Gastric Bypass

WW is the plan I have found that works the best *for me*. It still
takes work, but it's a lifestyle change and not a quick fix. I like
that about the program.

-L.

Yeah, at first I thought I'd be an easy way to stay skinny for life. Then
when I read what they have to do and what they can and can't eat, I came in
here for advice! I don't want to *have* to eat a certain way. If I want
dessert and lots to eat at Thanksgiving, I want to be able to eat it. GB
sounds like no fun. Being skinny isn't worth that to me. Am going to try WW
again soon as I get the nerve to join.

Thanks all for the advice.

Debbie

"Debbie" wrote in message
news:2N1Cg.10550$rd1.6293@trnddc01...

Yeah, at first I thought I'd be an easy way to stay skinny for life.

You must accept there is no EASY way except lifestyle change where eating
comes in. There is no magic herb or pills out there that allow you to eat
as usual and lose weight.

Then
when I read what they have to do and what they can and can't eat, I came
in here for advice! I don't want to *have* to eat a certain way.

Then you will remain obese and never attain a healthy lifestyle.

If I want
dessert and lots to eat at Thanksgiving, I want to be able to eat it.

Or do you want that dessert every day? Many of those on healthy diets allow
themselves "treats" on the holidays but I don't think that's what you really
want.

GB
sounds like no fun. Being skinny isn't worth that to me.

How about being a normal weight? No need to be skinny.

Am going to try WW
again soon as I get the nerve to join.

Or start to count calories and start losing even before you join up. Good
luck!

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 159 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height: 5'6" Age: 61
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Maybe I misunderstood Debbie and I apologize if that's the case...I see now
you were referring to gastric bypass...I should have know since I posted to
you earlier...My apologies for my previous post...GG

"Debbie" wrote in message
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WW is the plan I have found that works the best *for me*. It still
takes work, but it's a lifestyle change and not a quick fix. I like
that about the program.

-L.

Yeah, at first I thought I'd be an easy way to stay skinny for life. Then
when I read what they have to do and what they can and can't eat, I came
in here for advice! I don't want to *have* to eat a certain way. If I want
dessert and lots to eat at Thanksgiving, I want to be able to eat it. GB
sounds like no fun. Being skinny isn't worth that to me. Am going to try
WW again soon as I get the nerve to join.

Thanks all for the advice.

Debbie

Thx for the apology Gary, although no offense was taken. ;-)

Debbie

The first 3/4 of this post I was talking about GB, LKW.

Debbie



"Debbie" wrote in message
news:2N1Cg.10550$rd1.6293@trnddc01...

Yeah, at first I thought I'd be an easy way to stay skinny for life.

You must accept there is no EASY way except lifestyle change where eating
comes in. There is no magic herb or pills out there that allow you to eat
as usual and lose weight.

Then
when I read what they have to do and what they can and can't eat, I came
in here for advice! I don't want to *have* to eat a certain way.

Then you will remain obese and never attain a healthy lifestyle.

If I want
dessert and lots to eat at Thanksgiving, I want to be able to eat it.

Or do you want that dessert every day? Many of those on healthy diets
allow themselves "treats" on the holidays but I don't think that's what
you really want.

GB
sounds like no fun. Being skinny isn't worth that to me.

How about being a normal weight? No need to be skinny.

Am going to try WW
again soon as I get the nerve to join.

Or start to count calories and start losing even before you join up. Good
luck!

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 159 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height: 5'6" Age: 61
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Debbie" wrote in message
news:nz5Cg.10617$qw5.7798@trnddc06...
The first 3/4 of this post I was talking about GB, LKW.

Debbie


Sorry, I misunderstood.

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 159 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height: 5'6" Age: 61
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Tis ok. I felt I was being attacked for something I had already realized was
the wrong way to do things. I'm WW all the way now. XOXO

Debbie


The first 3/4 of this post I was talking about GB, LKW.

Debbie


Sorry, I misunderstood.

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 159 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height: 5'6" Age: 61
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am back from another trip . Glad you decided to try something else. I am not hungry and in a constant crappy mood, basically my food intake is quite liberal on maintenance, because I exercise. This past week I have been recording my food intake and exercise, have lost a few pounds that I picked up in Disney world and have been averaging around 2000 calories a day. If I were not exercising I would have to eat less, but if I were not losing the Disney weight I could have more than that. . I am lucky because my metabolism is busy and I am tall.

--
Leslie Arnim

"Debbie" wrote in message news:7AHAg.6310$ee1.4210@trnddc06...
thx Lesanne. LOL. Just looking at what some of those ppl said they had to eat sounded like a deprivation diet to me! I don't want to not be able to eat *sweets* ever again. And they kept saying something about they couldn't have sugar either. I remember you from before, Lesanne. So you're not hungry and in a constant crappy mood cause you've cut so far back on your food intake? I think I could lose down to 160 without a problem, but I'd really like to be in the 130 range. So that's like 74 pds. I have only been at 130 a coupla times in my life (once during a divorce, and once when a teenager and once with diet pills and exercise), so I don't have a lot of confidence I can do it and sustain it. I think I can do it, just sustaining it is my worry.

Thanks again for examples. That's what I wanted to hear.


Debbie

Debbie:
I will go you one better than that and tell you what I have seen personally with gastric bypass. The most recent example was a woman who has been a dear friend of mine for years. She has battled her weight for as long as I have known her. The selling point for GBS as opposed to general lifestyle change is that it supposedly reduces the hunger people feel, and increases the feeling of fullness people get after eating smaller portions of food.
If a person is eating when they are not hungry already, this is not an advantage if you think about it logically. If you are overeating, you are almost certainly eating when not physiologically hungry. GBS is like cutting off both your hands to quit smoking. It is only effective if it stops the smoking long enough for a person to get over the bad cravings before they figure out how to smoke using their feet. If you remove the ability to overeat from a person who eats for emotional reasons, that person can either deal with the emotional reasons or find other ways to overeat. My friend is sucking on some high calorie drink or other all the time, has lost a total of about 30 pounds in the last year, and is still morbidly obese. The other two people I personally know who had GBS ? One is an alcoholic (thin and very very sick) the other is near a normal weight and has gone through some major lifestyle change and therapy similar to what I did to lose the 200 pounds I lost WITHOUT surgery. He eats pretty much like I do. I would suggest getting the diet you will have to follow after the surgery and going on that for a while. It is what you will have to do anyway. Then after four or five months on that decide if you want to permanently damage your body. I also suggest you get help with whatever it is that causes you to reach for food when you are not hungry. I know, I am not asking you to do something "easy". Those people pushing GBS aren't either, they are just salespeople.

--
Les

Debbie wrote:
Yeah, at first I thought I'd be an easy way to stay skinny for life. Then
when I read what they have to do and what they can and can't eat, I came in
here for advice! I don't want to *have* to eat a certain way. If I want
dessert and lots to eat at Thanksgiving, I want to be able to eat it.

With weight watchers, you can eat what you want as long as you count
the points. After a while, I found my desire to eat certain things
waned quite a bit. But if I want butter on my popcorn, I eat it, and
just count the points. I don't do it every day, or even every week,
but I still do it and enjoy it. The truth is - NOTHING tastes as good
as being thin feels! It *is* a lifestyle change. If I eat what I
want, when I want, I am 60 lbs overweight. I NEVER want to be there,
ever again. So I eat healthful foods that make me feel better and help
me attain my goal - THAT is more important to me than food. And THAT
is the decision you have to make - and stick to!

As for Thanksgiving, you could use that as one of your personal rewards
- just give yourself a day "off plan" and eat Thanksgiving dinner with
gusto. You might slow your loss, and pay for it later as a small gain,
but the next day is a new day and you can start on plan again. That's
the beauty of WW.

-L.

-L. wrote:

Debbie wrote:

Yeah, at first I thought I'd be an easy way to stay skinny for life. Then
when I read what they have to do and what they can and can't eat, I came in
here for advice! I don't want to *have* to eat a certain way. If I want
dessert and lots to eat at Thanksgiving, I want to be able to eat it.


With weight watchers, you can eat what you want as long as you count
the points. After a while, I found my desire to eat certain things
waned quite a bit. But if I want butter on my popcorn, I eat it, and
just count the points. I don't do it every day, or even every week,
but I still do it and enjoy it. The truth is - NOTHING tastes as good
as being thin feels! It *is* a lifestyle change. If I eat what I
want, when I want, I am 60 lbs overweight. I NEVER want to be there,
ever again. So I eat healthful foods that make me feel better and help
me attain my goal - THAT is more important to me than food. And THAT
is the decision you have to make - and stick to!

As for Thanksgiving, you could use that as one of your personal rewards
- just give yourself a day "off plan" and eat Thanksgiving dinner with
gusto. You might slow your loss, and pay for it later as a small gain,
but the next day is a new day and you can start on plan again. That's
the beauty of WW.

The thing I have found with celebration meals like this is that while I
*can* have what everyone else is pigging on, I don't often *want* all of
it! Where others gobble down a handful of mince pies and a slab of
cake, I'll have either a small slice of cake OR a mince pie. With it I
might have a small dollop of half fat creme fraiche rather than a great
big dollop of double cream.

I find I'm eating smaller portions of the treat foods, and wanting less
of them. This is the joy of WW: you CAN do it, but slowly it teaches
you to do it sensibly, and with control not gluttony.
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