Question....

Supplements don't work as well as food for some nutrients like anti-oxidants
and fiber.
VLCDs may result in too few carbs and reduced serotonin, leading to
depression.

Food isn't everything. You have to exercise to be healthy.

"LucaBG" wrote in message
...
I can't beleive that all u in usa are still fighting over weight without
knowing the cheapest & easyer mean ....
all that are doing a low calories diet ....
if u r following a 1000 or 1500 Kcal a day u'll stop loosing weight when
ur
body will keep the same amount of calories regime .... & then ????
so keep supplement that let u eat low calories but hig nutrient value
.....is the solution to not let ur body stop methabolism .....
"Kasey" ha scritto nel messaggio
om...
Greetings and welcome.



I am thinking of getting The Gazelle machine ( the one that Tony
Little
advertises)

Check your local newspaper or Pennysaver - plenty of people probably
have the machine gathering dust in their homes or garages.

But it's foolish to buy exercise equipment without trying it to see if
you can do the movements required. Go with a friend, or get a free
visit, to a local gym and try out different machines.

Or is there any comments about Weight
Watchers vs. other plans?

alt.support.diet.weigh****chers


Need to lose around 50-75 pounds, I am a 51 year old female, retired
and
very lazy

It can be done. I am your age (turned 52 in June), female, retired in
2002 and started new job 5 weeks later.

I have lost more than 100 pounds since October. I use fitday.com to
count calories (1,500 calories avg daily) and I exercise for at least
an hour most days.

I am so not motivated - but I am thinking this is the place TO get
motivated - correct???

As others have said, motivation can only come from you. What motivates
one person means nothing to someone else.

I am motivated by a desire to improve my health and quality of life.

As always, YMMV.

Kasey
365/253/???

Supplements don't work as well as food for some nutrients like anti-oxidants
and fiber.
VLCDs may result in too few carbs and reduced serotonin, leading to
depression.

Food isn't everything. You have to exercise to be healthy.

"LucaBG" wrote in message
...
I can't beleive that all u in usa are still fighting over weight without
knowing the cheapest & easyer mean ....
all that are doing a low calories diet ....
if u r following a 1000 or 1500 Kcal a day u'll stop loosing weight when
ur
body will keep the same amount of calories regime .... & then ????
so keep supplement that let u eat low calories but hig nutrient value
.....is the solution to not let ur body stop methabolism .....
"Kasey" ha scritto nel messaggio
om...
Greetings and welcome.



I am thinking of getting The Gazelle machine ( the one that Tony
Little
advertises)

Check your local newspaper or Pennysaver - plenty of people probably
have the machine gathering dust in their homes or garages.

But it's foolish to buy exercise equipment without trying it to see if
you can do the movements required. Go with a friend, or get a free
visit, to a local gym and try out different machines.

Or is there any comments about Weight
Watchers vs. other plans?

alt.support.diet.weigh****chers


Need to lose around 50-75 pounds, I am a 51 year old female, retired
and
very lazy

It can be done. I am your age (turned 52 in June), female, retired in
2002 and started new job 5 weeks later.

I have lost more than 100 pounds since October. I use fitday.com to
count calories (1,500 calories avg daily) and I exercise for at least
an hour most days.

I am so not motivated - but I am thinking this is the place TO get
motivated - correct???

As others have said, motivation can only come from you. What motivates
one person means nothing to someone else.

I am motivated by a desire to improve my health and quality of life.

As always, YMMV.

Kasey
365/253/???

"JMA" wrote in message
...
I had a Gazelle and just recently gave it away. I used it for all of a
few
weeks and realized it was a waste of time and too much stress on the hips.

Save your money and take a walk - seriously.

Yup, exactly... Walking remains *the* best way to exercise... Most other
exercises *try* to be friendly to your body and not hurt it. On the other
hand, your body was *built* around the process of walking during the eons of
evolution...

Reddaway, if you're really serious about losing weight, you have to
understand that *everything* you need to do it is available for free right
inside yourself. You have legs to walk, and that's all the aerobic exercise
you need for now. Besides, walking is fun, it actually takes you from place
to place, lets you visit people and all. Isn't that more interresting that
sweating on a machine in the basement? You have body weight to push around
and lift, and legs and arms, and that's all you need to build muscles. You
have a brain that is able to monitor your fat stores, your caloric intake
and your current needs more reliably than any scale or abacus... Real slim
people do not buy expensive machines to stay slim, they just put energy into
whatever they do and eat less...

You seem to want external solutions to your own problem. You want to lose
weight, but you need an expensive machine to do that (and when you have it,
it won't be good enough, and you will need to wait for another one to being
to lose weight). You don't need anything to get out of the couch and
exercise, except actually doing it... You also want a plan to tell you how
and what to eat (weight watcher is a very monitored process), as if you are
not confident you can simply reduce the total amount of what you eat. And
no, it's not the place to get motivation, motivation can only come from
within. However, this is a place to get advice, hints, what-not-to-do,
explanations...
If you really feel you need "motivation", maybe what you actually need a
coach or something like this. Again, that's not something you can find on
the Internet, you do need a face to face relationship for this kind of think
to work. However, you can find opinions on what kind of coach worked for
various people. For me, it was a no-diet nutritionist with a heavy
psychological training (cognitive and behavioural mainly). I tend to think
any psycho-sth who is familliar with obesity and eating disorder should be
able to help (on the other hand, I would avoid like hell those who do not
understand obesity related problems, they're just clueless). I would also
avoid gym trainers, who weirdly enough, are often clueless about what
obesity really is. But I guess people here have other opinions on this

Sorry if I did sound harsher than I wanted... But total dependance on the
external world to accomplish something like a diet is a path best not
taken...

"JMA" wrote in message
...
I had a Gazelle and just recently gave it away. I used it for all of a
few
weeks and realized it was a waste of time and too much stress on the hips.

Save your money and take a walk - seriously.

Yup, exactly... Walking remains *the* best way to exercise... Most other
exercises *try* to be friendly to your body and not hurt it. On the other
hand, your body was *built* around the process of walking during the eons of
evolution...

Reddaway, if you're really serious about losing weight, you have to
understand that *everything* you need to do it is available for free right
inside yourself. You have legs to walk, and that's all the aerobic exercise
you need for now. Besides, walking is fun, it actually takes you from place
to place, lets you visit people and all. Isn't that more interresting that
sweating on a machine in the basement? You have body weight to push around
and lift, and legs and arms, and that's all you need to build muscles. You
have a brain that is able to monitor your fat stores, your caloric intake
and your current needs more reliably than any scale or abacus... Real slim
people do not buy expensive machines to stay slim, they just put energy into
whatever they do and eat less...

You seem to want external solutions to your own problem. You want to lose
weight, but you need an expensive machine to do that (and when you have it,
it won't be good enough, and you will need to wait for another one to being
to lose weight). You don't need anything to get out of the couch and
exercise, except actually doing it... You also want a plan to tell you how
and what to eat (weight watcher is a very monitored process), as if you are
not confident you can simply reduce the total amount of what you eat. And
no, it's not the place to get motivation, motivation can only come from
within. However, this is a place to get advice, hints, what-not-to-do,
explanations...
If you really feel you need "motivation", maybe what you actually need a
coach or something like this. Again, that's not something you can find on
the Internet, you do need a face to face relationship for this kind of think
to work. However, you can find opinions on what kind of coach worked for
various people. For me, it was a no-diet nutritionist with a heavy
psychological training (cognitive and behavioural mainly). I tend to think
any psycho-sth who is familliar with obesity and eating disorder should be
able to help (on the other hand, I would avoid like hell those who do not
understand obesity related problems, they're just clueless). I would also
avoid gym trainers, who weirdly enough, are often clueless about what
obesity really is. But I guess people here have other opinions on this

Sorry if I did sound harsher than I wanted... But total dependance on the
external world to accomplish something like a diet is a path best not
taken...

Think about this plz ....
if u want use working out to loose weight remeber that u need 20 min minum
to reach the aerobic condition accordigly burn fat .... so works !!
drink 2 lt of water cut calories without cutting basic nutrints for ur body
..... if u find the system to cut calories without cutting oligoelements
vitaines & go on .... u won't let ur methabolism going slowly & u'll solve
the problem for ever ....
hugs from italy luca
"Reddaway" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
I need to lose weight - B A D
I need to get out of the bed & off the couch and start exercising!
I am thinking of getting The Gazelle machine ( the one that Tony Little
advertises)
Also starting Weight Watchers

Anyone out there using this machine? Or is there any comments about
Weight
Watchers vs. other plans?

Need to lose around 50-75 pounds, I am a 51 year old female, retired and
very lazy

Any comments will be sooooooooooooooo appreciated! Especially about the
exercise machine - THANKS!
I am so not motivated - but I am thinking this is the place TO get
motivated - correct???

--

Think about this plz ....
if u want use working out to loose weight remeber that u need 20 min minum
to reach the aerobic condition accordigly burn fat .... so works !!
drink 2 lt of water cut calories without cutting basic nutrints for ur body
..... if u find the system to cut calories without cutting oligoelements
vitaines & go on .... u won't let ur methabolism going slowly & u'll solve
the problem for ever ....
hugs from italy luca
"Reddaway" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
I need to lose weight - B A D
I need to get out of the bed & off the couch and start exercising!
I am thinking of getting The Gazelle machine ( the one that Tony Little
advertises)
Also starting Weight Watchers

Anyone out there using this machine? Or is there any comments about
Weight
Watchers vs. other plans?

Need to lose around 50-75 pounds, I am a 51 year old female, retired and
very lazy

Any comments will be sooooooooooooooo appreciated! Especially about the
exercise machine - THANKS!
I am so not motivated - but I am thinking this is the place TO get
motivated - correct???

--

Think about this plz ....
if u want use working out to loose weight remeber that u need 20 min minum
to reach the aerobic condition accordigly burn fat .... so works !!
drink 2 lt of water cut calories without cutting basic nutrints for ur body
..... if u find the system to cut calories without cutting oligoelements
vitaines & go on .... u won't let ur methabolism going slowly & u'll solve
the problem for ever ....
hugs from italy luca
"Reddaway" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
I need to lose weight - B A D
I need to get out of the bed & off the couch and start exercising!
I am thinking of getting The Gazelle machine ( the one that Tony Little
advertises)
Also starting Weight Watchers

Anyone out there using this machine? Or is there any comments about
Weight
Watchers vs. other plans?

Need to lose around 50-75 pounds, I am a 51 year old female, retired and
very lazy

Any comments will be sooooooooooooooo appreciated! Especially about the
exercise machine - THANKS!
I am so not motivated - but I am thinking this is the place TO get
motivated - correct???

--

Exercise works for all .. I'm a classic aerobic & step trainer .... & i
think should be better u informe urself about the kind of food u can find at
the supermarket ..... lol
supplement r at our days necessery ...
"Patricia Heil" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
Supplements don't work as well as food for some nutrients like
anti-oxidants
and fiber.
VLCDs may result in too few carbs and reduced serotonin, leading to
depression.

Food isn't everything. You have to exercise to be healthy.

Exercise works for all .. I'm a classic aerobic & step trainer .... & i
think should be better u informe urself about the kind of food u can find at
the supermarket ..... lol
supplement r at our days necessery ...
"Patricia Heil" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
Supplements don't work as well as food for some nutrients like
anti-oxidants
and fiber.
VLCDs may result in too few carbs and reduced serotonin, leading to
depression.

Food isn't everything. You have to exercise to be healthy.

LucaBG wrote:
Exercise works for all .. I'm a classic aerobic & step trainer .... & i
think should be better u informe urself about the kind of food u can find at
the supermarket ..... lol
supplement r at our days necessery ...
"Patricia Heil" ha scritto:

Food isn't everything. You have to exercise to be healthy.

You two seem made for each other!

Luca, here's just a few format tips from the self-appointed Net Police
(that's me, and I'm joking.)

Many of us (that's ME) prefer bottom posting. We tend to have
conversations here and build on what people said, so putting your
comments inline and snipping out unnecesary text is the standard format.

We also prefer you spell out words like "you", although there is a great
deal of lattitude given to people for whom English is a second (or
third, or fourth) language.

Having told you this, I'm not going to get upset if you ignore my
advice. I just thought you should know you were committing a faux pas.

Also, I apologize, but I don't remember your story. What are your stats
for beginning weight/current weight/goal weight?

Dally
244/174/168