A Weightloss and diet forum. WeightLossBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » WeightLossBanter forum » alt.support.diet newsgroups » General Discussion
Site Map Home Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old February 5th, 2007, 12:00 AM posted to alt.support.diet
Patricia Heil
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 120
Default Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie


"Beverly" wrote in message
...


Caleb wrote:
I do not write these posts to irritate you or anyone else but to
support those going on their difficult journey.

I'd be happy to discuss any aspect of my approach to weight loss with
anyone who is asking a serious question. This topic is too important
to shut out voices that may be helpful.

Caleb


Isn't that why you setup the low-calorie group? That's why there are
several groups - low-carb, WW, low-cal, very low-cal etc. Posting in the
appropriate group doesn't require too much thought. Posting in the wrong
group is often looked upon as trolling.






Who was it said that the definition of stupidity is doing something, getting
a bad result, and doing the same thing expecting it to come out differently?
Sound like anybody we know?


  #42  
Old February 5th, 2007, 12:04 AM posted to alt.support.diet
LFM
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 199
Default Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie


"teachrmama" wrote in message
...


I agree with you that losing weight and regaining it is not a good way to
maintain a healthy weight or lifestyle. I certainly have no intentions of
following such a plan. I have come too far in my own efforts to want to
try a plan that is not a total change to a new way of eating. But I am
curious as to Caleb's reasons for the choices he is making, and how he
came to make the choices he has. Maybe he comes back here repeatedly
because he is learning new approaches each time he comes. I see him as
very polite--I haven't seen him trying to force his choices on anyone
else. I do hope that he will realize that if he continues with the
healthy eating choices he makes in the 100 days, he will be healthier than
if he regains and reloses the same weight time after time. But having
polite conversations with him does not mean that I am espousing his
choices, and I am not certain why it riles up some of the regular posters
here. I find that odd.



I don't know how long you've been around ASD - but if you realize that the
long term regular posters have something seriously against this guy, you
should take that into consideration. Especially when you realize it is the
successful long term posters who are generally mild mannered and get on well
with most others.

You find it odd - you should think about it and realize that these people
might have a darned good reason for it.


  #43  
Old February 5th, 2007, 12:18 AM posted to alt.support.diet
Caleb
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 434
Default Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie

On Feb 4, 10:49 am, "teachrmama" wrote:
"determined" wrote in message

. ..





"teachrmama" wrote in message
...


"LFM" wrote in message
news


"teachrmama" wrote in message
...


Teachrmama - if you are truely interested in a dialog with this poster,
please take it to Alt.support.diet.low-calorie You will find very
little support of this poster in here


Actually, there are topics here that I do not enter opinions on because
they are of no interest to me. It is easy to just skip over them. I
understand that you feel great disdain for this poster, but you are not
required to read his posts, or any conversations that he is in. I always
respond respectfully to other posters, and do not feel that my
conversation with Caleb is violating any of this newsgroup's rules and
regulations. If you were standing behind me in the grocery store and I
were carrying on a conversation with Caleb, would you ask that we go to
McDonald's and discuss things, rather than conversing in a public place
you just happened to be in? With all due respect, that is how I feel you
are speaking to me here.


You know what? Caleb is nothing more than a troll... The fact that you
want to maintain a dialogue with a troll kind of hurts your own
credibility. It doesn't take a whole lot of knowledge of diet/health to
know that his approach is not healthy or effective at permanent weight
loss. If you can't figure that out for yourself, fine. But it leaves the
rest of us here who have seen him go through this countless times
absolutely flabbergasted and exasperated.


I agree with you that losing weight and regaining it is not a good way to
maintain a healthy weight or lifestyle. I certainly have no intentions of
following such a plan. I have come too far in my own efforts to want to try
a plan that is not a total change to a new way of eating. But I am curious
as to Caleb's reasons for the choices he is making, and how he came to make
the choices he has. Maybe he comes back here repeatedly because he is
learning new approaches each time he comes. I see him as very polite--I
haven't seen him trying to force his choices on anyone else. I do hope that
he will realize that if he continues with the healthy eating choices he
makes in the 100 days, he will be healthier than if he regains and reloses
the same weight time after time. But having polite conversations with him
does not mean that I am espousing his choices, and I am not certain why it
riles up some of the regular posters here. I find that odd.



Teachrmama -- I endorse totally what you are saying. I do not want to
regain the weight and I sure hope I don't. But I am learning new
techniques each time I try this. Rather like stepping into the same
stream twice -- things change.

I also try not to be negative towards the efforts of others. The
weight loss journey is difficult and long for others and negative
comments do not help at all.

I think the only times I have been negative to others were the times I
was flamed by others.

Yours truly,

Caleb

  #44  
Old February 5th, 2007, 12:47 AM posted to alt.support.diet
SFrunner
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 241
Default Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie

On Feb 4, 3:00 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote:
"Beverly" wrote in message

...







Caleb wrote:
I do not write these posts to irritate you or anyone else but to
support those going on their difficult journey.


I'd be happy to discuss any aspect of my approach to weight loss with
anyone who is asking a serious question. This topic is too important
to shut out voices that may be helpful.


Caleb


Isn't that why you setup the low-calorie group? That's why there are
several groups - low-carb, WW, low-cal, very low-cal etc. Posting in the
appropriate group doesn't require too much thought. Posting in the wrong
group is often looked upon as trolling.


Who was it said that the definition of stupidity is doing something, getting
a bad result, and doing the same thing expecting it to come out differently?
Sound like anybody we know?- Hide quoted text -



The definitely of "Insanity" is doing something over and over again,
expecting different results.



  #45  
Old February 5th, 2007, 01:35 AM posted to alt.support.diet
Caleb
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 434
Default Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie

On Feb 4, 11:03 am, Chris Braun wrote:
On 4 Feb 2007 06:53:33 -0800, "Caleb" wrote:

One of the reasons (I think) some people react so viscerally to my
posts is that I have been able to adhere to a variety of techniques
that result in weight loss and then I stick to them long enough to
lose weight and be healthy, and I post the details of my journey as I
go along. I don't know anyone else here who has done so in such fine
detail on an ongoing basis.


Um, you might try googling my "Food & Exercise" posts for the last 4
years or so. I've posted fine detail of my diet and exercise on a
daily basis for all that time -- showing my journey to losing well
over 100 lbs. and MAINTAINING THAT LOSS.

My problem with your posts -- having seen you here now off and on for
many years -- is that you don't really share with newbies on the list
the fact that you do this once a year or so, lose a lot of weight, and
then gain it all back. Because this isn't obvious to the newbies,
many are attracted to your approach because of its apparent success.
Few of these people, though, would deliberately choose a diet approach
that had no demonstrated success in keeping weight off. I think what
concerns many of us is that you present yourself as an expert without
actually having achieved what most of us would call success at weight
loss.

Maybe you would have weighed 500 lbs by now if you didn't do this
annually, so to that extent I guess you could call your method a
proven approach to weight maintenance (though it looks like the
average is creeping up a bit). But I doubt it's what most people are
hoping to accomplish.

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004


Chris - I applaud your weight loss! I probably have told you that
before. That's great!

But there are many, many roads to Rome and the one you took worked
for. Great again about your success! But you cannot declare by fiat
that no other methods work. (Or you can, but it is nonsensical to do
so.)

Also, a lot of people want to lose weight fairly rapidly - indeed, a
lot of people have to lose weight or suffer bad medical consequences.
I think it would be very inappropriate to tell them, "No - you can't
use these methods to lose weight because I am not sure how you will
maintain your weight loss!" I think you would never say that, but
that's the sense I get from reading your posts. I sure am an
enthusiastic supporter of those who do lose weight, pretty much
however their method.

My approach is very middle of the road - a 1000 to 1200 calorie a day
diet long enough until it's successful. This is the approach that
many, many physicians recommend to their clients. There is enough of a
weight loss to maintain motivation, and I like emphasizing a certain
time period because it's easier for me to stay on task for a period of
time.

Life is complicated for everyone - there will never be any more
Renaissance people, people who know everything there is to know. But
we compartmentalize our ignorance somewhat. (Okay, my computer works -
it's magic. These little electrons go zapping around and words appear,
etc. I drive over bridges but don't know exactly how the bridges are
built, how they're tested for stress, etc.) If I can find techniques
that help me do the things - especially the important things -- I want
to do, then I am happy with that. And I am happy with some of the
simple techniques and insights that have come my way.

I tend to be a "glass half-full" kind of person (and I'm nothing like
VP Cheney, I hope). Especially I am optimistic now about this matter
of weight loss, and I know what has to be done for me to accomplish it
my way.

I sure hope that people wanting to lose weight are able to check with
their primary care provider or other medical provider regarding
advice. That sure beats anonymous health advice on the internet by
people who may or may not know what they are talking about and sure as
heck don't know much about the people reading the advice they give out
so freely.

Our stance should be one of support rather than vitriol, humility
rather than arrogance. There are too many cock-sure people in the
world who have little reason to be that way. Let's let a thousand
flowers bloom!

Anyway, just my thoughts on these matters.

Yours,

Caleb

  #46  
Old February 5th, 2007, 01:51 AM posted to alt.support.diet
Caleb
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 434
Default Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie

On Feb 4, 11:01 am, "teachrmama" wrote:
"Caleb" wrote in message

ups.com...



On Feb 4, 6:14 am, "Beverly" wrote:
janice wrote:
On 3 Feb 2007 14:03:54 -0800, "Caleb" wrote:


On Feb 2, 9:56 pm, "SFrunner" wrote:
On Feb 2, 9:30 pm, "


wrote:
On Feb 1, 3:37 pm, "Caleb" wrote:


This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join
alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet
and
am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite
well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe
(hopefully) longer.


If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about
losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see
them there!


Yours,


Caleb


Day 32 - 19 pounds gone


Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in
the
last week. Thanks.


Please don't. If you want to really know, Google his posts from past
years. It's always the same and some of us are sick and tired of the
BS.


SFRunner -- May I suggest you use your block sender button if you
don't like my posts?


This "some of us are sick and tired" sounds quite childish and makes
use of a logical fallacy called "the band wagon effect."


Seems to me that some people are very, very quick to criticize
others.


Caleb


Caleb - ISTR that it was you who started asd.low-calorie for the very
reason that people here were not able to relate to your approach to
dieting and weight loss.


Surely then it's not unreasonable to expect you to restrict your
postings to that group if you want to continue repeating your 100 day
regime.


janice


I agree, janice.


Caleb,
I always tried to be civil in my replies to you. But I find it very hard
to
understand why someone would want to continue on the yo-yo diet path as
long
as you have. You may contend that it's healthier than remaining
overweight
but I'll suggest that it's healthier to work to maintain that weight
loss.


Isn't your weight at the beginning of this cycle higher than it was in
previous attempts? IIRC your previous highs were in the 240 range and I
believe it's 265 this time. You indicate your goal weight is 200. If
that's correct then you're trying to lose 65 pounds in 100 days and that
isn't considered a healthy weightloss rate. Your previous choice of food
during your 100 days wasn't real healthy either. I seem to recall it
contained a lot of tuna or sardines and cabbage soup. A few of the
exercises you chose weren't considered exactly safe. I'm referring to
carrying and swinging weights while walking.


You're a well educated man but you fail to see the problems associated
with
your diet choices. As many others in the group have suggested you might
want to use the group you setup for this type of dieting as it's not well
received in this type of group. In the past you preached your diet to
many
who were just starting their weightloss journey and were eager to grab
onto
anything that would allow rapid weight loss instead of choosing a method
that would allow them to lose at a sensible rate and have a much better
chance of maintaining their weightloss. There are many health risks
associated with a rapid weightloss. You might want to consider these
risks
against your yo-yo diet plan.


Beverly
177/142/~140 SINCE 1996


I guess one reason I'm cheerful is that weight loss is straightforward
-- especially if one chooses an effective approach and sticks with
it.


There are a variety of reasons not to stick to an effective approach,
and these reasons include people telling you that your approach is
stupid, that it will not work, that it flies in the face of accepted,
methods, etc., etc., etc.


Such statements are too often toxic to those trying to lose weight and
to get themselves healthier in a variety of ways. The old line --
"everybody knows" -- has been proven wrong time and again. Everybody
just doesn't know effective and accurate methods. Going through some
of the inaccurate advice I have heard on this list -- even from those
who were apparently quite respected here -- would not be useful.


If you don't like what I am saying, you can employ a killfile/block
sender option.


I hope that our ends are the same -- to be healthier and to support
others as they continue in the long and difficult journey to health.


A thousand roads lead to health -- or at least a lot of roads do.


Actually, I feel very good about the methods I have used. Almost every
single time I have tried this approach I have lost large amounts of
weight and I have done so without much emotional turmoil. No second
guessing, half-way measures.


You probably are aware how difficult it is for many people to lose
significant amounts of weight. Many, many try and most don't make it.
The general approached I take clearly have effectively worked for me
in the past and they are working for me again. They will work this way
in the future. While people may not want to employ them, perhaps one
or two of the techniques might be useful. And if not then this might
be a demonstration that not every posting is helpful to every single
reader.


I think several of my views (e.g., ignoring the distractive and
possibly bad advice of others, doing what works for you regardless of
shrill criticism by others, being "good enough for long enough" to
work meaningful health change, etc.) are not common here but surely
will be helpful to those trying to lose weight. Not only can too many
cooks spoil the broth, but too many people giving advice can lead
people to maintaining their extra poundage.


One of the reasons (I think) some people react so viscerally to my
posts is that I have been able to adhere to a variety of techniques
that result in weight loss and then I stick to them long enough to
lose weight and be healthy, and I post the details of my journey as I
go along. I don't know anyone else here who has done so in such fine
detail on an ongoing basis. I also have stuck with my plan (e.g., I am
not going to try new diets as larger varieties of food make me eat
more, I am not going to boost my daily calorie intake in the unproved
and false expectation that eating more calories will allow me to lose
more weight, etc.) and perhaps that has irritated others who want to
give advice.


But a lot of the time the words that should come out of our keyboards
should be: "Hey, that's terrific!" Well done! Keep it up! You're doing
great!" And words such as that are too rare from some of the
Usenetters here. We find flaws in the approaches of others and demean
the intentions and progress that others make IF IT DOESN'T COMPORT TO
OUR OWN NARROW STANDARDS OF WHAT PROGRESS IS.


I do not write these posts to irritate you or anyone else but to
support those going on their difficult journey.


I'd be happy to discuss any aspect of my approach to weight loss with
anyone who is asking a serious question. This topic is too important
to shut out voices that may be helpful.


You're right about the fact that losing weight is not that difficult, Caleb.
It really isn't. That's why some of these weight loss companies are
thriving. They depend on people eating their prepackaged, low calorie
meals--and the pounds fly off. It isn't the losing that is the difficult
part of the proposition--it's keeping the weight off. That is the part of
your plan that I have not seen you talk about yet. I would be interested in
knowing how you plan to maintain your weight loss once you reach your goal.
For me, I am still in the process of losing weight, but I know that once I
get to goal, I will need to continue to keep watch on how much I eat, and
will need to continue with my physical activities to maintain my weight.
There is no option to go back to the way I ate before.


Teachrmama -

I agree with you about this weight-loss thing. There are two aspects
to it, I think:
1. Weight loss, and
2. Weight loss management.

I think I'm pretty good at systematic weigh loss now. I used to be
fairly good at maintenance but then I hurt my back and required
surgery. Before then I would run long distances, probably completed 10
marathons, etc. With the removal of disk L5-S1, my jogging days were
over. And so in 1999 my weight reached 272 pounds (I think). And it
hit me on a trip to my physician that if I were good for the next
hundred days, I would be a hell of a lot healthier. (The trip to the
doc was about my 23rd wedding anniversary.) I also realized that 100
days from that point would take me to the day before Thanksgiving. I
penciled it out, realized what I had to do, and I did it. I lost about
50 pounds in that time. I've done that several times since then.

I haven't been as good at weight loss management. My plans now are to
take my scale downstairs after I reach 200 pounds and weigh myself
every night before dinner. And if I go over a five pound limit (such
as 205), to immediately return to a vigorous weight loss regimen. (You
can take a look at the "hacker's diet" on Wikipedia for one successful
approach to this conundrum.) I too have to cut down the calories. Also
I know that I can't do the kind of heavy exercise I used to do,
although I did just come back from three and a half hours of heavy
snowshoeing and I feel great!

Seems to me that if I had a neighbor who was a skilled plumber but a
lousy gardener, I probably would ask about plumbing matters, such as
repairing a leaking faucet. And so would a lot of other people who
wanted faucets that don't drip. (There is a great quote I remember
from grad school: "If a society prizes philosophy above plumbing,
we're going to have pipes that leak and ideas that don't hold water!"
Seems to me that if we emphasize generalities and denigrate specific
methods, we will employ a lot fewer successful methods.)

Anyway, that's my history - so far!

Yours truly,

Caleb

  #47  
Old February 5th, 2007, 01:59 AM posted to alt.support.diet
teachrmama
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 338
Default Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie


"LFM" wrote in message
news

"teachrmama" wrote in message
...


I agree with you that losing weight and regaining it is not a good way to
maintain a healthy weight or lifestyle. I certainly have no intentions
of following such a plan. I have come too far in my own efforts to want
to try a plan that is not a total change to a new way of eating. But I
am curious as to Caleb's reasons for the choices he is making, and how he
came to make the choices he has. Maybe he comes back here repeatedly
because he is learning new approaches each time he comes. I see him as
very polite--I haven't seen him trying to force his choices on anyone
else. I do hope that he will realize that if he continues with the
healthy eating choices he makes in the 100 days, he will be healthier
than if he regains and reloses the same weight time after time. But
having polite conversations with him does not mean that I am espousing
his choices, and I am not certain why it riles up some of the regular
posters here. I find that odd.



I don't know how long you've been around ASD - but if you realize that the
long term regular posters have something seriously against this guy, you
should take that into consideration. Especially when you realize it is
the successful long term posters who are generally mild mannered and get
on well with most others.

You find it odd - you should think about it and realize that these people
might have a darned good reason for it.


I don't doubt that you have a darn good reason for your choices. I'm just
not clear on why you think that gives you the right to tell me I shouldn't
talk to him either. THAT's the part that I find odd.




  #48  
Old February 5th, 2007, 02:04 AM posted to alt.support.diet
teachrmama
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 338
Default Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie


"Caleb" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 4, 10:49 am, "teachrmama" wrote:
"determined" wrote in message

. ..





"teachrmama" wrote in message
...


"LFM" wrote in message
news


"teachrmama" wrote in message
...


Teachrmama - if you are truely interested in a dialog with this
poster,
please take it to Alt.support.diet.low-calorie You will find very
little support of this poster in here


Actually, there are topics here that I do not enter opinions on
because
they are of no interest to me. It is easy to just skip over them. I
understand that you feel great disdain for this poster, but you are
not
required to read his posts, or any conversations that he is in. I
always
respond respectfully to other posters, and do not feel that my
conversation with Caleb is violating any of this newsgroup's rules and
regulations. If you were standing behind me in the grocery store and
I
were carrying on a conversation with Caleb, would you ask that we go
to
McDonald's and discuss things, rather than conversing in a public
place
you just happened to be in? With all due respect, that is how I feel
you
are speaking to me here.


You know what? Caleb is nothing more than a troll... The fact that
you
want to maintain a dialogue with a troll kind of hurts your own
credibility. It doesn't take a whole lot of knowledge of diet/health to
know that his approach is not healthy or effective at permanent weight
loss. If you can't figure that out for yourself, fine. But it leaves
the
rest of us here who have seen him go through this countless times
absolutely flabbergasted and exasperated.


I agree with you that losing weight and regaining it is not a good way to
maintain a healthy weight or lifestyle. I certainly have no intentions
of
following such a plan. I have come too far in my own efforts to want to
try
a plan that is not a total change to a new way of eating. But I am
curious
as to Caleb's reasons for the choices he is making, and how he came to
make
the choices he has. Maybe he comes back here repeatedly because he is
learning new approaches each time he comes. I see him as very polite--I
haven't seen him trying to force his choices on anyone else. I do hope
that
he will realize that if he continues with the healthy eating choices he
makes in the 100 days, he will be healthier than if he regains and
reloses
the same weight time after time. But having polite conversations with
him
does not mean that I am espousing his choices, and I am not certain why
it
riles up some of the regular posters here. I find that odd.



Teachrmama -- I endorse totally what you are saying. I do not want to
regain the weight and I sure hope I don't. But I am learning new
techniques each time I try this. Rather like stepping into the same
stream twice -- things change.


Good. I'm glad to hear that. For me, I have found that extremely low
calorie approaches lead only to overindulgence when I do begin to eat
"normally" again. So the approach I have chosen is to eat the way I want
to eat for the rest of my life, and to exercise the way I want to exercise
for the rest of my life. Then I never have to go "off a diet." I'm set.
And can make minor adjustments here and there as needed. I do hope you have
chosen an approach this time that will become a lifestyle rather than just a
diet. =c)



  #49  
Old February 5th, 2007, 02:08 AM posted to alt.support.diet
The Queen of Cans and Jars
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 399
Default Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie

teachrmama wrote:

I'm just not clear on why you think that gives you the right to tell me I
shouldn't talk to him either.


Talk to him all you want - in the group that he set up for talking about
it. Is it really all that hard to understand?
  #50  
Old February 5th, 2007, 02:15 AM posted to alt.support.diet
teachrmama
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 338
Default Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie


"Caleb" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 4, 11:01 am, "teachrmama" wrote:
"Caleb" wrote in message

ups.com...


snip


I do not write these posts to irritate you or anyone else but to
support those going on their difficult journey.


I'd be happy to discuss any aspect of my approach to weight loss with
anyone who is asking a serious question. This topic is too important
to shut out voices that may be helpful.


You're right about the fact that losing weight is not that difficult,
Caleb.
It really isn't. That's why some of these weight loss companies are
thriving. They depend on people eating their prepackaged, low calorie
meals--and the pounds fly off. It isn't the losing that is the difficult
part of the proposition--it's keeping the weight off. That is the part
of
your plan that I have not seen you talk about yet. I would be interested
in
knowing how you plan to maintain your weight loss once you reach your
goal.
For me, I am still in the process of losing weight, but I know that once
I
get to goal, I will need to continue to keep watch on how much I eat, and
will need to continue with my physical activities to maintain my weight.
There is no option to go back to the way I ate before.


Teachrmama -

I agree with you about this weight-loss thing. There are two aspects
to it, I think:
1. Weight loss, and
2. Weight loss management.

I think I'm pretty good at systematic weigh loss now. I used to be
fairly good at maintenance but then I hurt my back and required
surgery. Before then I would run long distances, probably completed 10
marathons, etc. With the removal of disk L5-S1, my jogging days were
over. And so in 1999 my weight reached 272 pounds (I think). And it
hit me on a trip to my physician that if I were good for the next
hundred days, I would be a hell of a lot healthier. (The trip to the
doc was about my 23rd wedding anniversary.) I also realized that 100
days from that point would take me to the day before Thanksgiving. I
penciled it out, realized what I had to do, and I did it. I lost about
50 pounds in that time. I've done that several times since then.

I haven't been as good at weight loss management. My plans now are to
take my scale downstairs after I reach 200 pounds and weigh myself
every night before dinner. And if I go over a five pound limit (such
as 205), to immediately return to a vigorous weight loss regimen. (You
can take a look at the "hacker's diet" on Wikipedia for one successful
approach to this conundrum.) I too have to cut down the calories. Also
I know that I can't do the kind of heavy exercise I used to do,
although I did just come back from three and a half hours of heavy
snowshoeing and I feel great!

Seems to me that if I had a neighbor who was a skilled plumber but a
lousy gardener, I probably would ask about plumbing matters, such as
repairing a leaking faucet. And so would a lot of other people who
wanted faucets that don't drip. (There is a great quote I remember
from grad school: "If a society prizes philosophy above plumbing,
we're going to have pipes that leak and ideas that don't hold water!"
Seems to me that if we emphasize generalities and denigrate specific
methods, we will employ a lot fewer successful methods.)


Wow. I'm sorry to hear about the back problems. Have you consulted an
expert in the area of exercise (or physical therapy) to find out what form
of exercise would be one you could follow regularly in spite of your injury?
I know you realize that physical activity is very important in maintaining a
healthy body.

Have you come up with a specific plan for maintenance, other than your 5
pound rule? Such as what foods you will eat in moderation, and which you
will eat rarely, etc. I know that being careful what foods I keep in the
house helps me a lot. And my teenage daughters are forming some very good
habits, too. Hopefully they will never have to lose weight--they will have
formed the habits that will help them maintain the proper weight, including
both eating and exercise choices.


 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My favorite calorie counter / weight loss program sandra General Discussion 2 May 2nd, 2006 11:36 PM
My favortie calorie counter / weight loss program sandra Weightwatchers 0 May 2nd, 2006 07:50 PM
Zero Calorie Diet Sodas: Good Or Bad For Weight Loss? ianmason General Discussion 1 June 15th, 2005 08:50 AM
Weight loss is more than calorie-counting reenum General Discussion 2 January 29th, 2005 08:39 PM
Weight Loss Diets with Negative Calorie Foods pcm19 General Discussion 1 October 8th, 2004 10:59 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 WeightLossBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.