Diet Linked To Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma

"J" wrote in message ...
pearl wrote:

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Please stop (all of you) your infernal cross-posting to sci.med.diseases.cancer

Sorry, but I'm unwilling to comply with your request, as I believe
that cancer sufferers are entitled to information that may well help
improve their condition, and help to prevent any future recurrence.

We are trying to keep track of patients and your posts are making theirs expire from our newsreaders
faster.

You have chosen to do that in what is effectively an open public forum.
If you wish to conduct private research, I suggest you choose a more
private method (and I'd imagine your patients would much prefer that
too), like email lists (such as yahoo! groups), or at your own site.

Nobody on this newsgroup is entering (nor interested in) your exchanges.

You don't know that. As a researcher or patient, I'd be VERY interested.

puzzles over that attitude for awhile

"Barbara Hirsch" wrote in message ...
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:29:57 +0100, "pearl"
wrote:

Ipse dixit. You've a vested interest in such dangerous non-sense, missus.

You're an ass.

Projection.

I write about drug development, not diets. No vested
interest whatsoever.

Yes, drug development for obese people. And it is not
in your interest that millions of obese people should find
out about a (healthy, tasty) diet that has been shown to
really work,- that they can be slim and fit without drugs.

Ploink with you. You're not worth the time.

Bye.


Barbara Hirsch, Publisher
OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS
The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development
http://www.obesity-news.com/

Moosh wrote:
Doug Freyburger posted:

Yup. Veggies are mandatory from day one on.

They were taboo in his first book, IIRC.

Unless you actually read it and actually follow the directions that
really appear in it. Such hard work when taking one of your
preconceived notions and reading it into the book when it is not in
there is so much more fun, I guess.

Doctor Atkins Diet Revolution, 1972 edition. It mandated a daily
salad of at least 2 cups volume from day one on. Last time I looked
the long list of salad veggies all count as veggies. From day 8 on
it mandates veggies from the next low carb list like cauliflower.

You had to get into ketosis and veges would preclude this for many.

Well under 1 in a 100 have a CCLL under 20.

I thought you could eat as much fat and protein
as you desired, but that vegetables and fruit were restricted?

Because you haven't even read the book.

Which one?

Doesn't matter since 1972 DADR, 1993, 1999 and 2002 DANDR all mandate
at least salad from day one and all but the 1972 one require additional
veggies day one on.

Do you have any idea
how hilarious it is watching idiots who haven't even read the book
go around pontificating about it?

See above.

Exactly my point, thanx.

"pearl" wrote in message
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"J" wrote in message
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pearl wrote:

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Please stop (all of you) your infernal cross-posting to
sci.med.diseases.cancer

Sorry, but I'm unwilling to comply with your request, as I believe
that cancer sufferers are entitled to information that may well help
improve their condition, and help to prevent any future recurrence.



What arrogant stupidity........
Don't you understand that your silly, lazy crossposting leads to hundreds of
unnecessary junk postings?
Or maybe you don't care?

STOP THE CROSS POSTING

Ignoramus14879 wrote:
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Please stop (all of you) your infernal cross-posting to sci.med.diseases.cancer

Sorry, but I'm unwilling to comply with your request, as I believe
that cancer sufferers are entitled to information that may well help
improve their condition, and help to prevent any future recurrence.

How would this information help people who already have cancer. What a
pile of bull****.

She's a reflexologist. She thinks crossposting her crap to newsgroups makes her
more like a doctor than a New Age hippie foot-rubber.

Steph wrote:
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Sorry, but I'm unwilling to comply with your request, as I believe
that cancer sufferers are entitled to information that may well help
improve their condition, and help to prevent any future recurrence.

What arrogant stupidity........

That's Lesley (aka pearl, Lotus, lilweed, etc.) for ya. She's a reflexologist
who believes the earth is hollow and is inhabited with a secret society of
enlightened beings.

http://snipurl.com/516b

Don't you understand that your silly, lazy crossposting leads to hundreds of
unnecessary junk postings?

It wasn't lazy, she intentionally added your group to her crossposting of this
thread.

Or maybe you don't care?

She doesn't.

STOP THE CROSS POSTING

She won't. She's a nutjob who doesn't care.

"Ignoramus14879" wrote in message ...
In article , pearl wrote:
"J" wrote in message ...
pearl wrote:

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Please stop (all of you) your infernal cross-posting to sci.med.diseases.cancer

Sorry, but I'm unwilling to comply with your request, as I believe
that cancer sufferers are entitled to information that may well help
improve their condition, and help to prevent any future recurrence.

How would this information help people who already have cancer.

If your bath is overflowing, do you;
a. Leave the taps on, and the plug in?
b. Turn the taps off, and pull out the plug?

Simple really.

"Steph" wrote in message news:7OX9c.43553$li5.25682@pd7tw3no...

"pearl" wrote in message
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"J" wrote in message
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pearl wrote:

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Please stop (all of you) your infernal cross-posting to
sci.med.diseases.cancer

Sorry, but I'm unwilling to comply with your request, as I believe
that cancer sufferers are entitled to information that may well help
improve their condition, and help to prevent any future recurrence.

What arrogant stupidity........
Don't you understand that your silly, lazy crossposting leads to hundreds of
unnecessary junk postings?
Or maybe you don't care?

STOP THE CROSS POSTING

You're right- what you wrote was arrogant stupidity.

"Ignoramus14879" wrote in message ...
In article , pearl wrote:
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Yes, drug development for obese people. And it is not
in your interest that millions of obese people should find
out about a (healthy, tasty) diet that has been shown to
really work,- that they can be slim and fit without drugs.

There are numerous diets that can help people become slim.

'Perhaps as much as $30-40 billion (Atkinson 1992) is now
being expended in the United States for products and programs
thought to hold promise of a possible solution. Yet, in spite of
this widespread interest, control of obesity has mostly remained
intractable; probably no more than 5% of those who attempt
weight reduction, actually succeed (Wadden et al. 1989). It is
commonly believed that those few individuals who successfully
lose and maintain lower body weights are those who succeed in
making substantial changes in their dietary and lifestyle practices.
In contrast, gimmickry involving highly focused and quick-fix
interventions are almost always unsuccessful.'
http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases...sis_paper.html

As for being fit, it requires exercise and not diet.

Read the above-linked paper.

The common denominator between diets that really work, is that they
require people to stop treating food as entertainment and not eat any
more than necessary.

And eat the right foods.

I lost weight on a diet that included meat and fish daily, for
instance, and successfully keep it off.

Good for you, but it's still unhealthy.

'..only small intakes of animal based foods were associated
with significant increases in plasma cholesterol concentration
and chronic degenerative diseases. ..'
http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases...sis_paper.html

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"pearl" wrote in message
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"J" wrote in message
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pearl wrote:

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Please stop (all of you) your infernal cross-posting to
sci.med.diseases.cancer

Sorry, but I'm unwilling to comply with your request, as I believe
that cancer sufferers are entitled to information that may well help
improve their condition, and help to prevent any future recurrence.

What arrogant stupidity........
Don't you understand that your silly, lazy crossposting leads to hundreds of
unnecessary junk postings?
Or maybe you don't care?

STOP THE CROSS POSTING

You're right- what you wrote was arrogant stupidity.