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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:05:42 -0700, CygnusX-1 wrote:
I know ppl say skipping breakfast is bad, but drinking water helps..right? They say so for a reason. IIRC several studies have shown that you need breakfast if you want to perform at your normal level and be succesful at weight loss. Not eating breakfast can lead to cravings during the morning and will probably result in you eating more lunch. Our digestive system is optimized to small bits, so even if you eat a small breakfast and then have a snack at work, you'd be doing better than having no breakfast. I take no more than 5 minutes for my breakfast if I need to, although I prefer to enjoy the time with my family and generally free an hour for it. Isn't it good to excercise on an empty stomach? I prefer not to, as I get dizzy. -- -- Boemsi 207 - 192 - 180 |
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Ignoramus24885 wrote:
In article , Dally wrote: And a pretty high dose of simple carbs, too. Those are refined flour bagels. I eat 1/2 a whole wheat bagel with light cream cheese and pieces of lox on top for breakfast most days. You may not get the benefit of low glycemic index if you replace a regular bagel with a whole wheat bagel. http://www.runningplanet.com/article...article_id=430 Whole wheat bread 75 Bagel, white 72 You're comparing two different things. Whole wheat bread and whole wheat bagels are different things. Besides, a gylcemic index difference of 3 points before you add the salmon and cheese is negligible in the total load. If you like to eat bagels, fine, but, in your instance you are not likely to get a real benefit from substituting white flour bagels with whole wheat. So your suggestion is that it doesn't matter whether you eat 1/2 whole wheat bagel or an entire refined flour raisin bagel, it all works out to be the same? No, don't answer that. I'm heading out for the week-end and I wouldn't see it. Dally |
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Ignoramus24885 wrote:
In article , Dally wrote: And a pretty high dose of simple carbs, too. Those are refined flour bagels. I eat 1/2 a whole wheat bagel with light cream cheese and pieces of lox on top for breakfast most days. You may not get the benefit of low glycemic index if you replace a regular bagel with a whole wheat bagel. http://www.runningplanet.com/article...article_id=430 Whole wheat bread 75 Bagel, white 72 You're comparing two different things. Whole wheat bread and whole wheat bagels are different things. Besides, a gylcemic index difference of 3 points before you add the salmon and cheese is negligible in the total load. If you like to eat bagels, fine, but, in your instance you are not likely to get a real benefit from substituting white flour bagels with whole wheat. So your suggestion is that it doesn't matter whether you eat 1/2 whole wheat bagel or an entire refined flour raisin bagel, it all works out to be the same? No, don't answer that. I'm heading out for the week-end and I wouldn't see it. Dally |
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rosie wrote:
thanks for the site dally......................i am not a fan of the BFL program. That's okay, I'm not a fan of Atkins. Doesn't make it wrong, though. Dally |
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rosie wrote:
thanks for the site dally......................i am not a fan of the BFL program. That's okay, I'm not a fan of Atkins. Doesn't make it wrong, though. Dally |
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"Ignoramus24885" wrote in message ... In article , Dally wrote: Ignoramus24885 wrote: In article , Dally wrote: And a pretty high dose of simple carbs, too. Those are refined flour bagels. I eat 1/2 a whole wheat bagel with light cream cheese and pieces of lox on top for breakfast most days. You may not get the benefit of low glycemic index if you replace a regular bagel with a whole wheat bagel. http://www.runningplanet.com/article...article_id=430 Whole wheat bread 75 Bagel, white 72 You're comparing two different things. Whole wheat bread and whole wheat bagels are different things. Agreed, but, my giess, not very different things. Even refined flour bagels are somehow different from "wonderbread", and whole wheat bagels would be (it is my guess) similar to whole wheat bread. my guess is that the GI of your whole wheat bagel would be also around 70. Besides, a gylcemic index difference of 3 points before you add the salmon and cheese is negligible in the total load. Exactly my point. So I agree. If you like to eat bagels, fine, but, in your instance you are not likely to get a real benefit from substituting white flour bagels with whole wheat. So your suggestion is that it doesn't matter whether you eat 1/2 whole wheat bagel or an entire refined flour raisin bagel, it all works out to be the same? I don't know what will be the contribution of raisins, but a half bagel is, obviously, less carbs than a whole bagel. GI is tricky and leads to quite a bit of confusion. Add raisins, and GI changes. Whole wheat bagels probably have sugar added, likely more than regular bread. That's my speculation. i Well that's as good as fact, isn't it? You are making a lot of assumptions based on the little you know. Dally didn't mention any brands or where she gets her bagels but as usual you've decided someone who isn't you is obviously too stupid to read a label or learn what they're putting in their mouth. FYI, my husband eats bagels that are whole grain wheat and are baked without sugar. Jenn |
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"Ignoramus24885" wrote in message ... In article , Dally wrote: Ignoramus24885 wrote: In article , Dally wrote: And a pretty high dose of simple carbs, too. Those are refined flour bagels. I eat 1/2 a whole wheat bagel with light cream cheese and pieces of lox on top for breakfast most days. You may not get the benefit of low glycemic index if you replace a regular bagel with a whole wheat bagel. http://www.runningplanet.com/article...article_id=430 Whole wheat bread 75 Bagel, white 72 You're comparing two different things. Whole wheat bread and whole wheat bagels are different things. Agreed, but, my giess, not very different things. Even refined flour bagels are somehow different from "wonderbread", and whole wheat bagels would be (it is my guess) similar to whole wheat bread. my guess is that the GI of your whole wheat bagel would be also around 70. Besides, a gylcemic index difference of 3 points before you add the salmon and cheese is negligible in the total load. Exactly my point. So I agree. If you like to eat bagels, fine, but, in your instance you are not likely to get a real benefit from substituting white flour bagels with whole wheat. So your suggestion is that it doesn't matter whether you eat 1/2 whole wheat bagel or an entire refined flour raisin bagel, it all works out to be the same? I don't know what will be the contribution of raisins, but a half bagel is, obviously, less carbs than a whole bagel. GI is tricky and leads to quite a bit of confusion. Add raisins, and GI changes. Whole wheat bagels probably have sugar added, likely more than regular bread. That's my speculation. i Well that's as good as fact, isn't it? You are making a lot of assumptions based on the little you know. Dally didn't mention any brands or where she gets her bagels but as usual you've decided someone who isn't you is obviously too stupid to read a label or learn what they're putting in their mouth. FYI, my husband eats bagels that are whole grain wheat and are baked without sugar. Jenn |
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"Patricia Heil" wrote in message
... No. The point about breakfast is that your brain needs the calories after going without all night. Actually, the brain burns calories throughout the night, it's not like it ever shuts down or anything. And anyway, the liver dumps some glucose into the bloodstream first thing in the morning (which is actually a problem for some diabetics), so the brain gets his extra calories right when you open your eyes. The liver and glucose stores are usually around 1200 calories, so unless you emptied them, that's plenty enough to survive the whole day. There is a lot of breakfast propaganda coming from the breakfast industry. Like, my local pharmacy has a large poster telling me the large amount of things I should try to stuff myself for breakfast (which would cause me to vomit if I tried). When you look at the fine print, the poster is actually paid by Lu, which manufactures those marvelous biscuits (hydrogenated fats, wheat syrup, white flour) which are supposed to replace the milk and cereals from the breakfast. So, more and more people in my country moved from a light breakfast (black coffee and optionnal croissant or single toast) to a full blown dietetic breakfast (coffee, milk/yogourt, cereals, fruit, egg...) under the presure of dietitians, advertisement, doctors... So far, the net effect is that we are finally catching up with the USA on the obesity race, while we used to be among the worst performers. I always schedule fasting cholesterol tests as early in the morning as possible because I know from experience that if I don't eat in the morning, I get really nasty and have trouble making good decisions, and I often have to break religious fasts short due to headaches. That's a very personnal thing, it depends on the people, and it even changes as you age. It also depends on what you ate for dinner (if I have a large dinner, I can go without eating up to 2pm with no problem), and your particular diet (high carb or not)... I do most of my fasting tests at 10am, because I don't like getting up early *just* to go to the lab, and I only feel moderately hungry at that time. Many countries have only a symbolic breakfast (France, Spain, Italy, most of the mediterrannea), and people just adjust to that. The difference is that they tend to have a good dinner late. The countries that have a large breakfast tend to have an early and light dinner, so it all balances out. Except in the USA, where both breakfast and dinner are heavy. I don't think exercising before breakfast is a bad thing, it's my best time for extremely long walks because I can get them done before it gets too warm. But I never skip breakfast. You don't need glucose for long moderate activity sport, since you will exhaust whatever glucose store you have and switch to fat metabolism anyway. It's all a matter of preference. If I eat, especially carbs, before a walk, I will be buzzing with nervous energy and able to cold start very fast with no trouble. On an empty stomach, it feels more like setting for a long walk with the energy to keep going for hours (which eventually happens with carbs too). It all depends on my mood of the day. |
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