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Old May 27th, 2004, 06:26 PM
Lacustral
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Has anybody been able to make their inhalant allergies better by changing
their diet?

I don't mean, finding hidden food allergies and intolerances. And, I don't
mean by being on a weight-loss diet. Fasting makes allergies less severe,
so being on a weight-loss diet might also, somewhat.

But rather, and anti-inflammatory diet. Like the diet that helps people
with rheumatoid arthritis, which inflames joints - low in arachidonic acid,
low fat, with fish oil supplements. I'm not sure why low-fat would be
anti-inflammatory, but 2 possible reasons: long term, a low fat diet
decreases insulin levels (see
http://www.lightlink.com/lark/comparison.html ),
and lower insulin would mean that arachidonic acid
is less converted into inflammatory compounds. Also, a low fat diet makes
the blood less "sticky" so there is better circulation in small tiny blood
vessels, so inflammatory compounds are cleared away from the area better.

Arachidonic acid is found only in non-plant foods, so a strict vegetarian
diet has none of it. Or, one can limit arachidonic acid by keeping track of
the animals foods one eats. So, has anybody found that going vegan helped
their allergies?

I don't have typical allergy symptoms - no runny nose or sneezing - i get
sinus congestion, inflammation which doesn't involve infection so far as I
know.

http://www.lightlink.com/lark/nutr.html

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Old May 27th, 2004, 09:41 PM
Dali
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On 27 May 2004 17:26:52 GMT, (Lacustral)
snickered:

Has anybody been able to make their inhalant allergies better by changing
their diet?

I don't mean, finding hidden food allergies and intolerances. And, I don't
mean by being on a weight-loss diet. Fasting makes allergies less severe,
so being on a weight-loss diet might also, somewhat.

But rather, and anti-inflammatory diet. Like the diet that helps people
with rheumatoid arthritis, which inflames joints - low in arachidonic acid,
low fat, with fish oil supplements. I'm not sure why low-fat would be
anti-inflammatory, but 2 possible reasons: long term, a low fat diet
decreases insulin levels (see
http://www.lightlink.com/lark/comparison.html ),
and lower insulin would mean that arachidonic acid
is less converted into inflammatory compounds. Also, a low fat diet makes
the blood less "sticky" so there is better circulation in small tiny blood
vessels, so inflammatory compounds are cleared away from the area better.

Arachidonic acid is found only in non-plant foods, so a strict vegetarian
diet has none of it. Or, one can limit arachidonic acid by keeping track of
the animals foods one eats. So, has anybody found that going vegan helped
their allergies?

I don't have typical allergy symptoms - no runny nose or sneezing - i get
sinus congestion, inflammation which doesn't involve infection so far as I
know.

http://www.lightlink.com/lark/nutr.html


Lets get some common sence here. The diet of man has been meat,
vegies, fruit, nuts. A balance meal contains the above. Breads(wheat
only) and other carbs should be eaten in moderation. excercise is of
course key. The government pyramid scheme is the worst diet in the
world for most body types. mine for example.
btw, you are what you eat


"If you are going through hell, keep going."
- Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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Old May 28th, 2004, 12:38 AM
Dali
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On 27 May 2004 17:26:52 GMT, (Lacustral)
snickered:

Has anybody been able to make their inhalant allergies better by changing
their diet?

I don't mean, finding hidden food allergies and intolerances. And, I don't
mean by being on a weight-loss diet. Fasting makes allergies less severe,
so being on a weight-loss diet might also, somewhat.

But rather, and anti-inflammatory diet. Like the diet that helps people
with rheumatoid arthritis, which inflames joints - low in arachidonic acid,
low fat, with fish oil supplements. I'm not sure why low-fat would be
anti-inflammatory, but 2 possible reasons: long term, a low fat diet
decreases insulin levels (see
http://www.lightlink.com/lark/comparison.html ),
and lower insulin would mean that arachidonic acid
is less converted into inflammatory compounds. Also, a low fat diet makes
the blood less "sticky" so there is better circulation in small tiny blood
vessels, so inflammatory compounds are cleared away from the area better.

Arachidonic acid is found only in non-plant foods, so a strict vegetarian
diet has none of it. Or, one can limit arachidonic acid by keeping track of
the animals foods one eats. So, has anybody found that going vegan helped
their allergies?

I don't have typical allergy symptoms - no runny nose or sneezing - i get
sinus congestion, inflammation which doesn't involve infection so far as I
know.

http://www.lightlink.com/lark/nutr.html


Wanted to post the importance of what you eat. There are many foods to
treat parsons condition and help with the symptoms.
OMEGA-Everymedicine is usually just something they foud in the wild
and packaged and produced for $. Here something from the mirkin vaults
that you might find interesting.

WEEDS FOR FUTURE MEDICINES

Gabe Mirkin, M.D.

A study from the University of Geogia and the University of Michigan
showed that most of the medications that you will take in the future
are highly likely to come from weeds, because weeds have such weak
structures that they need chemicals that kill viruses, bacteria,
fungi, animals and even man to protect them. These chemicals protect
you when they get into your cells after you eat them.

Drs. John Stepp of the University of Georgia and Daniel Moerman of the
University of Michigan report that, in the future, most new drugs will
come from weeds that overgrow in your vacant lot or along the highway.
Digitalis, used for almost 350 years to treat heart failure comes from
the foxglove plant. Many modern medications are laboratory copies of
chemicals made by plants.

Drs. Stepp and Moerman went to Chiapas , Mexico, where 80 percent of
the people speak only the Mayan language, showing that they are in a
culture that is isolated from the modern world and holds on to old
traditions and customs for hundreds of years. So they are treating
diseases in the same way that they have been doing for more than a
thousand years. The villagers gave them 105 different plants that they
used to treat diseases. The doctors report that 35 of the 105 plants
were weeds, fast growing plants that have a difficult time competing
with other plants, so they don't have their own place to grow and can
grow only in places where man or nature has cleared the land or built
trails, knocking off slower growing and more hardy plants that would
normally live there. For weeds to comprise 35 perent of the plants
used for medicinal purposes is amazing, because weeds normally occupy
only a small part of the landscape.

Drs. Stepp and Moerman feel that weeds offer the greatest chance to
discover new drugs from plants. The more hardy plants grow slowly and
have thick bark, woody stems and thick leaves that offer a barrier
protection against insects, molds, bacteria, viruses, animals and man.
Since weeds have to grow very fast to just stay alive, they have thin
structures, no bark, fragile stems and droopy leaves. Therefore they
do not have natural protective covers like more slowly growing plants
and have to produce lots of antioxidants to help them heal when they
are broken, lots of insecticides, fungicides, bactericides, virucides
and even poisons to protect them from the many other beings on earth
that want to replace them. In the future, chances are that most of
your medicines will be extracted from weeds.

All of the vegetables, grains and beans, and some of the fruits we eat
today are just weeds that our ancestors found to be edible and tasty.
When humans began to farm and settle, they gradually improved their
weeds to make them larger, easier to grow, harvest and store. But
everything in your produce department has weed relatives, and the
phytochemicals in plants are often found in other members of the same
plant family.

You can gather dandelion greens and many other weeds as your ancestors
did, but if wild foraging doesn't appeal to you, you can get the
beneficial phytochemicals in weeds right in your produce department.

Common weeds / Related foods:
Thistles / Artichokes
Dandelions, ragweed, chicory / Lettuce
Kudzu, crown vetch / Beans, peas
Jimsonweed, Nightshade/ Tomatoes, eggplant, peppers
Crabgrass/ Wheat, barley, rye
Knotweed / Buckwheat
BitterCress, Wild mustard / Broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower
Brambles / Raspberries
Pigweed / Amaranth
Poison hemlock, Queen Anne's lace / Carrots

Growing, gathering and learning about herbs and edible wild plants can
be fascinating, but but study carefully and don't eat anything unless
you are sure of it's identity and use.




"If you are going through hell, keep going."
- Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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Old June 3rd, 2004, 11:47 AM
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from (Lacustral):

Has anybody been able to make their inhalant allergies better by changing
their diet?


I don't mean, finding hidden food allergies and intolerances. And, I don't
mean by being on a weight-loss diet. Fasting makes allergies less severe,
so being on a weight-loss diet might also, somewhat.


But rather, and anti-inflammatory diet. Like the diet that helps people
with rheumatoid arthritis, which inflames joints - low in arachidonic acid,
low fat, with fish oil supplements. I'm not sure why low-fat would be
anti-inflammatory, but 2 possible reasons: long term, a low fat diet
decreases insulin levels (see
http://www.lightlink.com/lark/comparison.html ),
and lower insulin would mean that arachidonic acid
is less converted into inflammatory compounds. Also, a low fat diet makes
the blood less "sticky" so there is better circulation in small tiny blood
vessels, so inflammatory compounds are cleared away from the area better.


Arachidonic acid is found only in non-plant foods, so a strict vegetarian
diet has none of it. Or, one can limit arachidonic acid by keeping track of
the animals foods one eats. So, has anybody found that going vegan helped
their allergies?


I don't have typical allergy symptoms - no runny nose or sneezing - i get
sinus congestion, inflammation which doesn't involve infection so far as I
know.


http://www.lightlink.com/lark/nutr.html


Yes, diet can affect allergies. Going off dairy products often helps, though
I believe this is not universally true.

I think fasting would make allergies more severe. My respiratory problems are
worst when I'm running on empty and improve after eating under difficult
conditions with chest tightness and breathing difficulty. I don't know if this
is typical, it could be my lack of fat reserve, being so far underweight, which
would clearly rule out fasting.

Whatever made you think arachidonic acid is found only in non-plant foods?
Arachidonic acid gets its name from peanuts (Arachis hypogaea). I don't think
peanuts, with the arachidonic acid, are inflammatory, unless the person is
specifically allergic. I don't think the raw peanuts I eat do any harm.

Dali responded:

Lets get some common sence here. The diet of man has been meat,
vegies, fruit, nuts. A balance meal contains the above. Breads(wheat
only) and other carbs should be eaten in moderation. excercise is of
course key. The government pyramid scheme is the worst diet in the
world for most body types. mine for example.
btw, you are what you eat


I say there is far too much starch in the American diet. Starch is used in
laundry to make shirt collars irritatingly stiff, and it seems starchy foods
make my chest muscles stiff too. I've been having difficulty swallowing
starchy foods, recently has been more severe. Government pyramid scheme puts
far too much emphasis on dairy products and cereal grains. I think many
marathon runners pig out on pasta the day before the race, and I don't see the
rationale. It would certainly not work for me because I wouldn't be able to
take more than a few little bites. Complex carbohydrates are a religion for
some people.

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Old June 5th, 2004, 02:58 PM
Kelvin @ SG
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Agree with Thomas on Peanut issue!
Peanut lubricates stomache and intestines, helps body getting rid of poisons
and oxidants...

Don't overeat any food, Chinese medicine theory says more is bad...

Juices are good for poor immine system people...gingers also...How about
garlic?

I was still not aware diary products severes allergy...is it true?

How does Yakult interact with garlic & ginger? One is bacteria, another is
antibiotic...

Are almond the nuts in the core of apricots?

Kelvin





"Thomas Mueller" wrote in message
...
from (Lacustral):

Has anybody been able to make their inhalant allergies better by

changing
their diet?


I don't mean, finding hidden food allergies and intolerances. And, I

don't
mean by being on a weight-loss diet. Fasting makes allergies less

severe,
so being on a weight-loss diet might also, somewhat.


But rather, and anti-inflammatory diet. Like the diet that helps people
with rheumatoid arthritis, which inflames joints - low in arachidonic

acid,
low fat, with fish oil supplements. I'm not sure why low-fat would be
anti-inflammatory, but 2 possible reasons: long term, a low fat diet
decreases insulin levels (see
http://www.lightlink.com/lark/comparison.html ),
and lower insulin would mean that arachidonic acid
is less converted into inflammatory compounds. Also, a low fat diet

makes
the blood less "sticky" so there is better circulation in small tiny

blood
vessels, so inflammatory compounds are cleared away from the area

better.

Arachidonic acid is found only in non-plant foods, so a strict

vegetarian
diet has none of it. Or, one can limit arachidonic acid by keeping

track of
the animals foods one eats. So, has anybody found that going vegan

helped
their allergies?


I don't have typical allergy symptoms - no runny nose or sneezing - i

get
sinus congestion, inflammation which doesn't involve infection so far as

I
know.


http://www.lightlink.com/lark/nutr.html


Yes, diet can affect allergies. Going off dairy products often helps,

though
I believe this is not universally true.

I think fasting would make allergies more severe. My respiratory problems

are
worst when I'm running on empty and improve after eating under difficult
conditions with chest tightness and breathing difficulty. I don't know if

this
is typical, it could be my lack of fat reserve, being so far underweight,

which
would clearly rule out fasting.

Whatever made you think arachidonic acid is found only in non-plant foods?
Arachidonic acid gets its name from peanuts (Arachis hypogaea). I don't

think
peanuts, with the arachidonic acid, are inflammatory, unless the person is
specifically allergic. I don't think the raw peanuts I eat do any harm.

Dali responded:

Lets get some common sence here. The diet of man has been meat,
vegies, fruit, nuts. A balance meal contains the above. Breads(wheat
only) and other carbs should be eaten in moderation. excercise is of
course key. The government pyramid scheme is the worst diet in the
world for most body types. mine for example.
btw, you are what you eat


I say there is far too much starch in the American diet. Starch is used

in
laundry to make shirt collars irritatingly stiff, and it seems starchy

foods
make my chest muscles stiff too. I've been having difficulty swallowing
starchy foods, recently has been more severe. Government pyramid scheme

puts
far too much emphasis on dairy products and cereal grains. I think many
marathon runners pig out on pasta the day before the race, and I don't see

the
rationale. It would certainly not work for me because I wouldn't be able

to
take more than a few little bites. Complex carbohydrates are a religion

for
some people.



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Old June 11th, 2004, 06:45 PM
Lacustral
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Don Brady wrote:

On 27 May 2004 17:26:52 GMT, (Lacustral) wrote:

Has anybody been able to make their inhalant allergies better by changing
their diet?


I find that salmon does help - eat just a little once a day. Use wild-caught
salmon to avoid mercury. You can buy it frozen to reduce the cost from Whole
Foods.


That's interesting ... but be aware that different kinds of salmon have
widely varying amounts of arachidonic acid. Arachidonic acid in the diet
decreased the anti-inflammatory effect of fish oil in the study on
ppl with rheumatoid arthritis, and likely it has the same effect on sinus
inflammation.

The salmon you get in the stores around here is Atlantic farmed salmon,
which has a really HUGE amount of arachidonic acid in it. People on
anti-inflammatory diets are told "avoid red meat and eggs" - well, 10 oz
of Atlantic farmed salmon has 15 times the arachidonic acid that ground
lamb does; and 10 oz of this salmon has as much arachidonic acid as about
40 eggs!

I think - but am not sure - that the farmed salmon tends to have a worse
ratio of arachidonic acid to EPA/DHA than does wild salmon. So if you can
get wild salmon, it might be healthy for you.

I suggest if you are eating fish for the omega-3's, checking in the USDA
database to see how much arachidonic acid it has (20:4 polyunsaturated).

I have had awful, awful allergies this spring ... i have been eating the
Atlantic farmed salmon for the omega-3's and giving myself a walloping
amount of arachidonic acid at the same time, and I suspect this might be
why my allergies are *far* worse than they were last year.

Laura

http://www.lightlink.com/lark/nutr.html has links to the study on
arachidonic acid in rheumatoid arthritis, and to the USDA database ...

what i originally posted:

Has anybody been able to make their inhalant allergies better by changing
their diet?

I don't mean, finding hidden food allergies and intolerances. And, I don't
mean by being on a weight-loss diet. Fasting makes allergies less severe,
so being on a weight-loss diet might also, somewhat.

But rather, and anti-inflammatory diet. Like the diet that helps people
with rheumatoid arthritis, which inflames joints - low in arachidonic acid,
low fat, with fish oil supplements. I'm not sure why low-fat would be
anti-inflammatory, but 2 possible reasons: long term, a low fat diet
decreases insulin levels (see
http://www.lightlink.com/lark/comparison.html ),
and lower insulin would mean that arachidonic acid
is less converted into inflammatory compounds. Also, a low fat diet makes
the blood less "sticky" so there is better circulation in small tiny blood
vessels, so inflammatory compounds are cleared away from the area better.

Arachidonic acid is found only in non-plant foods, so a strict vegetarian
diet has none of it. Or, one can limit arachidonic acid by keeping track of
the animals foods one eats. So, has anybody found that going vegan helped
their allergies?

I don't have typical allergy symptoms - no runny nose or sneezing - i get
sinus congestion, inflammation which doesn't involve infection so far as I
know.
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Old June 11th, 2004, 06:48 PM
Lacustral
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No, peanuts do not have arachidonic acid. Look them up in the USDA
database. Arachidonic acid is 20:4 polyunsaturated, and it is not good
for your body. Like cholesterol, it is only found in food from the
animal kingdom (scallops, beef, fish ...)

Look at my webpage http://www.lightlink.com/lark/nutr.html for lots of
useful information ... including the link to the USDA database.

Laura
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Old June 11th, 2004, 07:00 PM
Lacustral
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No, peanuts do not have arachidonic acid. Look them up in the USDA
database. Arachidonic acid is 20:4 polyunsaturated, and it is not good
for your body. Like cholesterol, it is only found in food from the
animal kingdom (scallops, beef, fish ...)

Look at my webpage http://www.lightlink.com/lark/nutr.html for lots of
useful information ... including the link to the USDA database.

Laura

what i originally posted:

Has anybody been able to make their inhalant allergies better by changing
their diet?

I don't mean, finding hidden food allergies and intolerances. And, I don't
mean by being on a weight-loss diet. Fasting makes allergies less severe,
so being on a weight-loss diet might also, somewhat.

But rather, and anti-inflammatory diet. Like the diet that helps people
with rheumatoid arthritis, which inflames joints - low in arachidonic acid,
low fat, with fish oil supplements. I'm not sure why low-fat would be
anti-inflammatory, but 2 possible reasons: long term, a low fat diet
decreases insulin levels (see
http://www.lightlink.com/lark/comparison.html ),
and lower insulin would mean that arachidonic acid
is less converted into inflammatory compounds. Also, a low fat diet makes
the blood less "sticky" so there is better circulation in small tiny blood
vessels, so inflammatory compounds are cleared away from the area better.

Arachidonic acid is found only in non-plant foods, so a strict vegetarian
diet has none of it. Or, one can limit arachidonic acid by keeping track of
the animals foods one eats. So, has anybody found that going vegan helped
their allergies?

I don't have typical allergy symptoms - no runny nose or sneezing - i get
sinus congestion, inflammation which doesn't involve infection so far as I
know.
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Old June 11th, 2004, 08:09 PM
Don Brady
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:45:31 -0400, Lacustral wrote:

I find that salmon does help - eat just a little once a day. Use wild-caught
salmon to avoid mercury. You can buy it frozen to reduce the cost from Whole
Foods.


That's interesting ... but be aware that different kinds of salmon have
widely varying amounts of arachidonic acid. Arachidonic acid in the diet
decreased the anti-inflammatory effect of fish oil in the study on
ppl with rheumatoid arthritis, and likely it has the same effect on sinus
inflammation.

The salmon you get in the stores around here is Atlantic farmed salmon,
which has a really HUGE amount of arachidonic acid in it. People on
anti-inflammatory diets are told "avoid red meat and eggs" - well, 10 oz
of Atlantic farmed salmon has 15 times the arachidonic acid that ground
lamb does; and 10 oz of this salmon has as much arachidonic acid as about
40 eggs!

I think - but am not sure - that the farmed salmon tends to have a worse
ratio of arachidonic acid to EPA/DHA than does wild salmon. So if you can
get wild salmon, it might be healthy for you.


I only eat wild salmon. You are not going to find wild salmon in regular
supermarkets, and it carries a premium in price.

Try Whole Foods or order over the Internet.

I have just checked the database and you are correct.

On the comnparison I checked, amount of 20:4 per 100 g.,
the values were 1.152 g. for Farmed and 0.267 g. for Wild.

So there is yet another reason to avoid farmed Salmon!

Thanks for the post!


I suggest if you are eating fish for the omega-3's, checking in the USDA
database to see how much arachidonic acid it has (20:4 polyunsaturated).

I have had awful, awful allergies this spring ... i have been eating the
Atlantic farmed salmon for the omega-3's and giving myself a walloping
amount of arachidonic acid at the same time, and I suspect this might be
why my allergies are *far* worse than they were last year.

Laura

http://www.lightlink.com/lark/nutr.html has links to the study on
arachidonic acid in rheumatoid arthritis, and to the USDA database ...

what i originally posted:

Has anybody been able to make their inhalant allergies better by changing
their diet?

I don't mean, finding hidden food allergies and intolerances. And, I don't
mean by being on a weight-loss diet. Fasting makes allergies less severe,
so being on a weight-loss diet might also, somewhat.

But rather, and anti-inflammatory diet. Like the diet that helps people
with rheumatoid arthritis, which inflames joints - low in arachidonic acid,
low fat, with fish oil supplements. I'm not sure why low-fat would be
anti-inflammatory, but 2 possible reasons: long term, a low fat diet
decreases insulin levels (see
http://www.lightlink.com/lark/comparison.html ),
and lower insulin would mean that arachidonic acid
is less converted into inflammatory compounds. Also, a low fat diet makes
the blood less "sticky" so there is better circulation in small tiny blood
vessels, so inflammatory compounds are cleared away from the area better.

Arachidonic acid is found only in non-plant foods, so a strict vegetarian
diet has none of it. Or, one can limit arachidonic acid by keeping track of
the animals foods one eats. So, has anybody found that going vegan helped
their allergies?


I have tried that and it did not hel me.



I don't have typical allergy symptoms - no runny nose or sneezing - i get
sinus congestion, inflammation which doesn't involve infection so far as I
know.


AIr quality/ irritants/ allergens are still likely the dominant factor, granted
that it is usually multifactorial.


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Old June 12th, 2004, 02:53 AM
Lacustral
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peanuts have *arachidic acid*. Not what i am talking about.

http://www.lightlink.com/lark

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Lacustral wrote:

No, peanuts do not have arachidonic acid. Look them up in the USDA
database. Arachidonic acid is 20:4 polyunsaturated, and it is not good
for your body. Like cholesterol, it is only found in food from the
animal kingdom (scallops, beef, fish ...)

Look at my webpage http://www.lightlink.com/lark/nutr.html for lots of
useful information ... including the link to the USDA database.

Laura

what i originally posted:

Has anybody been able to make their inhalant allergies better by changing
their diet?

I don't mean, finding hidden food allergies and intolerances. And, I don't
mean by being on a weight-loss diet. Fasting makes allergies less severe,
so being on a weight-loss diet might also, somewhat.

But rather, and anti-inflammatory diet. Like the diet that helps people
with rheumatoid arthritis, which inflames joints - low in arachidonic acid,
low fat, with fish oil supplements. I'm not sure why low-fat would be
anti-inflammatory, but 2 possible reasons: long term, a low fat diet
decreases insulin levels (see
http://www.lightlink.com/lark/comparison.html ),
and lower insulin would mean that arachidonic acid
is less converted into inflammatory compounds. Also, a low fat diet makes
the blood less "sticky" so there is better circulation in small tiny blood
vessels, so inflammatory compounds are cleared away from the area better.

Arachidonic acid is found only in non-plant foods, so a strict vegetarian
diet has none of it. Or, one can limit arachidonic acid by keeping track of
the animals foods one eats. So, has anybody found that going vegan helped
their allergies?

I don't have typical allergy symptoms - no runny nose or sneezing - i get
sinus congestion, inflammation which doesn't involve infection so far as I
know.

 




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