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Hello. My husband and I are doing the LC diet and doing pretty good
so far. My dilema is... my daughter just turned 8. She is about
30 pounds or maybe 40 over weight. My hubby and I decided to have our
daughter go LC too. I am a little nervous about it and I know I am
unable to talk to the family doctor because he is ANTI low carb. UGH
We are making her take her vitamins and she loves the cheeses and
broccoli and cauliflower and of course the meat but I am a little
worried. Any advice?

Epileptic children seem to do quite well without carbs.

--
Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at
birth?


"Carolynne Rogers" wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 02:34:23 GMT, camilla wrote:

Hello. My husband and I are doing the LC diet and doing pretty good
so far. My dilema is... my daughter just turned 8. She is about
30 pounds or maybe 40 over weight. My hubby and I decided to have our
daughter go LC too. I am a little nervous about it and I know I am
unable to talk to the family doctor because he is ANTI low carb. UGH
We are making her take her vitamins and she loves the cheeses and
broccoli and cauliflower and of course the meat but I am a little
worried. Any advice?



Low carb for a child is ridiculous. Children need carbs and to restrict
her diet to an adult style low carb diet would be akin to child abuse.
Just ensure that she eats sensibly, remove excess carbs (candy, soda,
cookies, etc, from her diet) and ensure that she doesn't over eat and
gets daily exercise.

If she is already 30-40 pounds overweight, then your parenting skills
are negligible, I would personally already consider that child neglect,
if not abuse.

Carolynne

"camilla" wrote
Hello. My husband and I are doing the LC diet and doing pretty good
so far. My dilema is... my daughter just turned 8. She is about
30 pounds or maybe 40 over weight. My hubby and I decided to have our
daughter go LC too. I am a little nervous about it and I know I am
unable to talk to the family doctor because he is ANTI low carb. UGH
We are making her take her vitamins and she loves the cheeses and
broccoli and cauliflower and of course the meat but I am a little
worried. Any advice?


Yes, I have some advice. First of all, ignore people that challenge your
parenting skills. They probably have never raised children Secondly, you
may want to take her to a doctor that understands that she must lose weight
for her health and her self esteem. Her age is a time when kids can really
pudge up and kids at school can be mean. My daughter, a tiny 103 pound 5'2
adult had a chunky period at that age. She did grow out of it with my help.
I quit bringing cookies, pies, brownies and chips home, made lovely snack
dishes with black olives, cubed cheese, ham and whole wheat crackers.
Another thing I did was to keep stuff in the pantry and not out on the
counter. It's amazing what we don't eat when it isn't looking at us In my
own opinion, I would not put my children in ketosis without a doctor
supervising and his/her approval. You can get kids out of the house more
this time of the year. Just got my 4 year old into swimming lessons and we
will do ballet next month at the YMCA. Very inexpensive and good training.
FTR, my youngest (4) has food allergies. It's amazing how careful we can get
at the grocery when it means keeping our children healthy. Think of obesity
as a disease (it is) and how you are nurturing her with better food and
exercise. Good luck and keep us posted. BTW, my grown daughter is a low
carber but cheats a lot. She and I both have a 3 pound rule, gain 3 and get
back to basics, work out more. We are both carb intolerant

Cookie

Some ideas:

Milkshake NO
Yogurt Smoothie Sugar free YES!

Candy NO
Meringue Kisses (SF) YES!

Potato Chips NO
Veggie or Coconut Chips YES

Fried Chicken NO
Rotisserie Chicken YES

Baked Potato NO
Broccoli and Cheese YES

Pizza, why not? Order a thin crust with extra toppings but not very often

Soda Pop NO
Kool Aid made with Splenda YES

In article ,
camilla wrote:

Hello. My husband and I are doing the LC diet and doing pretty good
so far. My dilema is... my daughter just turned 8. She is about
30 pounds or maybe 40 over weight. My hubby and I decided to have our
daughter go LC too. I am a little nervous about it and I know I am
unable to talk to the family doctor because he is ANTI low carb. UGH
We are making her take her vitamins and she loves the cheeses and
broccoli and cauliflower and of course the meat but I am a little
worried. Any advice?

Well, I'm not a doctor, but I don't think any doctor would see anything
wrong with cutting out junk food and white flour. Maybe you could try
putting her on a more moderate LC plan, one that includes fruit and some
whole grains?

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 02:34:23 GMT, camilla
wrote:

Hello. My husband and I are doing the LC diet and doing pretty good
so far. My dilema is... my daughter just turned 8. She is about
30 pounds or maybe 40 over weight. My hubby and I decided to have our
daughter go LC too. I am a little nervous about it and I know I am
unable to talk to the family doctor because he is ANTI low carb. UGH
We are making her take her vitamins and she loves the cheeses and
broccoli and cauliflower and of course the meat but I am a little
worried. Any advice?

There is nothing inherently wrong in feeding your child on a good
mixture of proteins, vegetables, some nuts (assuming she's not
allergic to them) and so on. I'm *wary* of feeding children
artificial sweeteners (I'd prefer to simply wean children off needing
sweetened foods at all) as there are no studies on how safe they are
for developing systems.

My daughters were 2 and 3 years old when I began my LC journey. I
never pushed LC at them, but they (as children do) tended to follow my
lead in choosing foods and eat a much lower carb range than most
children their ages (they are now 8 and 9). They are fit and healthy,
tall for their ages (their Daddy is 6'8" tall so I guess that was to
be expected) and appropriate weights for their heights. They are both
keen on karate and swimming and except for some asthma (runs in the
family, and one of them was 7+ weeks premature which adds to the risk)
they have no health problems at all. In fact, they tend to shake off
childhood illnesses and infections somewhat faster than most of their
classmates!

You may find Dr Fred Pescatore's book "Feed Your Kids Well : How to
Help Your Child Lose Weight and Get Healthy" (which is available at
amazon.com) to be a helpful resource for you. Dr Pescatore has worked
with Dr Atkins and his book just might help you to put your mind at
rest.

Aramanth

alt.support.diabetes,
misc.health.diabetes,
alt.support.diet.low-carb,
alt.support.diabetes.uk

An interesting mix of newsgroups to crosspost to. Sharpen the
pitchforks and light the torches.
Lee Rodgers
Lowcarb Retreat http://www.lowcarb.org
CHAT http://www.lowcarb.org/parachat.html

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 05:19:09 GMT, (Lee Rodgers)
wrote:

alt.support.diabetes,
misc.health.diabetes,
alt.support.diet.low-carb,
alt.support.diabetes.uk

An interesting mix of newsgroups to crosspost to. Sharpen the
pitchforks and light the torches.

Nevermind. Just get out the tar and feathers for this Carolynne
person who keeps trying to stir up the oonko between groups. Or
invite her to the zoo to pet the lions. Later.

Lee Rodgers
Lowcarb Retreat http://www.lowcarb.org
CHAT http://www.lowcarb.org/parachat.html

Hello. My husband and I are doing the LC diet and doing pretty good
so far. My dilema is... my daughter just turned 8. She is about
30 pounds or maybe 40 over weight. My hubby and I decided to have our
daughter go LC too. I am a little nervous about it and I know I am
unable to talk to the family doctor because he is ANTI low carb. UGH
We are making her take her vitamins and she loves the cheeses and
broccoli and cauliflower and of course the meat but I am a little
worried. Any advice?

You might want to read "Sugarbusters for Kids". And find a new pediatrician.
This one obviously doesn't have your daughter's best interests at heart.
Otherwise he would have no problem with her giving up sugar, flour and starch.

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 5'7" 265/188/140
& hubby- 6' 310/199/180
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lcer09/my_photos

"Carolynne Rogers" wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 02:34:23 GMT, camilla wrote:

Hello. My husband and I are doing the LC diet and doing pretty good
so far. My dilema is... my daughter just turned 8. She is about
30 pounds or maybe 40 over weight. My hubby and I decided to have our
daughter go LC too. I am a little nervous about it and I know I am
unable to talk to the family doctor because he is ANTI low carb. UGH
We are making her take her vitamins and she loves the cheeses and
broccoli and cauliflower and of course the meat but I am a little
worried. Any advice?



Low carb for a child is ridiculous. Children need carbs and to restrict
her diet to an adult style low carb diet would be akin to child abuse.

I have a feeling that allowing an EIGHT year old to reach a situation where
she's already 30 or maybe 40 lbs overweight (don't know for sure?????) is
regarded as child abuse. If it's not, it bloody well SHOULD be.

Just ensure that she eats sensibly, remove excess carbs (candy, soda,
cookies, etc, from her diet) and ensure that she doesn't over eat and
gets daily exercise.

If she is already 30-40 pounds overweight, then your parenting skills
are negligible, I would personally already consider that child neglect,
if not abuse.

You and me both, and I'm GLAD it's not just me this time.

Beav

Carolynne Rogers wrote:
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| Low carb for a child is ridiculous. Children need carbs and to
| restrict her diet to an adult style low carb diet would be akin to
| child abuse. | Carolynne


Bull****.

Pumping sugar, french fries, happy meals, baked poatoes, candy, cookies,cake
and potato chips into an already obese child IS child abuse. When that
child is an adult and able to think responsibly he/she will resent his/her
parents tremendously for feeding him/her this crap. Children absolutely do
not need a bunch of high-carb food; you made this up.

I would give anything if my parents had brought me up to eat without all the
starchy and sugary foods. Maybe I wouldnt't be having to deal now with high
blood pressure, diabetic and high cholesterol/triglyceride issues -- not to
mention dieting to lose weight. All things that I am now controlling by not
eating the carby foods.

What in the world happened to responsible parenting? Why do so many parents
today think that if they don't let their children do/eat whatever they want
that it is somehow abusive? This is a sick way of thinking and will lead to
an undisciplined, spoiled, unhealthy next generation.

IMO of course.

--
Peter
270/215/180
Before/Current Pix:
http://users.thelink.net/marengo/wei...htlosspix.html