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  #101  
Old November 17th, 2003, 09:59 AM
Miss Violette
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sorry it does with OE. It was, with the newest version only coming on when
I opened OE as I had told it not to be in the start up menu. I was frantic
as it really screws with the screenreader if OE and IM try to open at same
time. So I went through every preference turning things on and off, now, OE
is fine, IM is only on when I want it to be and all other programs wait to
be called as well, Lee, hope you get it worked out soon, nothing is so
frustrating as not being able to fix it when you have dealt with it before.
Joyce wrote in message
...
Thanks Lee, but AIM doesn't work like that ... it isn't a default for

anything.
There is a box that asks if you want it to start up automatically. I have

that
unchecked, still tries to start on it's own. I'll figure it out someday.

g

Joyce


On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:45:13 GMT, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

Joyce,
to turn off the auto on aim uncheck the box that says you want aim as

your
default, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
news
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:39:57 -0800, Fred

wrote:



I know what you mean about the unwillingness to change. I keep trying
different mail/news readers but always come back to OE6. I did change

my
browser to Mozilla and now Firebird only because IE6 refuses to work

most of
the time on this laptop. Can't get pages to load.

I use Netscape 7.x (which follows mozilla). I really like the Tabbed
browsing - now there was a GREAT UPGRADE. But I hate the search
function - I cannot find the links I want to edit them.

Yeah, great update except they changed where they hide the data files

....
such as
mail, preferences, address lists, etc. I found this out the hard way,

when making
the change over to the new computer Tuesday (yup, I have me a new toy

again). I
won't even venture to guess how many times I have pulled these files

from
one
computer and transferred them to another ... never once had a problem,

always has
been successful in not losing a single email. Not this time! I

finally
forced
things to do what I thought I wanted, on first inspection it looked

great.
When I
went in to answer emails I found that only addresses and stuff from

June
and
earlier survived the transfer. Makes absolutely no sense to me at all!

I
finally
ended up doing a quick hookup on the old puter yesterday (network

connection,
monitor, mouse and keyboard) - forwarded a few emails and printed out

address
book. It's working good enough now, but sure was frustrating at the

time.

And I can't figure out how to get thier popup stopper to work, can't

find
it
anywhere in the settings. Or how to turn off the automatic start for

AIM.
sigh
I suppose I'm better off waiting until I have the patience to play some

more with
it (heaven knows if that will ever happen).

Joyce





I do read threads in the order posted generally but would not mind
being able to read them otherwise - sometimes I just want to

quickly
see the new stuff.

I don't spend a lot of time in the newsgroups these days so reading

the
recent threads is the only way that I can keep up.

I also would like to be able to search INSIDE threads and not just

by
subject/author. And I do that by actually, going inside the

data-file
using some older Dos tools, like Buerg's List program and an older
search program (again, showing my age and my tool choices!)

IIRC, the FIND option in Agent will also search the messages but I

think
that they have to be downloaded first. Otherwise it only searches the

author
and subject. OE is the same way. I guess they are searching the cache

and
not the newsserver. I have a subscription to Teranews and will

download
a
block of messages if I am searching for something in the body of one

of
the
messages. I like agent for background searching and downloading mp3

files
when I have time to search. When I was not working last year I spent

a
lot
of time searching the mp3 newsgroups. Now that I am working again, my

time
online is limited. I still have about 12 newsgroups and a bunch of

yahoo
groups to keep up with so I don't use agent that much these days.

So what does Agent 2 have to offer besides and UPGRADE PRICE! (G)

I
do have Agent's newsgroup activated but only go there when I have a
question - like how to move an email (accidently generated by

hitting
the wrong "reply" button) to a newgroup - can't be done other than

by
cutting-pasting but unless you can find the thread, it is out of
place)

Take a look he http://www.forteinc.com/agent/roadmap.php. One of

the
enhancements will be supporting multiple Pop3 and news servers. That

will
certainly attract people.

The multi-newsgroups - yup. But it works now, as I wrote to Joyce -
only manually. I have TheBat which does multiple pop3.

I think my email reader, TheBat, is also close or has offered
upgrades....

I did create another identify yesterday and added another webpage

for
pics.

Which reminds my - I have to record it and its password for

posterity.

Keeping up with passwords drives me nuts, too. Got a good tool for
that? (G)

Do a google search on "Password manager". There are a bunch out

there. I
don't use them. I have an e-mail message that I use to keep track of

my
IDs
and passwords. I use a select number of passwords so if I forget one

it
does
not take me long to go through the likely candidates. Not the most

secure
but it works for me.

That would work. The problem is sometimes I create them for a site on
the fly and don't remember them. I have no idea who to get into Yahoo
groups - I just get the email from the lists I'm already on!!! (G)

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:30:29 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

Yes I saw that Angelfire was back again. It was also good to hear

that
the
problem was not with AT&T or Covad directly. Website hacking is

become a
real problem out there.

Have you tried Agent 2.0 yet? I'm looking for a newsreader that

allows me
to
filter out cross posts. The trolls are getting more and more

active.
I
don't
like agent because of the way it displays threads. I like having

the
newest
threads at the top of the screen not the bottom. Something

unnateral
about
working up the screen to read the threads. Or do you just read the

oldest
first?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Since all the servers number differently, I figured I would stay

with
the cis news-servers. I have enough trouble moving between the
desktop and laptop and keeping things straight between them -

moving
the right data files and indexes but not things like Window

size,
fonts, and placements. I use Agent and think I have it down -

as
long
as I remember to move stuff back when I'm done.

And in case you did not read it, Angelfire is now working again.

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:12:04 GMT, "Laura"


wrote:

Mayhem? That's how I went from posting as LJ to Laura. g My

cable
company
was sold and the new company does not provide news server. I

used
LJ
as
my
identity in some of the male oriented techy groups that I was

hanging
out
in.

For text newsgroups I don't see much difference between the

worldnet
"i"
news server when I am using dial up vs when I am on broadband.

The
real
difference comes into play when you are dealing with the binary
newsgroups.
Download speeds are capped at roughly 2x dial up speed hence

the
similar
speeds.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Actually, that is the ftp program that I registered in order

to
upload
to AT&T. I did find this newsgroup on the AT&T server, too

but
had
already used cis and stick with it - that way my threads are

not
lost
in the mayhem between servers.

CIS has a proprietary upload program and there is NO access

to
upload
using faster services, like dsl. At least, the last time I

inquired
that was the case - it was very slow and I was limited to how

many
pics I could upload at each session.

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:08:12 GMT, "Laura"


wrote:

What restrictions are your referring to? You can upload to

your
AT&T
accounts while on dsl. Not sure if you know about that. You

do
need
a
ftp
program that supports ssl like ws_ftp Pro. You can also use

the
worldnet
newsgroups to post here or did you already figure that out?

(I
see
you
are
using your cis account to post)

As for cascading set of links, check out the

worldnet.help.pwp.*
newsgroups.
Some really talented people in those groups can help you

figure
it
out.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Yes, I just have not figured out a cascading set of links

and
I've
loaded both the main and one or two others with a long

series
of
"slides" altho, I have really had to reduce the image size
(quality)
to even fit them on. And while I have a cis account, I

can
only
upload via modem due to their restrictions - forget it!

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:45:59 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

Don't forget that you could have 1 main "home" page but

use
the
other
5
accounts to store your pictures, etc. Just point your

html
page
to
the
images on the other accounts. That allows you to combine

the
6
accounts
for
a total of 60 mb of storage space.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, creating and uploading files to a home page can

be a
lifetime
occupation. I have, I think, FIVE home pages on AT&T.

Each
has
to
be
associated with a separate "account" for family members

or
alter-egos.
But getting the stuff organized and then uploading

takes
time.
Sneaking one new photo is not bad on is not hard. I'm

still
trying
to
organize my April trip down to the Anasazi territory.

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:15:57 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

I gotta see about a home page. This needs to be my

new
project,
right?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Time for a new photo?

I can't remember - someone posted it for you

somewhere?

I keep trying to take a good photo but

ehh............
Oh,
you
probably have a huge home page with your new

broadband
service.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:38:15 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Yo Fred, I lost another 15 or so pounds after that

photo,
so
that
is
really
good news.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, before, a little bit nuts, now, a more

healthy
ECCENTRIC
(G)

The photo you posted showed you are a-okay!

Don't
sweat
it
except
when earning activity points (G)

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:29:50 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:


"~ Wysong ~" wrote in

message
...


** I now weigh 164 lbs and I can tell you that

it's
NOT
THIN.
Thin
for
a
women of around 5'6" is 125 lbs or so. That's

the
size
most
men
want.

Well. I am not 5'6". Which is why weight

watchers
allowed
me
a
goal
of
164.
My bones show. The veins in my arms show. I am

thin
enough
for
me.
My
size 10 clothes are nicely loose. Thanks for

the
reality
check.
Most
men
are influenced by the media, as are most women.

You
reminded
me
how
proud I
am to be eccentric.

Lesanne
(365)247/160/164















  #102  
Old November 18th, 2003, 04:47 AM
Brenda Hammond
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"Fred" wrote in message
...
Nikon Coolpix 950 - now about 3 years old (older?) What I really like
is that it uses regular size AA batteries and I have sets rechargeable
ones. I should probably UP the resolution so that the images are even
better for printing - altho, posting on the web requires that they be
reduced substantially in quality to fit them on a web site. Also the
more resolution, the longer they take to store to the compact flash
card.


I bet the Nikon was one of the better cameras three years ago. I know DH
would like to have one of the new Nikon CoolPix cameras, but we have two
right now that we're happy with, so will hold off a few more years, then
maybe get a Nikon.


I like it but I know there are better ones. It has a lot of settings
which I don't experiment with. I was much better equipped to override
the meter in my 35mm single lens reflex and could get lighting easier.
But it does make picture taking fun - instant results.


I don't experiment with all the settings on my camera either. Don't seem to
be able to find the time to spend figuring it all out. I just want to take
some half decent pictures. They do turn out quite well, for me just knowing
the basics about the camera and I'm satisfied with that at the moment.



The ruins were fascinating - there is something ageless and yet
ancient and powerful about them. There is a magic that is hard to
explain. Chaco Canyon is the one out in the open, not the cliff
dwellings that most people think about. I also loved the way there
were the occasional spurts of decoration in the "brick" patterns
(actually rock, not brick). Mesa Verde is the cliff dwellings and
some of them are incredible. I was looking at them before, and due to
the size and perspective, some of them look more like models and not
real buildings (G) Canyon de Chelly (pronounced SHAY) has the ruins
and working farms and orchards - that's the one we hiked through with
the water crossings and the native guide was required.


The pictures of the ruins were fascinating. What a feeling it must be to
stand there realizing that you're probably standing on the same spot that
someone else was thousands of years ago. Cool... The walls looked really
fantastic, amazing how someone cold build walls like that, so straight and
the corners so perfect, just with rock! DH's father is a bricklayer and
does walls, fireplaces, chimneys, etc. Although he has tools to do it with.
I'm sure there were no tools like that available back then, so it's even
more amazing!

Have you ever been to the ruins of Machu Picchu? I'd love to go there. It
sure looks beautiful up in the mountains like that. There are so many cool
things out there to see. Hope I get to experience some of them in person
some day rather than just by seeing pictures. I really do enjoy your
pictures Fred. Thanks again.



On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:57:14 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

More great pictures! Wow, I would like to see those old ruins in person,
they must have been something! What kind of digital camera do you have
Fred? I've got a Fuji FinePix 2650 and a Fuji FinePix 3800. Quite happy
with both.

My sister purchased an HP PhotoSmart 850 from us in July, nice little

camera
until someone spilt a mocha on it. I sent it away for repair, but it

can't
be fixed, so now she's buying an HP Photosmart 945 to replace that one.
Hope this one lasts longer, she's not very careful with her stuff.




  #103  
Old November 18th, 2003, 07:16 AM
Fred
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For the Nikon, I actually priinted out the manual and took it with me
on the Sierra trip hoping to find time in the evenings to read it -
never happened - Harry Potter was more interesting (G)

It is magical and eerie - seeing things standing that are that old.
And the mystery surrounding their abandonment just adds to it.

What is even more fascinating is that if you look, you see the larger
timbers - there are no trees of that size anywhere nearby - if I
recall, 30 or more miles away - how did they move them BACK then? No
horses or oxen - just men! Apparently, they cut them in one season
and let them dry to allow them to lose weight (like WW). Then moved
them the next year - still they weigh a lot.


Machu Picchu - we have talked about it. Some friends have been there
and loved it. Maybe some day....

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:47:56 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Nikon Coolpix 950 - now about 3 years old (older?) What I really like
is that it uses regular size AA batteries and I have sets rechargeable
ones. I should probably UP the resolution so that the images are even
better for printing - altho, posting on the web requires that they be
reduced substantially in quality to fit them on a web site. Also the
more resolution, the longer they take to store to the compact flash
card.


I bet the Nikon was one of the better cameras three years ago. I know DH
would like to have one of the new Nikon CoolPix cameras, but we have two
right now that we're happy with, so will hold off a few more years, then
maybe get a Nikon.


I like it but I know there are better ones. It has a lot of settings
which I don't experiment with. I was much better equipped to override
the meter in my 35mm single lens reflex and could get lighting easier.
But it does make picture taking fun - instant results.


I don't experiment with all the settings on my camera either. Don't seem to
be able to find the time to spend figuring it all out. I just want to take
some half decent pictures. They do turn out quite well, for me just knowing
the basics about the camera and I'm satisfied with that at the moment.



The ruins were fascinating - there is something ageless and yet
ancient and powerful about them. There is a magic that is hard to
explain. Chaco Canyon is the one out in the open, not the cliff
dwellings that most people think about. I also loved the way there
were the occasional spurts of decoration in the "brick" patterns
(actually rock, not brick). Mesa Verde is the cliff dwellings and
some of them are incredible. I was looking at them before, and due to
the size and perspective, some of them look more like models and not
real buildings (G) Canyon de Chelly (pronounced SHAY) has the ruins
and working farms and orchards - that's the one we hiked through with
the water crossings and the native guide was required.


The pictures of the ruins were fascinating. What a feeling it must be to
stand there realizing that you're probably standing on the same spot that
someone else was thousands of years ago. Cool... The walls looked really
fantastic, amazing how someone cold build walls like that, so straight and
the corners so perfect, just with rock! DH's father is a bricklayer and
does walls, fireplaces, chimneys, etc. Although he has tools to do it with.
I'm sure there were no tools like that available back then, so it's even
more amazing!

Have you ever been to the ruins of Machu Picchu? I'd love to go there. It
sure looks beautiful up in the mountains like that. There are so many cool
things out there to see. Hope I get to experience some of them in person
some day rather than just by seeing pictures. I really do enjoy your
pictures Fred. Thanks again.



On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:57:14 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

More great pictures! Wow, I would like to see those old ruins in person,
they must have been something! What kind of digital camera do you have
Fred? I've got a Fuji FinePix 2650 and a Fuji FinePix 3800. Quite happy
with both.

My sister purchased an HP PhotoSmart 850 from us in July, nice little

camera
until someone spilt a mocha on it. I sent it away for repair, but it

can't
be fixed, so now she's buying an HP Photosmart 945 to replace that one.
Hope this one lasts longer, she's not very careful with her stuff.




  #104  
Old November 18th, 2003, 03:23 PM
Brenda Hammond
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"Fred" wrote in message
...
For the Nikon, I actually priinted out the manual and took it with me
on the Sierra trip hoping to find time in the evenings to read it -
never happened - Harry Potter was more interesting (G)

It is magical and eerie - seeing things standing that are that old.
And the mystery surrounding their abandonment just adds to it.

What is even more fascinating is that if you look, you see the larger
timbers - there are no trees of that size anywhere nearby - if I
recall, 30 or more miles away - how did they move them BACK then? No
horses or oxen - just men! Apparently, they cut them in one season
and let them dry to allow them to lose weight (like WW). Then moved
them the next year - still they weigh a lot.


They would weight a lot, that is fascinating. Similar to the pyramids in
Egypt. I often wonder how they managed to move those huge stones around,
lots of manpower I suppose. My aunt has been to Egypt a few times and loved
it. She's a world traveller, has been everywhere, takes a big trip like
that at least every 6-8 weeks with her bridge buddies. She just got back
from a cruise somewhere in South America after spending a few weeks visiting
her son in Florida.

Machu Picchu - we have talked about it. Some friends have been there
and loved it. Maybe some day....


I know someone who had been, but I didn't know she had until after she
passed away and it was noted in the obituary that her daughter wrote. Her
daughter and I went to school together, funny I wasn't aware of it back
then, but then there was alot about this woman and things that she had
accomplished that many weren't aware of.


On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:47:56 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Nikon Coolpix 950 - now about 3 years old (older?) What I really like
is that it uses regular size AA batteries and I have sets rechargeable
ones. I should probably UP the resolution so that the images are even
better for printing - altho, posting on the web requires that they be
reduced substantially in quality to fit them on a web site. Also the
more resolution, the longer they take to store to the compact flash
card.


I bet the Nikon was one of the better cameras three years ago. I know DH
would like to have one of the new Nikon CoolPix cameras, but we have two
right now that we're happy with, so will hold off a few more years, then
maybe get a Nikon.


I like it but I know there are better ones. It has a lot of settings
which I don't experiment with. I was much better equipped to override
the meter in my 35mm single lens reflex and could get lighting easier.
But it does make picture taking fun - instant results.


I don't experiment with all the settings on my camera either. Don't seem

to
be able to find the time to spend figuring it all out. I just want to

take
some half decent pictures. They do turn out quite well, for me just

knowing
the basics about the camera and I'm satisfied with that at the moment.



The ruins were fascinating - there is something ageless and yet
ancient and powerful about them. There is a magic that is hard to
explain. Chaco Canyon is the one out in the open, not the cliff
dwellings that most people think about. I also loved the way there
were the occasional spurts of decoration in the "brick" patterns
(actually rock, not brick). Mesa Verde is the cliff dwellings and
some of them are incredible. I was looking at them before, and due to
the size and perspective, some of them look more like models and not
real buildings (G) Canyon de Chelly (pronounced SHAY) has the ruins
and working farms and orchards - that's the one we hiked through with
the water crossings and the native guide was required.


The pictures of the ruins were fascinating. What a feeling it must be to
stand there realizing that you're probably standing on the same spot that
someone else was thousands of years ago. Cool... The walls looked

really
fantastic, amazing how someone cold build walls like that, so straight

and
the corners so perfect, just with rock! DH's father is a bricklayer and
does walls, fireplaces, chimneys, etc. Although he has tools to do it

with.
I'm sure there were no tools like that available back then, so it's even
more amazing!

Have you ever been to the ruins of Machu Picchu? I'd love to go there.

It
sure looks beautiful up in the mountains like that. There are so many

cool
things out there to see. Hope I get to experience some of them in person
some day rather than just by seeing pictures. I really do enjoy your
pictures Fred. Thanks again.



On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:57:14 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

More great pictures! Wow, I would like to see those old ruins in

person,
they must have been something! What kind of digital camera do you

have
Fred? I've got a Fuji FinePix 2650 and a Fuji FinePix 3800. Quite

happy
with both.

My sister purchased an HP PhotoSmart 850 from us in July, nice little

camera
until someone spilt a mocha on it. I sent it away for repair, but it

can't
be fixed, so now she's buying an HP Photosmart 945 to replace that

one.
Hope this one lasts longer, she's not very careful with her stuff.





  #105  
Old November 21st, 2003, 07:06 PM
Joyce
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:26:26 GMT, "Laura" wrote:

There is also a setting in AIM to load it when you start windows. Under
Preferences, on the On/Off Tab uncheck the box that says "Start AIM when
windows starts". That might be setting that is overriding your change in
NS7.


Checked that last nite, the box is unchecked, AIM still loads when

Netscape is
opened. I have a seperate popup blocker running now, so it sqashes the

window in
it's tracks. g


Did you also check the AIM settings?


Ok, finally found it. I must have been totally brain dead ... had the option
turned off in AIM but still had the option turned *on* in the netscape
preferences. Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh!

Mozilla is very similar to Netscape 7. http://www.mozilla.org/ They both

are
written with the same Open source Gecko code. They also have another
application called Thunderbird (mail/news only) and Firebird (browser

only).
They all look and behave the same. Truely from the same family of

programs.
I think the decision to not support NS happened within the past year. Had

a
lot to do with the fact that AOL bought Netscape. Long term the plan is

to
have Thunderbird/Firebird be their primary products.


So are mozilla, thunderbird, firebird all owned by AOL now? I'm not an

AOL fan
myself ... but if they work, I'm willing to give them a try. And which of

the
three do you think is better?


Only Netscape is owned by AOL and I think they are letting it die a slow
death. Mozilla is a combined browser/mail/news in one program similar to the
way Netscape is. Thunderbird and Firebird have the components separated into
2 programs (browser vs mail/news). I find the browsers very similar since
they are both gecko based. Also similar to NS7. I haven't really used their
mail or news programs yet. Still stuck with OE. One reason for trying the
Thunderbird/Firebird pair is this seems to be the direction the Mozilla org
is going with their product. Still experimental and under development.


I'll check all three of them out, see what I like. For some reason I am recalling
that my son is using Mozilla - not positive though. He and I both tried Opera,
both had problems with it eventually freezing up our systems. I don't know if he
went back to it or not when he built his new computer. I only tried OE once, but
still avoid it as long as I can. Most viruses seem to be dependant on OE - even
running my virus program, it's still a good enough reason for me to stick with
what I've always had. g

Joyce
  #106  
Old November 21st, 2003, 07:16 PM
Joyce
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Oh yeah, I have come up with some rather silly colored eyes when trying to get rid
of the red. My dark eyed daughter looks rather silly with luminescent eyes ...
gave them kind of an eerie glow. I hope to figure it out someday, so far haven't
had too much patience in that department.

I've never heard of Thumbsplus before. Will do some searching around to see if
they have a trial version available. The cheap monster in me is tired of putting
money out for products I'm not thrilled with.

Joyce

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:00:21 -0800, Fred wrote:

What's nice about the red-correction is you can make it blue-eye,
brown, black, green or other even when that is NOT your intent! (G)

I've also wound up with what I will call cataract eye. Yup - not
simple. Thumbsplus use to have a simple red-eye correction. I'm not
sure about their recent offerings.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:48:14 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:22:10 -0800, Fred wrote:



On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:08:15 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:33:01 -0800, Fred wrote:

Join the "unwillingness to change club!"

Some of this upgrade stuff is driven by microsoft - how to make money
continually if you have nothing new (not necessarily improved) to
sell. The same with a lot of other software places now. I'm not sure
that I need the latest stuff in Paint Shop Pro but did upgrade. Now
there are tools that are completely beyond any digital stuff I will
ever and i mean EVER use.

LOL! That's the one program I upgraded recently, too. Not by my doing though,
daughter requested the new program - told me there was stuff there that she just
HAD to have. Uh huh, sure. I'm a pushover. g Came with a good deal though,
$30 rebate (I think) on the upgrade price. All I need for photo manipulation is
the crop button and resize capability... sometimes a red eye fix (which I am
finding rather difficult in version 8). I'm a simple person. g

You, too. Red Eye is entirely too complex. I should go over the
tutorials again, since they do show how to lighten dark areas and lots
of intricate fixes but much of it is very complex.


Yup. In one of the earlier versions, the red eye was simple ... select, click,
done. I just can't get the hang of it in 8. I can do the basic, but the eyes
keep coming out looking funky and fake. They've made it way too difficult. Now
I'll have to look into some other programs for ease of editing. My son likes
photo shop, I tried it long ago but for some reason *complex* is sitting in my
brain regarding that program also.

I do search out NEW and creative applications and particularly, like
utilities. I am willing to install and remove stuff like that.

I like that the new Agent will make using two News Servers easier.
But it can be done now but you have to manually create a separate
directory structure which is not that hard - now that I know how. I
see that they are going to Personalities - frankly, Eudora's
Personalities totally lost me - never could get it to work. Just let
me install my separate accounts for email and I'm happy.

I don't use two news servers, so probably won't need the updated Agent .. unless
there are some other valuable perks offered with it. On your advice, I did set up
the BAT for multiple email accounts, I just forget to run it. I have my main
email on netscape, only because I have tons of folders set up to save emails and I
couldn't figure out how to do that on BAT. But my other emails are on BAT, I just
forget to run the program. When things calm down, maybe I'll get in there and try
to figure things out again.

Well, I seem to stick with CIS for this place and one or two others
and use AT&T for their support newsgroups. But even the current
Agent can do that. I do have 3 email id's (ignoring the supplementary
AT&T ones I've created for their webspace)


I only use CIS, don't really have any need for another one. I have 3 emails ids
that I use for various purposes. I don't need constant access to the other 2 (one
is business, gets very little in email other than at tax time when the accountant
needs to bust my ears - but being able to access all from one program is so much
nicer than having to reopen Netscape each time I want to check the accounts.

Joyce


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Old November 21st, 2003, 07:20 PM
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LOL! Might not have been judgemental, but you still managed to get that shot off
.... didn't you. g I give the gal credit though. Had it been me, I probably
wouldn't even have attempted - for fear of the results.

I don't judge, and am constantly beating the same into my kids heads. I know how
I hated to be judged based solely on appearance. It's narrow minded and hurtful.
Had I been a judgemental person, there would have been a lot of wonderful and kind
people I never would known. Maybe it's easier for us since we've been there?

Joyce

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:06:18 -0800, Fred wrote:

Oh, you caught that one, huh! They actually warned about that tunnel
- what is not obvious is that in the middle of it a rock protrudes
upward and you have to squirm around it while crawling through the
tunnel. I just happened to be 'behind' that large woman and did
wonder if she would make it. Having lost weight, I was sympathetic to
her situation and I really try to not be judgmental.



On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:57:23 -0600, Joyce wrote:

I was able to check out both sets of photos late last night - absolutely
wonderful! I did get a kick out of the photo you took of the backside of a woman
trying to squeeze through a small doorway into an old building. I couldn't help
but wonder if she was going to fit. LOL! Evidentally she did, as your photos
further prove. G

Thanks for sharing!

Joyce



On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:41:52 -0800, Fred wrote:

I am not impatient and stop saying that! (G)

They are still there - including the Spring trip, too.

I was checking another upload batch and they just stop. I must have
either run out of space or stopped for some reason. It was a mixed
set of a bunch of mountain hikes. I may try to redo that and post the
link

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:35:08 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Oh shush! You men are always in such a hurry ... impatient li'l buggers. grin
I'll try and visit the sites this evening, if I'm allowed on the computer more
than a few minutes at a time. (as you can see by my sporadic posting throughout
today, that seems to be how things work in this house .. mom sits down, somebody
*needs* something). If they're moved, I'll hope you repost the new links so I can
take a peek.

Joyce


On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:57:05 -0800, Fred wrote:

Hey, slowpoke, use it or lose it (G)

I will not move anything today. But I may try to reorganize these
various links as Laura suggested, linking them from one master home
page. I have been shrinking the quality and size of the images to get
them to fit the space limitations. I would like to put the canada
series up but that is one large trip!!! (G)

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:26:58 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Just goes to prove you aren't a sneaky sort of guy... or we're just an extremely
attentive group of people. grin I haven't had a chance to look through your
pictures yet, but did get the site bookmarked. Now don't go moving it on me!

Joyce


On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:06:36 -0800, Fred wrote:

Sheesh, I thought I would sneak the link into this older thread.

Thanks. The digital camera is fun.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:01:03 -0800, "Deb in Northern California"
wrote:

Fred,

Gorgeous pics, thanks for sharing.

Debbie

"Fred" wrote in message
news:crhbrv47vm8piv0bo8qlmm4j5itbhjvg4n@4a x.com...
Okay, it was a fast job.....

http://fjk6515.home.att.net/jpg_EagleCapMap.htm

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:07:31 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .


On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:00:43 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, on Veteran's Day, Tues, I did do a hike and there was very
little snow, at least, none making the hike slippery like the one on
Sunday. The one I did on Tues, was the mountain that was the basis
for that odd series "Twin Peaks." It is very close to Seattle and
is
more the foothills - about 3,400 feet of UP hiking but the last rain
washed away all the icy snow that gets packed on the trail. Later
in
the year, I call it a vertical ICE RINK and sometimes use instep
crampons to prevent a bad fall. Depending on location, there is
from
a few inches to about a foot or a bit more. But more is expected
this
weekend so mountain hiking will be coming to an end until
cross-country skiing takes over. I will occasionally do snowshoeing
when the conditions for skiing are bad but prefer the x-country
skiing
some of it very backcountry.

The ICE RINK sounds dangerous, good thing you switch to skiing for
awhile.
I've never gone skiing or ice shoeing, but it sounds like fun and a
good
workout.

It can be which is why I use special equipment. I prefer it when it
is just dirt but when cabin fever sets in, I do it when the ski
conditions are poor and I want good exercise. I am less agressive
cross-country skiing than I use to be but still really enjoy the
backcountry.

I think I would prefer the ground being just dirt as well, but like you
say,
cabin fever could drive you nuts and getting outside does feel great,
even
if it does mean strapping on the crampons (I had to ask DH what these
were)
and going for a hike on the vertical ice rink!

I don't get more than a few hundred feet above sea level here, so no need
for all the safety equipment if out walking.


I will see what I can upload. I made a music, accompanied slide
show
of a bunch of different hikes but it is too large to upload to my
webpage.

I have been taking the digital camera on most hikes when I think
that
I may capture different friends or slightly different lighting or
color (Fall) but sometimes want to go a bit lighter in weight and
leave it home if it is a repeat hike. Maybe I should try posting my
Oregon backpack....

I'd love to see them and sure everyone else would too.

I will have to work on them and annotate them and then see what kind
of space I have on AT&T

Sounds good. We're hoping to get a web page together at some point (soon
as
we find time), and once that's done I'll try to get some pictures of our
area on there for everyone to see. I've got a few great pictures taken
years ago from the top of the Caren Range, looking out over the strait
toward Vancouver Island, then others looking across from the opposite
side
of the same mountain range, showing the inlets, Skookumchuk Rapids, etc.
The view from way up there is really something.



On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:38:12 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
There are NO revealing pics, at least, not on any website. (G)

Ah, you're hiding them away!


Those pictures are in the old shorts but carefully posed (G)

Besides, I really did not have much problems with those shorts -
they
were comfortable. And revealing problems were only when sitting
in
some positions.

Yeah, I can imagine... Anyway enough of that imagining... I
suppose
with
the winter weather moving in you don't get up into the mountains
much
this
time of the year. There is probably a fair amount of snow too. Do
you
take
pictures during every hike? I would really like to see more of
them
as
the
views from up in the mountains are beautiful. I probably will
never
get
to
do any hiking, at least not to the extent you do, so thoroughly
enjoy
your
pictures and imagining myself way up there on some mountain looking
down
on
everything below! What a rush that must be! On top of the world!!



On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:33:00 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

You'll have to post some more of your pictures soon again Fred,
the
last
ones were great! Just make sure that they are the ones of you
in
your
*new*
less revealing shorts! Or if you're brave you could post
pictures
of
you
in
the old more revealing ones and give us all a thrill!









 




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