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  #1  
Old April 10th, 2007, 10:53 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
spaceyjane
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Okie-dokie... my mother has done WW 2 years ago with success, but she only
attended 9 meetings total and chose to do the rest on her own. She's a
unique duck in that she's very good at "programming" herself when she sets
her mind to it.... with the same breakfast & lunch everyday, no snacking,
and small portion size dinner. Crazy woman. Here I sit, scheming to see
how much I can eat to still stay within my points range. I think to myself
often, what can I eat the most of, with the littlest points, so I can eat
and eat and eat to feel full full full, while she just has no problems
staying within portion size and small things, etc.

Anyway, I have a point... somewhere along the lines of me starting WW last
year, then stopping and relatively maintaining, then gradually and sneakly
putting it back on... I am now at the point of desperation to say this is
enough! I need to go back to meetings and have the accountability as well
as the positive influence (from real people, not like my mom who is like
fairyland WW person). Anyway, my mom suggests I just go a couple times to
get "jumpstarted" and then I can do the rest on my own. Boy, sounds nice
(and inexpensive) but also hits me in a way to say... "uhhh, yeah. like you
know that's not going to work"

Then, I also hear the same kind of thing from my husband... "you don't need
to go back to WW... you know what you need to do, just do it..." ummmm,
yeah. like easy for you to say. Obviously when on my own, I am accountable
to myself, and myself is a little too forgiving of grazing, snacking, abuse
of wonderful cookies, and stuffing her face with larger portion sizes than
really necessary.

I don't know if I need something to say to them, so that I can feel less
guilty about "needing" to go to meetings, or if it's an internal thing that
I need to be able to say to me, in order to trust that they mean well, but
that in the long run, I know what I need.

I know this will make no sense here, so I apologize in advance for the
confusion caused..

any light you could shed would be wonderful!
smiles,
j


  #2  
Old April 10th, 2007, 11:11 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Willow Herself
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You make perfect sense... but listen to yourself...

I know I need the meetings, I know it won't work if I don't go to meeting,
but Mom and Hubby say I don't need the meetings..

I know money can be a real issue (believe me I KNOW!) but listen to your
gut, yours, not everybody else's

I'm a leader for Weight Watchers.. so my position is worth what it's
worth... so again don't listen to me, listen to yourself!!!

You think you need this, and you are worth doing this for yourself, there's
no guilt there.. if any should be there, it's theirs, for trying to talk you
away from what you know you need. You don't have to justify yourself, you
want this, you know it'll make it a LOT easier for you.. so there..

Will~


"spaceyjane" wrote in message
...
Okie-dokie... my mother has done WW 2 years ago with success, but she only
attended 9 meetings total and chose to do the rest on her own. She's a
unique duck in that she's very good at "programming" herself when she sets
her mind to it.... with the same breakfast & lunch everyday, no snacking,
and small portion size dinner. Crazy woman. Here I sit, scheming to see
how much I can eat to still stay within my points range. I think to
myself often, what can I eat the most of, with the littlest points, so I
can eat and eat and eat to feel full full full, while she just has no
problems staying within portion size and small things, etc.

Anyway, I have a point... somewhere along the lines of me starting WW last
year, then stopping and relatively maintaining, then gradually and sneakly
putting it back on... I am now at the point of desperation to say this is
enough! I need to go back to meetings and have the accountability as well
as the positive influence (from real people, not like my mom who is like
fairyland WW person). Anyway, my mom suggests I just go a couple times to
get "jumpstarted" and then I can do the rest on my own. Boy, sounds nice
(and inexpensive) but also hits me in a way to say... "uhhh, yeah. like
you know that's not going to work"

Then, I also hear the same kind of thing from my husband... "you don't
need to go back to WW... you know what you need to do, just do it..."
ummmm, yeah. like easy for you to say. Obviously when on my own, I am
accountable to myself, and myself is a little too forgiving of grazing,
snacking, abuse of wonderful cookies, and stuffing her face with larger
portion sizes than really necessary.

I don't know if I need something to say to them, so that I can feel less
guilty about "needing" to go to meetings, or if it's an internal thing
that I need to be able to say to me, in order to trust that they mean
well, but that in the long run, I know what I need.

I know this will make no sense here, so I apologize in advance for the
confusion caused..

any light you could shed would be wonderful!
smiles,
j



  #3  
Old April 11th, 2007, 12:27 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
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spaceyjane wrote:
Okie-dokie... my mother has done WW 2 years ago with success, but she only
attended 9 meetings total and chose to do the rest on her own. She's a
unique duck in that she's very good at "programming" herself when she sets
her mind to it.... with the same breakfast & lunch everyday, no snacking,
and small portion size dinner. Crazy woman. Here I sit, scheming to see
how much I can eat to still stay within my points range. I think to myself
often, what can I eat the most of, with the littlest points, so I can eat
and eat and eat to feel full full full, while she just has no problems
staying within portion size and small things, etc.

Anyway, I have a point... somewhere along the lines of me starting WW last
year, then stopping and relatively maintaining, then gradually and sneakly
putting it back on... I am now at the point of desperation to say this is
enough! I need to go back to meetings and have the accountability as well
as the positive influence (from real people, not like my mom who is like
fairyland WW person). Anyway, my mom suggests I just go a couple times to
get "jumpstarted" and then I can do the rest on my own. Boy, sounds nice
(and inexpensive) but also hits me in a way to say... "uhhh, yeah. like you
know that's not going to work"

Then, I also hear the same kind of thing from my husband... "you don't need
to go back to WW... you know what you need to do, just do it..." ummmm,
yeah. like easy for you to say. Obviously when on my own, I am accountable
to myself, and myself is a little too forgiving of grazing, snacking, abuse
of wonderful cookies, and stuffing her face with larger portion sizes than
really necessary.

I don't know if I need something to say to them, so that I can feel less
guilty about "needing" to go to meetings, or if it's an internal thing that
I need to be able to say to me, in order to trust that they mean well, but
that in the long run, I know what I need.

I know this will make no sense here, so I apologize in advance for the
confusion caused..

any light you could shed would be wonderful!
smiles,
j



The most successful dieters (those who take it off and keep it off for
more than three years) do so using a support system like Weight
Watchers. It's a psychological thing: you are in it together, and
support each other, and it works.

You can know intellectually that you do this, that, or the other, and
it'll take the weight off, but it doesn't give you the support that a
whole bunch of other folk in the same boat and needing support from you
as much as you need it from them gives you. Nor do you benefit from the
camaraderie, the technical discussions, and the recipe swaps that go on
at the meetings.

The meetings will help you and support you until you get portion control
under control, and until you reach you goal, and then they will help you
stay there - IF you keep going to the meetings! Remember, once you get
to goal, you stop paying, so it costs you nothing. You can weigh in
every week, or only once a month (I do every week), and you are there
showing others what can be done.

This group here is a sort of world-wide version of a WW meeting that you
can dip into for support 24/7! Brill!

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Old April 11th, 2007, 03:48 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
spaceyjane
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You are a sage! Thank you for pointing out what was before my nose...
amazing how I didn't really see it that way till you gently showed me the
reflection in the mirror.

I commited today, went to the meeting, and for everyone to know, I am going
until I become a lifer. I just need to set the long term goal, right?
I'm thinking 160 would be just right...

I'm in this for the long haul... thank you for your support and sharing your
wisdom Willow!

"Willow Herself" wrote in
message t...
You make perfect sense... but listen to yourself...

I know I need the meetings, I know it won't work if I don't go to meeting,
but Mom and Hubby say I don't need the meetings..

I know money can be a real issue (believe me I KNOW!) but listen to your
gut, yours, not everybody else's

I'm a leader for Weight Watchers.. so my position is worth what it's
worth... so again don't listen to me, listen to yourself!!!

You think you need this, and you are worth doing this for yourself,
there's no guilt there.. if any should be there, it's theirs, for trying
to talk you away from what you know you need. You don't have to justify
yourself, you want this, you know it'll make it a LOT easier for you.. so
there..

Will~


"spaceyjane" wrote in message
...
Okie-dokie... my mother has done WW 2 years ago with success, but she
only attended 9 meetings total and chose to do the rest on her own.
She's a unique duck in that she's very good at "programming" herself when
she sets her mind to it.... with the same breakfast & lunch everyday, no
snacking, and small portion size dinner. Crazy woman. Here I sit,
scheming to see how much I can eat to still stay within my points range.
I think to myself often, what can I eat the most of, with the littlest
points, so I can eat and eat and eat to feel full full full, while she
just has no problems staying within portion size and small things, etc.

Anyway, I have a point... somewhere along the lines of me starting WW
last year, then stopping and relatively maintaining, then gradually and
sneakly putting it back on... I am now at the point of desperation to say
this is enough! I need to go back to meetings and have the
accountability as well as the positive influence (from real people, not
like my mom who is like fairyland WW person). Anyway, my mom suggests I
just go a couple times to get "jumpstarted" and then I can do the rest on
my own. Boy, sounds nice (and inexpensive) but also hits me in a way to
say... "uhhh, yeah. like you know that's not going to work"

Then, I also hear the same kind of thing from my husband... "you don't
need to go back to WW... you know what you need to do, just do it..."
ummmm, yeah. like easy for you to say. Obviously when on my own, I am
accountable to myself, and myself is a little too forgiving of grazing,
snacking, abuse of wonderful cookies, and stuffing her face with larger
portion sizes than really necessary.

I don't know if I need something to say to them, so that I can feel less
guilty about "needing" to go to meetings, or if it's an internal thing
that I need to be able to say to me, in order to trust that they mean
well, but that in the long run, I know what I need.

I know this will make no sense here, so I apologize in advance for the
confusion caused..

any light you could shed would be wonderful!
smiles,
j





  #5  
Old April 11th, 2007, 03:56 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
spaceyjane
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"Kate XXXXXX" wrote in message
...

The most successful dieters (those who take it off and keep it off for
more than three years) do so using a support system like Weight Watchers.
It's a psychological thing: you are in it together, and support each
other, and it works.

You can know intellectually that you do this, that, or the other, and
it'll take the weight off, but it doesn't give you the support that a
whole bunch of other folk in the same boat and needing support from you as
much as you need it from them gives you. Nor do you benefit from the
camaraderie, the technical discussions, and the recipe swaps that go on at
the meetings.


This is excellent to remember Kate... it is a battle to "think I can" by
myself, but like you said, it's when you're paired with others to go at it
shoulder to shoulder in the same journey, you feel less alone, and you also
learn from others. Tonight I rejoined and went to regular meeting, and just
being there and seeing with my eyes that others are working at this, and
succeeding, made me feel ten times better.


The meetings will help you and support you until you get portion control
under control, and until you reach you goal, and then they will help you
stay there - IF you keep going to the meetings! Remember, once you get to
goal, you stop paying, so it costs you nothing. You can weigh in every
week, or only once a month (I do every week), and you are there showing
others what can be done.


Portion control is a huge thing for me... and I would love to be free from
the bounds of feeling entitled to more more more. The other thing that I'm
going to have to awake my senses to is the so-called thing that happens in
your brain that is supposed to tell your stomach when it's satisfied. That
seems like a totally foriegn thing to me... what a concept that my brain is
trying to communicate with my stomach to say "I'm satisfied" but here I am
so busy wanting to stuff stuff stuff. *sigh* this will be good to learn
to recognize, eh?

This group here is a sort of world-wide version of a WW meeting that you


I'm so glad to have found you all. I need to be here and to soak it all in.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge! I'm greatful!


  #6  
Old April 11th, 2007, 11:35 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Stormmee
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speaking of sabotage...

first you know what you need. I am not a joiner by nature, in fact on the
whole I do not like crowds of any kind. but I MUST have my meetings like an
alcoholic needs the AA time. You first figure out you need the meeting then
you put into place a plan to attend.

Next, if we assume that both of them mean well, then they don't understand
your struggle and you have to either try and explain it to them or just let
it go. For the most part unless money is the issue I would let it go. Your
mom is your mom and I think when the mom gene kicks in so does the food
pusher, even when they themselves have a weight problem.

next if money is an issue the monthly deal with the website is $40.00 a
month and you can save that in reduced grocery bills, there might be a cable
channel that you watch that DH does not and you can cut that out... also you
might tell DH you want to put off exercise equipment in favor of meetings
for a while so you can make sure it will stick this time... this does two
things... gives him comfort about the expenditures and if he is sabotaging,
not buying the exercise equipment will distract him for a while. and it
will also reduce your guilt/anxiety at having to use/lose...

I am now rambling also but hope I have helped you,

Lee
spaceyjane wrote in message
...
Okie-dokie... my mother has done WW 2 years ago with success, but she only
attended 9 meetings total and chose to do the rest on her own. She's a
unique duck in that she's very good at "programming" herself when she sets
her mind to it.... with the same breakfast & lunch everyday, no snacking,
and small portion size dinner. Crazy woman. Here I sit, scheming to see
how much I can eat to still stay within my points range. I think to

myself
often, what can I eat the most of, with the littlest points, so I can eat
and eat and eat to feel full full full, while she just has no problems
staying within portion size and small things, etc.

Anyway, I have a point... somewhere along the lines of me starting WW last
year, then stopping and relatively maintaining, then gradually and sneakly
putting it back on... I am now at the point of desperation to say this is
enough! I need to go back to meetings and have the accountability as well
as the positive influence (from real people, not like my mom who is like
fairyland WW person). Anyway, my mom suggests I just go a couple times to
get "jumpstarted" and then I can do the rest on my own. Boy, sounds nice
(and inexpensive) but also hits me in a way to say... "uhhh, yeah. like

you
know that's not going to work"

Then, I also hear the same kind of thing from my husband... "you don't

need
to go back to WW... you know what you need to do, just do it..." ummmm,
yeah. like easy for you to say. Obviously when on my own, I am

accountable
to myself, and myself is a little too forgiving of grazing, snacking,

abuse
of wonderful cookies, and stuffing her face with larger portion sizes than
really necessary.

I don't know if I need something to say to them, so that I can feel less
guilty about "needing" to go to meetings, or if it's an internal thing

that
I need to be able to say to me, in order to trust that they mean well, but
that in the long run, I know what I need.

I know this will make no sense here, so I apologize in advance for the
confusion caused..

any light you could shed would be wonderful!
smiles,
j




  #7  
Old April 11th, 2007, 11:38 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Stormmee
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you are already a lifer, all you are doing now is making the numbers move,
good for you, consider a smaller goal, like the ten percent, the long term
goal is being a lifer, Lee, pleased for you!!!
spaceyjane wrote in message
. ..
You are a sage! Thank you for pointing out what was before my nose...
amazing how I didn't really see it that way till you gently showed me the
reflection in the mirror.

I commited today, went to the meeting, and for everyone to know, I am

going
until I become a lifer. I just need to set the long term goal, right?
I'm thinking 160 would be just right...

I'm in this for the long haul... thank you for your support and sharing

your
wisdom Willow!

"Willow Herself" wrote in
message t...
You make perfect sense... but listen to yourself...

I know I need the meetings, I know it won't work if I don't go to

meeting,
but Mom and Hubby say I don't need the meetings..

I know money can be a real issue (believe me I KNOW!) but listen to your
gut, yours, not everybody else's

I'm a leader for Weight Watchers.. so my position is worth what it's
worth... so again don't listen to me, listen to yourself!!!

You think you need this, and you are worth doing this for yourself,
there's no guilt there.. if any should be there, it's theirs, for trying
to talk you away from what you know you need. You don't have to justify
yourself, you want this, you know it'll make it a LOT easier for you..

so
there..

Will~


"spaceyjane" wrote in message
...
Okie-dokie... my mother has done WW 2 years ago with success, but she
only attended 9 meetings total and chose to do the rest on her own.
She's a unique duck in that she's very good at "programming" herself

when
she sets her mind to it.... with the same breakfast & lunch everyday,

no
snacking, and small portion size dinner. Crazy woman. Here I sit,
scheming to see how much I can eat to still stay within my points

range.
I think to myself often, what can I eat the most of, with the littlest
points, so I can eat and eat and eat to feel full full full, while she
just has no problems staying within portion size and small things, etc.

Anyway, I have a point... somewhere along the lines of me starting WW
last year, then stopping and relatively maintaining, then gradually and
sneakly putting it back on... I am now at the point of desperation to

say
this is enough! I need to go back to meetings and have the
accountability as well as the positive influence (from real people, not
like my mom who is like fairyland WW person). Anyway, my mom suggests

I
just go a couple times to get "jumpstarted" and then I can do the rest

on
my own. Boy, sounds nice (and inexpensive) but also hits me in a way

to
say... "uhhh, yeah. like you know that's not going to work"

Then, I also hear the same kind of thing from my husband... "you don't
need to go back to WW... you know what you need to do, just do it..."
ummmm, yeah. like easy for you to say. Obviously when on my own, I am
accountable to myself, and myself is a little too forgiving of grazing,
snacking, abuse of wonderful cookies, and stuffing her face with larger
portion sizes than really necessary.

I don't know if I need something to say to them, so that I can feel

less
guilty about "needing" to go to meetings, or if it's an internal thing
that I need to be able to say to me, in order to trust that they mean
well, but that in the long run, I know what I need.

I know this will make no sense here, so I apologize in advance for the
confusion caused..

any light you could shed would be wonderful!
smiles,
j







  #8  
Old April 11th, 2007, 11:43 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Stormmee
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I don't have a satisfied button, only after 233 weeks is there anything
vaguely approaching one, I generally have "starved",... including the shakes
and "stuffed" including, I can't hardly move... part of my success is that
the flex point system gives me an external structure separate from my body
to indicate enough food. It is my goal to keep working at getting a
satisfied button, and I am starting to learn but if this is an issue for you
WW will help you address it... I told my leader recently... if I had even a
full button I wouldn't be here, Lee
spaceyjane wrote in message
. ..

"Kate XXXXXX" wrote in message
...

The most successful dieters (those who take it off and keep it off for
more than three years) do so using a support system like Weight

Watchers.
It's a psychological thing: you are in it together, and support each
other, and it works.

You can know intellectually that you do this, that, or the other, and
it'll take the weight off, but it doesn't give you the support that a
whole bunch of other folk in the same boat and needing support from you

as
much as you need it from them gives you. Nor do you benefit from the
camaraderie, the technical discussions, and the recipe swaps that go on

at
the meetings.


This is excellent to remember Kate... it is a battle to "think I can" by
myself, but like you said, it's when you're paired with others to go at it
shoulder to shoulder in the same journey, you feel less alone, and you

also
learn from others. Tonight I rejoined and went to regular meeting, and

just
being there and seeing with my eyes that others are working at this, and
succeeding, made me feel ten times better.


The meetings will help you and support you until you get portion control
under control, and until you reach you goal, and then they will help you
stay there - IF you keep going to the meetings! Remember, once you get

to
goal, you stop paying, so it costs you nothing. You can weigh in every
week, or only once a month (I do every week), and you are there showing
others what can be done.


Portion control is a huge thing for me... and I would love to be free from
the bounds of feeling entitled to more more more. The other thing that

I'm
going to have to awake my senses to is the so-called thing that happens in
your brain that is supposed to tell your stomach when it's satisfied.

That
seems like a totally foriegn thing to me... what a concept that my brain

is
trying to communicate with my stomach to say "I'm satisfied" but here I am
so busy wanting to stuff stuff stuff. *sigh* this will be good to learn
to recognize, eh?

This group here is a sort of world-wide version of a WW meeting that you


I'm so glad to have found you all. I need to be here and to soak it all

in.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge! I'm greatful!




  #9  
Old April 11th, 2007, 04:14 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
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On Apr 10, 10:53 pm, "spaceyjane" wrote:
Okie-dokie... my mother has done WW 2 years ago with success, but she only
attended 9 meetings total and chose to do the rest on her own. She's a
unique duck in that she's very good at "programming" herself when she sets
her mind to it.... with the same breakfast & lunch everyday, no snacking,
and small portion size dinner. Crazy woman. Here I sit, scheming to see
how much I can eat to still stay within my points range. I think to myself
often, what can I eat the most of, with the littlest points, so I can eat
and eat and eat to feel full full full, while she just has no problems
staying within portion size and small things, etc.



Good for her.
I have had partners who have joined Weight Watchers(this was when I
was not overwieight..........long time ago galaxy far away lol)
They would always stop going and put on weight again, re-join because
"it has worked before"- this baffles me as, to my mind it had
obviously not worked.

Over time I got less active and put on too much weight- I decided to
do it on my own.

I researched on the net for all the current thinking on nutrition that
made sense to me- eat less, exercise more.

I already knew what were bad foods and what were good foods anyway-
deep down most people do they just choose to give in and eat the wrong
choices.
At the end of the day I thought to myself- I will have to be able to
do this for the rest of my life- I know my weight will fluctuate, over
holidays for example, but I have to take control of me and there are
no easy ways of doing it.

This also saved me money )

Anyway, I have a point... somewhere along the lines of me starting WW last
year, then stopping and relatively maintaining, then gradually and sneakly
putting it back on... I am now at the point of desperation to say this is
enough! I need to go back to meetings and have the accountability as well
as the positive influence (from real people, not like my mom who is like
fairyland WW person). Anyway, my mom suggests I just go a couple times to
get "jumpstarted" and then I can do the rest on my own. Boy, sounds nice
(and inexpensive) but also hits me in a way to say... "uhhh, yeah. like you
know that's not going to work"


I think if you are the sort of person who can't do it without the
support of others you will need to go for the rest of your life, that
isn't necessarily a bad thing as support groups can be very social

Then, I also hear the same kind of thing from my husband... "you don't need
to go back to WW... you know what you need to do, just do it..." ummmm,
yeah. like easy for you to say. Obviously when on my own, I am accountable
to myself, and myself is a little too forgiving of grazing, snacking, abuse
of wonderful cookies, and stuffing her face with larger portion sizes than
really necessary.


I hear you I didn't have any idea of portion contol till I started
weighing EVERYTHING, I'm not so strict with the scales anymore as I
have learned over time what a portion is.
He's right though but you shouldn't criticise him for it.

I don't know if I need something to say to them, so that I can feel less
guilty about "needing" to go to meetings, or if it's an internal thing that
I need to be able to say to me, in order to trust that they mean well, but
that in the long run, I know what I need.


You don'thave to feel guilty about anything if you need to go, go.

I know this will make no sense here, so I apologize in advance for the
confusion caused..


Eh? I would have thought we're all in the same fat boat )

any light you could shed would be wonderful!
smiles,
j



just my 2p worth

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Old April 11th, 2007, 04:19 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
spaceyjane
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Default Opinions on meetings from others...

totally with you on this... I'm not a joiner by nature either... I think for
me it has something to do with being vulnerable in front of others, as well
as the humbling of myself that it's something necessary. I do know exactly
what you mean about the WW meeting being like an AA meeting... I think the
root behaviors are very similar, but we picked the food which is more
socially acceptable to be bound to... somehow because it's a vital part of
life, readjusting our relationship to it is harder, because it's included in
most everything and our society is structured partly around it. I think
last time with WW I was just barly touching my toe into the water of it
all... and then I honestly think I wasn't ready to deal with the depth of
the issues and my coping mechanisms or denial, or what have you, that I
backed out as a way to avoid the possible painful things that would arise.
This time around, and leading up to this rejoining, I have really been
twisting it all around in my heart to realize that I can't live this way of
using food as a comfort tool or an avoidance tool, or a tool to help me not
be bored... I really need to address those things apart from food, and have
food be what it's meant to be, a nutrient source of fuel to keep my engine
going, so that in my heart I can deal with the issues the way I was
origionally made to.

Lots to think about... for sure...
lots to reflect on over the rest of my life.

My gosh Lee... 233 weeks I am so proud of you. That is amazing! Do you
have to a reduced fee, or are you a life time member? I'm totally glad to
have found you.

"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
speaking of sabotage...

first you know what you need. I am not a joiner by nature, in fact on the
whole I do not like crowds of any kind. but I MUST have my meetings like
an
alcoholic needs the AA time. You first figure out you need the meeting
then
you put into place a plan to attend.

Next, if we assume that both of them mean well, then they don't understand
your struggle and you have to either try and explain it to them or just
let
it go. For the most part unless money is the issue I would let it go.
Your
mom is your mom and I think when the mom gene kicks in so does the food
pusher, even when they themselves have a weight problem.

next if money is an issue the monthly deal with the website is $40.00 a
month and you can save that in reduced grocery bills, there might be a
cable
channel that you watch that DH does not and you can cut that out... also
you
might tell DH you want to put off exercise equipment in favor of meetings
for a while so you can make sure it will stick this time... this does two
things... gives him comfort about the expenditures and if he is
sabotaging,
not buying the exercise equipment will distract him for a while. and it
will also reduce your guilt/anxiety at having to use/lose...

I am now rambling also but hope I have helped you,

Lee
spaceyjane wrote in message
...
Okie-dokie... my mother has done WW 2 years ago with success, but she
only
attended 9 meetings total and chose to do the rest on her own. She's a
unique duck in that she's very good at "programming" herself when she
sets
her mind to it.... with the same breakfast & lunch everyday, no snacking,
and small portion size dinner. Crazy woman. Here I sit, scheming to see
how much I can eat to still stay within my points range. I think to

myself
often, what can I eat the most of, with the littlest points, so I can eat
and eat and eat to feel full full full, while she just has no problems
staying within portion size and small things, etc.

Anyway, I have a point... somewhere along the lines of me starting WW
last
year, then stopping and relatively maintaining, then gradually and
sneakly
putting it back on... I am now at the point of desperation to say this is
enough! I need to go back to meetings and have the accountability as
well
as the positive influence (from real people, not like my mom who is like
fairyland WW person). Anyway, my mom suggests I just go a couple times
to
get "jumpstarted" and then I can do the rest on my own. Boy, sounds nice
(and inexpensive) but also hits me in a way to say... "uhhh, yeah. like

you
know that's not going to work"

Then, I also hear the same kind of thing from my husband... "you don't

need
to go back to WW... you know what you need to do, just do it..." ummmm,
yeah. like easy for you to say. Obviously when on my own, I am

accountable
to myself, and myself is a little too forgiving of grazing, snacking,

abuse
of wonderful cookies, and stuffing her face with larger portion sizes
than
really necessary.

I don't know if I need something to say to them, so that I can feel less
guilty about "needing" to go to meetings, or if it's an internal thing

that
I need to be able to say to me, in order to trust that they mean well,
but
that in the long run, I know what I need.

I know this will make no sense here, so I apologize in advance for the
confusion caused..

any light you could shed would be wonderful!
smiles,
j






 




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