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Atkins = ? (should i start this again?)
Vegetarian wrote:
In article , JC Der Koenig wrote: Look at your BMI. At 5'6" and 190, you are over 30, which is categorized as obese. And if he is at 12% bodyfat? Still obese? Idiot. I highly doubt that having this pile of useless, worthless muscles is doing anything good for his health. Having a BMI of 32 is bad. Being fat at BMI 32 is horrible, being muscular at BMI 32 is not that great either. Some dumbo bodybuilders think that by growing muscles, they are doing themselves a favor. One needs to only look at their IQ to realize that it is not the case and that they are not benefitting. John. WONDERFUL sweeping generalization there "John." Why is it that every anonymous asshole in Usenet thinks it is OK to be a bigot and to make ludicrous assumptions about entire groups of people? John, when you butch up and learn a thing or two about these topics come back, but for now, just keep fondling your neighbor's 5 year old son. -- Robert Schuh "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality, the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors" - Nietzsche "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa |
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JC Der Koenig wrote:
"Vegetarian" wrote in message ... In article , JC Der Koenig wrote: Look at your BMI. At 5'6" and 190, you are over 30, which is categorized as obese. And if he is at 12% bodyfat? Still obese? Idiot. I highly doubt that having this pile of useless, worthless muscles is doing anything good for his health. Having a BMI of 32 is bad. Being fat at BMI 32 is horrible, being muscular at BMI 32 is not that great either. Some dumbo bodybuilders think that by growing muscles, they are doing themselves a favor. One needs to only look at their IQ to realize that it is not the case and that they are not benefitting. John. I've been laboring under the misconception that any correlation between muscularity and intelligence is strictly coincidental. Would you care to cite any studies that back up your gay little hypothesis? JC, You were doing well until you threw in your "gay" comment. Homophobia has no place in this argument. Stick to the facts. I thought that most people stopped thinking calling someone "gay" was an insult after the 5th grade or so. -- Robert Schuh "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality, the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors" - Nietzsche "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa |
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"Robert Schuh" wrote in message
... JC Der Koenig wrote: "Vegetarian" wrote in message ... In article , JC Der Koenig wrote: Look at your BMI. At 5'6" and 190, you are over 30, which is categorized as obese. And if he is at 12% bodyfat? Still obese? Idiot. I highly doubt that having this pile of useless, worthless muscles is doing anything good for his health. Having a BMI of 32 is bad. Being fat at BMI 32 is horrible, being muscular at BMI 32 is not that great either. Some dumbo bodybuilders think that by growing muscles, they are doing themselves a favor. One needs to only look at their IQ to realize that it is not the case and that they are not benefitting. John. I've been laboring under the misconception that any correlation between muscularity and intelligence is strictly coincidental. Would you care to cite any studies that back up your gay little hypothesis? JC, You were doing well until you threw in your "gay" comment. Homophobia has no place in this argument. But pedophilia apparently does. Stick to the facts. I thought that most people stopped thinking calling someone "gay" was an insult after the 5th grade or so. Please. Come back and moralize at others when you can live up to your own standards. "John, when you butch up and learn a thing or two about these topics come back, but for now, just keep fondling your neighbor's 5 year old son." Message-ID: revek --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.536 / Virus Database: 331 - Release Date: 11/3/2003 |
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"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message gy.com... Why don't you go back to sucking your boyfriends dick and leave the diet advice to the competent. If you think promoting Atkins makes you competent, you are wrong. Mad hatter is correct. You MUST exercise, and you MUST have a proper diet. It is that simple. People fail at these fad diets because they are just that, fads. Your daily diet must be the right combo of carbs, EFA's, and protein. Your daily eating habits must fit into your daily routine without you having to think about it, so it must be part of your lifestyle. The initial weight loss on Atkins is water weight as the Atkins book also states. Then, you will eventually plateau, then when you become irritated with the diet, you will quit and go back to the way you were before. Akins maintains a Cult like following, so I am guessing my words will fall on deaf ears. |
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"Robert Schuh" wrote in message ... JC Der Koenig wrote: "Vegetarian" wrote in message ... In article , JC Der Koenig wrote: Look at your BMI. At 5'6" and 190, you are over 30, which is categorized as obese. And if he is at 12% bodyfat? Still obese? Idiot. I highly doubt that having this pile of useless, worthless muscles is doing anything good for his health. Having a BMI of 32 is bad. Being fat at BMI 32 is horrible, being muscular at BMI 32 is not that great either. Some dumbo bodybuilders think that by growing muscles, they are doing themselves a favor. One needs to only look at their IQ to realize that it is not the case and that they are not benefitting. John. I've been laboring under the misconception that any correlation between muscularity and intelligence is strictly coincidental. Would you care to cite any studies that back up your gay little hypothesis? JC, You were doing well until you threw in your "gay" comment. Homophobia has no place in this argument. Stick to the facts. I thought that most people stopped thinking calling someone "gay" was an insult after the 5th grade or so. Gay as in happy. Try to think outside the box you've built for yourself. |
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"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message m... Gay as in happy. Try to think outside the box you've built for yourself. Also gay as in extremely lame, as the teenagers in this part of the country use the term. Language mutates. revek --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.536 / Virus Database: 331 - Release Date: 11/3/2003 |
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"revek" wrote in message ... "JC Der Koenig" wrote in message m... Gay as in happy. Try to think outside the box you've built for yourself. Also gay as in extremely lame, as the teenagers in this part of the country use the term. Language mutates. revek I'm not sure that Robert is ready for that leap in logic. |
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Some dumbo bodybuilders think that by growing muscles, they are doing
themselves a favor. One needs to only look at their IQ to realize that it is not the case and that they are not benefitting. John. And you're the expert on IQ in relation to muscles and body mass? Many who exercise , or are active, tend to be more alert in cognitive and motor skills. Saying those who grow muscles are doing themselves a disfavor because it affects their IQ, highlights where yours is sitting. Do big muscular guys scare you? Are you challenged by those who have muscles and brains too? It's okay John, we big guys won't go anywhere near you. We can't take the chance of being hurt by your overwhelming intellect. ;-) |
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"revek" wrote in message ... "Patricia Heil" wrote in message ... I recently posted here that one of my concerns with Atkins is that 68% of those who tried it, in one clinical study, wound up constipated. And how long was this study? Did they ever get past the first phase? That is kind of important, as you move past induction, which is supposed to last 2 weeks only, you are supposed to begin eating more vegetables, and less of other things. Two weeks is not long enough to give you long term problems, and any study that focuses on the begining stage as if it is the whole diet is worthless as a source of information. and i have read that some people's initial phase lasts longer based on how much they want or need to loose. Is that true? That is bad for long term health. Removing fiber from the diet demonstrably leads to colo-rectal cancer, the third leading cancer killer behind lung cancer and prostate cancer, and therefore the #2 preventable killer cancer. that is a very good point. i am sure that a proponent of the diet could bring up something to debate you on this, but i havent seen anything of that sort yet. Atkins goes out of it's way to insist on lots of fiber-- and in the two week beiginning phase if you do not eat enough fiberous vegetables, you are supposed to ease the *temporary* situation with fiber supplements. So does that prevent the above? I even have anecdotal evidence, a friend of mine was unable to tolerate any fiber in her diet and she died about 20 years ago from colo-rectal cancer at the age of only about 40. I'm terribly sorry for your loss. But really you are arguing a strawman. Atkins is not a no fiber/ no veggie diet. revek --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.536 / Virus Database: 331 - Release Date: 11/3/2003 |
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"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message ... Look at your BMI. At 5'6" and 190, you are over 30, which is categorized as obese. And if he is at 12% bodyfat? Still obese? Idiot. Like I said, I do not have a ton of excess flab, and alot of it is muscle. so I don't put alot into what a persons BMI index is unless they are really noticeably fat. I don't have a double chin, and my arms, legs, and neck look slim. the weight I want to loose is around my stomach and sides, to give you an idea. |
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