year, and regaining it during the rest of the year? That sounds like yoyo dieting, and that isn't terribly good for you, is it? Since you ask seriously -- I don't think I've lost significant amounts of weight for about 2 years or perhaps more. So it seems to me about time to get in harness again. I remember attending a conference up in Seattle in the early 90s and the presenter (it was on weight and exercise) noted how hugely people's diets varied calorically. Great big swings, with some days being several thousand and the next day being twice that. Eating consistently and healthily turns out to be quite difficult for most Americans, especially in this culture that makes snacks, large portions, a variety of foods, etc., more available. As to so called "yo-yo" dieting, one of the myths I guess I'd like to put to rest is that it's difficult to lose weight if one has done it before. There has been (certainly for me, and also the diet literature shows it as well) no increased difficulty in losing weight because I had done it before. There have been a variety of studies on weight- cycling and there appears to be no clear consensus of the downside. However, there is fairly clear agreement on what the downside of remaining overweight and out of shape is. (Also, should there be a doorman at WW who will not let you enter if you have several times regained the weight you lost? If that happened, I think not too many people who had a genuine weight problem would be permitted in.) Also, given a choice between losing some weight or getting some exercise (if one had to pick one or the other), some studies indicate that losing weight is probably more important. Weight loss is the difference between life or death for many people. And it sure can make a huge difference emotionally, socially, vocationally, etc. Mondale said in his run against Reagan: "It's not what we don't know that's going to get us. It's what we know that just ain't so." (I think he was quoting Will Rogers but am not sure.) And within the world of dieting, there are many statements made with the feel of utter certainty that turn out in the long run to be dubious. Actually, I don't agree with his politics but I think Michael Fumento's "Fat of the Land" is a pretty good look at some of the important variables in dieting. I'm pretty happy with the weight loss program I'm on now. Doesn't cost me anything. I feel comfortable knowing that I'm improving my physical status, that my clothes are getting looser, that I'll be able to carry a backpack longer distances, etc. I sure don't gnash my teeth and dwell on my failing. Life is short -- or, as my daughter once said, it's not that life is short -- it's that death is long. I'd rather be healthy than not. And if what I'm doing helps motivate others to lose weight in their own way, then that's to the good. Anyway, thanks for asking! I sure hope your program is going well! What kind of program are you on? Actually, I'm not on a "program." Last May 12 my doctor informed me that my blood pressure was at stroke level and that I would not live to see my children grow up if I did not get it under control--which included taking off some weight. I have lost 80 pounds since then with a combination of eating sensibly and eating the right foods--not a special program, but a new way of eating and way of life. I'm never going to go back to the way I ate before--or eat for the reasons I ate. It really is a new way of life. I also exercise--walk (rapidly, 4+ mph), go to Curves, and swim when the pool is open. I swam all summer, but the pool closed in October. I am waiting impatiently for it to reopen. The grocery store is 1/2 mile from my home, the bank and library are 1 mile, the drug stor a bit forther, and I walk to all of them whenever I can. I also ride my recumbent exercise cycle at home, and run in 5K races--I've placed 2nd in my age group twice! And I make time for ME. This is the hardest part. But I finally really did have to learn to say no. I figure I need to lose about 30 more pounds--although someone told me today that they didn't think I should lose any more weight. That was nice to hear. |
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Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
"Caleb" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote: "janice" wrote in message ... On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and how much you regained from day 101 onwards? janice So it is him! Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my progress. How can you so cheerfully admit that you are back for the umpteenth time doing the exact same diet approach that you have done before, and obviously it hasn't been successful, or why would you be doing it again? Please keep your crap in alt.support.diet.low-calorie. At least that way it is contained. |
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Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
On Feb 2, 11:27 pm, "teachrmama" wrote:
"Caleb" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 2, 6:30 pm, "teachrmama" wrote: "Caleb" wrote in message groups.com... On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote: "janice" wrote in message . .. On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and how much you regained from day 101 onwards? janice So it is him! Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my progress. I guess one of my points is that it simply is not that difficult or complicated to take the weight off. There is no need for people suffer emotional turmoil, self-doubt, etc. If they follow a sensible dietary approach over time, they WILL lose weight. Nothing rocket science about it. However, following a sensible approach over time is not easy. I've done it before (quite simply) and I'll do it again this time -- hope it's the last time -- but regardless, it's just not that tough to do. I sure am a hell of a lot healthier than when I first started this approach in '99. I am alive, am far more physically fit, etc., etc. Couple of points for people to remember: There's a lot of bad advice out there competing for their attention. It all does break down to calories in versus calories used up. Weighing regularly is probably essential for most people. (I have a simple balance beam system that I have found very helpful since '99 that you can read about if you search "indicator" "caleb" "balance beam" on Google.) Recording calories -- or at least insuring that what you eat adheres to your dietary goals -- is important. Regular exercise is important, although the recent research from Pennington (Ravussin et al) shows that exercise is not a panacea and that some of the vaunted effects of exercise (e.g., muscle speeding up metabolism) are not supported by current data. Most important is just to keep at it -- put your nose down and just keep plugging along. For every one who unreasonably assails you, you might imagine their face at a trough, wonder exactly what their weight loss history is (is there a weight-loss wing of the Mayo Clinic in their name?), etc. As Rosie used to say, "Your mileage may vary!" And certainly it is true that there are different strokes for different folks. To repeat, weight-loss is not rocket science but it still is not easy. Too bad we can't be like a horse in blinders that continually plows a road in a field, undistracted by harmful or inconsequential things. But, Caleb, are you really losing weight the first 100 days of every year, and regaining it during the rest of the year? That sounds like yoyo dieting, and that isn't terribly good for you, is it? Since you ask seriously -- I don't think I've lost significant amounts of weight for about 2 years or perhaps more. So it seems to me about time to get in harness again. I remember attending a conference up in Seattle in the early 90s and the presenter (it was on weight and exercise) noted how hugely people's diets varied calorically. Great big swings, with some days being several thousand and the next day being twice that. Eating consistently and healthily turns out to be quite difficult for most Americans, especially in this culture that makes snacks, large portions, a variety of foods, etc., more available. As to so called "yo-yo" dieting, one of the myths I guess I'd like to put to rest is that it's difficult to lose weight if one has done it before. There has been (certainly for me, and also the diet literature shows it as well) no increased difficulty in losing weight because I had done it before. There have been a variety of studies on weight- cycling and there appears to be no clear consensus of the downside. However, there is fairly clear agreement on what the downside of remaining overweight and out of shape is. (Also, should there be a doorman at WW who will not let you enter if you have several times regained the weight you lost? If that happened, I think not too many people who had a genuine weight problem would be permitted in.) Also, given a choice between losing some weight or getting some exercise (if one had to pick one or the other), some studies indicate that losing weight is probably more important. Weight loss is the difference between life or death for many people. And it sure can make a huge difference emotionally, socially, vocationally, etc. Mondale said in his run against Reagan: "It's not what we don't know that's going to get us. It's what we know that just ain't so." (I think he was quoting Will Rogers but am not sure.) And within the world of dieting, there are many statements made with the feel of utter certainty that turn out in the long run to be dubious. Actually, I don't agree with his politics but I think Michael Fumento's "Fat of the Land" is a pretty good look at some of the important variables in dieting. I'm pretty happy with the weight loss program I'm on now. Doesn't cost me anything. I feel comfortable knowing that I'm improving my physical status, that my clothes are getting looser, that I'll be able to carry a backpack longer distances, etc. I sure don't gnash my teeth and dwell on my failing. Life is short -- or, as my daughter once said, it's not that life is short -- it's that death is long. I'd rather be healthy than not. And if what I'm doing helps motivate others to lose weight in their own way, then that's to the good. Anyway, thanks for asking! I sure hope your program is going well! What kind of program are you on? Actually, I'm not on a "program." Last May 12 my doctor informed me that my blood pressure was at stroke level and that I would not live to see my children grow up if I did not get it under control--which included taking off some weight. I have lost 80 pounds since then with a combination of eating sensibly and eating the right foods--not a special program, but a new way of eating and way of life. I'm never going to go back to the way I ate before--or eat for the reasons I ate. It really is a new way of life. I also exercise--walk (rapidly, 4+ mph), go to Curves, and swim when the pool is open. I swam all summer, but the pool closed in October. I am waiting impatiently for it to reopen. The grocery store is 1/2 mile from my home, the bank and library are 1 mile, the drug stor a bit forther, and I walk to all of them whenever I can. I also ride my recumbent exercise cycle at home, and run in 5K races--I've placed 2nd in my age group twice! And I make time for ME. This is the hardest part. But I finally really did have to learn to say no. I figure I need to lose about 30 more pounds--although someone told me today that they didn't think I should lose any more weight. That was nice to hear. Teachrmama -- GREAT FOR YOU!!! Super impressive! Excellent progress! I'm sure all of your helath signs are positive! Yours truly, Caleb |
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Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
On Feb 2, 11:27 pm, "teachrmama" wrote:
"Caleb" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 2, 6:30 pm, "teachrmama" wrote: "Caleb" wrote in message groups.com... On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote: "janice" wrote in message . .. On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and how much you regained from day 101 onwards? janice So it is him! Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my progress. I guess one of my points is that it simply is not that difficult or complicated to take the weight off. There is no need for people suffer emotional turmoil, self-doubt, etc. If they follow a sensible dietary approach over time, they WILL lose weight. Nothing rocket science about it. However, following a sensible approach over time is not easy. I've done it before (quite simply) and I'll do it again this time -- hope it's the last time -- but regardless, it's just not that tough to do. I sure am a hell of a lot healthier than when I first started this approach in '99. I am alive, am far more physically fit, etc., etc. Couple of points for people to remember: There's a lot of bad advice out there competing for their attention. It all does break down to calories in versus calories used up. Weighing regularly is probably essential for most people. (I have a simple balance beam system that I have found very helpful since '99 that you can read about if you search "indicator" "caleb" "balance beam" on Google.) Recording calories -- or at least insuring that what you eat adheres to your dietary goals -- is important. Regular exercise is important, although the recent research from Pennington (Ravussin et al) shows that exercise is not a panacea and that some of the vaunted effects of exercise (e.g., muscle speeding up metabolism) are not supported by current data. Most important is just to keep at it -- put your nose down and just keep plugging along. For every one who unreasonably assails you, you might imagine their face at a trough, wonder exactly what their weight loss history is (is there a weight-loss wing of the Mayo Clinic in their name?), etc. As Rosie used to say, "Your mileage may vary!" And certainly it is true that there are different strokes for different folks. To repeat, weight-loss is not rocket science but it still is not easy. Too bad we can't be like a horse in blinders that continually plows a road in a field, undistracted by harmful or inconsequential things. But, Caleb, are you really losing weight the first 100 days of every year, and regaining it during the rest of the year? That sounds like yoyo dieting, and that isn't terribly good for you, is it? Since you ask seriously -- I don't think I've lost significant amounts of weight for about 2 years or perhaps more. So it seems to me about time to get in harness again. I remember attending a conference up in Seattle in the early 90s and the presenter (it was on weight and exercise) noted how hugely people's diets varied calorically. Great big swings, with some days being several thousand and the next day being twice that. Eating consistently and healthily turns out to be quite difficult for most Americans, especially in this culture that makes snacks, large portions, a variety of foods, etc., more available. As to so called "yo-yo" dieting, one of the myths I guess I'd like to put to rest is that it's difficult to lose weight if one has done it before. There has been (certainly for me, and also the diet literature shows it as well) no increased difficulty in losing weight because I had done it before. There have been a variety of studies on weight- cycling and there appears to be no clear consensus of the downside. However, there is fairly clear agreement on what the downside of remaining overweight and out of shape is. (Also, should there be a doorman at WW who will not let you enter if you have several times regained the weight you lost? If that happened, I think not too many people who had a genuine weight problem would be permitted in.) Also, given a choice between losing some weight or getting some exercise (if one had to pick one or the other), some studies indicate that losing weight is probably more important. Weight loss is the difference between life or death for many people. And it sure can make a huge difference emotionally, socially, vocationally, etc. Mondale said in his run against Reagan: "It's not what we don't know that's going to get us. It's what we know that just ain't so." (I think he was quoting Will Rogers but am not sure.) And within the world of dieting, there are many statements made with the feel of utter certainty that turn out in the long run to be dubious. Actually, I don't agree with his politics but I think Michael Fumento's "Fat of the Land" is a pretty good look at some of the important variables in dieting. I'm pretty happy with the weight loss program I'm on now. Doesn't cost me anything. I feel comfortable knowing that I'm improving my physical status, that my clothes are getting looser, that I'll be able to carry a backpack longer distances, etc. I sure don't gnash my teeth and dwell on my failing. Life is short -- or, as my daughter once said, it's not that life is short -- it's that death is long. I'd rather be healthy than not. And if what I'm doing helps motivate others to lose weight in their own way, then that's to the good. Anyway, thanks for asking! I sure hope your program is going well! What kind of program are you on? Actually, I'm not on a "program." Last May 12 my doctor informed me that my blood pressure was at stroke level and that I would not live to see my children grow up if I did not get it under control--which included taking off some weight. I have lost 80 pounds since then with a combination of eating sensibly and eating the right foods--not a special program, but a new way of eating and way of life. I'm never going to go back to the way I ate before--or eat for the reasons I ate. It really is a new way of life. I also exercise--walk (rapidly, 4+ mph), go to Curves, and swim when the pool is open. I swam all summer, but the pool closed in October. I am waiting impatiently for it to reopen. The grocery store is 1/2 mile from my home, the bank and library are 1 mile, the drug stor a bit forther, and I walk to all of them whenever I can. I also ride my recumbent exercise cycle at home, and run in 5K races--I've placed 2nd in my age group twice! And I make time for ME. This is the hardest part. But I finally really did have to learn to say no. I figure I need to lose about 30 more pounds--although someone told me today that they didn't think I should lose any more weight. That was nice to hear. Mike -- I guess it's been about 1200 to 1500 calories. I have days of slightly less and days of somewhat more. The following chart has been motivational to me. Not only does it suggest that I go for a lower calorie intake, it also shows that even if I take in significantly more calories than I am now doing, I will still lose a substantial amount of weight over time. Here it is, and it's based on being male (so about 13 calories per pound of body weight -- for women, it would probably be about 11 calories per pound) and weighing about 240 pounds (actually I weigh slightly more than 240). Estimate Weight Loss in a 30-Day Month, 100 Days Based on 240 pounds, not including exercise. Day's Pounds Lost Month 100 Day Calories Today Lost Equiv Lost Equiv 0 0.9 26.74 89.14 500 0.7 22.46 74.86 600 0.7 21.60 72.00 700 0.7 20.74 69.14 800 0.7 19.89 66.29 900 0.6 19.03 63.43 1000 0.6 18.17 60.57 1100 0.6 17.31 57.71 1200 0.5 16.46 54.86 1300 0.5 15.60 52.00 1400 0.5 14.74 49.14 1500 0.5 13.89 46.29 1600 0.4 13.03 43.43 1700 0.4 12.17 40.57 1800 0.4 11.31 37.71 1900 0.3 10.46 34.86 2000 0.3 9.60 32.00 3000 0.0 1.03 3.43 What the above chart says to me is that at the end of the day, if I take in 1200 calories at this point in my weight loss, I will lose (before exercise is factored in) .5 pounds a day, 16.46 pounds in a 30 day month, and about 55 pounds over a 100 day period. Taking in 1000 calories will result in a loss trend for me over 100 days of 61 pounds or so -- but I probably will lose less because my weight will have shifted down and it will be harder to lose the remaining weight. Calories in versus calories out. Hope this is of interest. Yours, Caleb |
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Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
On Feb 3, 8:18 am, "determined" wrote:
"Caleb" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote: "janice" wrote in message . .. On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and how much you regained from day 101 onwards? janice So it is him! Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my progress. How can you so cheerfully admit that you are back for the umpteenth time doing the exact same diet approach that you have done before, and obviously it hasn't been successful, or why would you be doing it again? Please keep your crap in alt.support.diet.low-calorie. At least that way it is contained. I'm sorry -- did somebody die and make you God while I was asleep? You don't have a block sender button on your system? Caleb |
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On Feb 2, 9:56 pm, "SFrunner" wrote:
On Feb 2, 9:30 pm, " wrote: On Feb 1, 3:37 pm, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in the last week. Thanks. Please don't. If you want to really know, Google his posts from past years. It's always the same and some of us are sick and tired of the BS. SFRunner -- May I suggest you use your block sender button if you don't like my posts? This "some of us are sick and tired" sounds quite childish and makes use of a logical fallacy called "the band wagon effect." Seems to me that some people are very, very quick to criticize others. Caleb |
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"Caleb" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 9:56 pm, "SFrunner" wrote: On Feb 2, 9:30 pm, " wrote: On Feb 1, 3:37 pm, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in the last week. Thanks. Please don't. If you want to really know, Google his posts from past years. It's always the same and some of us are sick and tired of the BS. SFRunner -- May I suggest you use your block sender button if you don't like my posts? This "some of us are sick and tired" sounds quite childish and makes use of a logical fallacy called "the band wagon effect." Seems to me that some people are very, very quick to criticize others. Caleb Oh bull****, Caleb. Seriously, and I thought you were an educated adult. We criticize because we KNOW your history. Did you hope no one would remember you? The thought that you could go on this ridiculous 100 day diet for like the 8th time in so many years, to lose the same lbs that you've been trying to lose the whole time, and no one is going to say anything negative is just pure ignorance. So please, go away. We won't killfile you, we'll continue to voice our opinions, which we are entitled to do. |
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"teachrmama" wrote in message ... Teachrmama - if you are truely interested in a dialog with this poster, please take it to Alt.support.diet.low-calorie You will find very little support of this poster in here |
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