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Old April 12th, 2007, 10:33 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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Default Anyone raise their HDL with diet and/or medicine?

I'm 52, male, 6'2", 190 pounds. Cardio workout (mainly) with some
strength training 3-4 times a week. I eat well about 85% of the time.
I take Ziac to keep my blood pressure under control. And within the
past year, I've been taking Crestor to lower my LDL (it worked) and
raise my HDL (it worked for awhile, now it doesn't).

I'm looking to find people with similar experiences to tell me what
they do. I've read, for instance, that water soluble fibers in food
like brussel sprouts and peas *may* work. Problem is, I don't like to
eat those veggies (although I do eat most others).

Any ideas? Thanks.

Rick
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Old April 12th, 2007, 10:53 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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I'm 52, male, 6'2", 190 pounds. Cardio workout (mainly) with some
strength training 3-4 times a week. I eat well about 85% of the time.
I take Ziac to keep my blood pressure under control. And within the
past year, I've been taking Crestor to lower my LDL (it worked) and
raise my HDL (it worked for awhile, now it doesn't).

I'm looking to find people with similar experiences to tell me what
they do. I've read, for instance, that water soluble fibers in food
like brussel sprouts and peas *may* work. Problem is, I don't like to
eat those veggies (although I do eat most others).

Any ideas? Thanks.

Rick



My DH's doctor told him that exercise was the best way to raise HDL. DH had
low HDL and high LDL and reversed them by getting into a vigorous exercise
plan. I also exercise regularly and have very high HDL and low LDL. No meds
required.
--
the volleyballchick

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Old April 13th, 2007, 12:24 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:33:10 GMT, wrote:

I'm looking to find people with similar experiences to tell me what
they do. I've read, for instance, that water soluble fibers in food
like brussel sprouts and peas *may* work. Problem is, I don't like to
eat those veggies (although I do eat most others).

Any ideas? Thanks.


Here's a website that lists the soluble fiber values for a large
number of foods.

http://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu...ets/fiber.html

(Please note that the columns in the table don't line up.)

Artichokes are the best. Most beans come next. After that, you've got
various fruits and vegetables.

Hope this is of some help.

Jo Anne

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Old April 13th, 2007, 02:26 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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"Nunya B." wrote in message
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I'm 52, male, 6'2", 190 pounds. Cardio workout (mainly) with some
strength training 3-4 times a week. I eat well about 85% of the time.
I take Ziac to keep my blood pressure under control. And within the
past year, I've been taking Crestor to lower my LDL (it worked) and
raise my HDL (it worked for awhile, now it doesn't).

I'm looking to find people with similar experiences to tell me what
they do. I've read, for instance, that water soluble fibers in food
like brussel sprouts and peas *may* work. Problem is, I don't like to
eat those veggies (although I do eat most others).

Any ideas? Thanks.

Rick



My DH's doctor told him that exercise was the best way to raise HDL. DH
had low HDL and high LDL and reversed them by getting into a vigorous
exercise plan. I also exercise regularly and have very high HDL and low
LDL. No meds required.
--
the volleyballchick


Both DH and I have received the same advice from our docs. Granted, we both
have low cholestorol levels, but we also have low HDL levels too, so in an
effort to improve our ratio of LDL to HDL its been advised to exercise.

When I look back at my medical history I have seen a pattern that coorelates
between exercise levels and my HDL levels.


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Old April 14th, 2007, 04:30 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Apr 12, 2:33 pm, wrote:
I'm 52, male, 6'2", 190 pounds. Cardio workout (mainly) with some
strength training 3-4 times a week. I eat well about 85% of the time.
I take Ziac to keep my blood pressure under control. And within the
past year, I've been taking Crestor to lower my LDL (it worked) and
raise my HDL (it worked for awhile, now it doesn't).

I'm looking to find people with similar experiences to tell me what
they do. I've read, for instance, that water soluble fibers in food
like brussel sprouts and peas *may* work. Problem is, I don't like to
eat those veggies (although I do eat most others).

Any ideas? Thanks.

Rick


Rick --

I've taken Enduracin Niacin since about '84. Now I'm up to 2.5 grams
of it a day (and my physician told me to keep at it). My overall
cholesterol is about 200 and my HDLs are about 90 or so.

There's a book called "The New 8-Week Cholesterol Cure" (Mass Market
Paperback) by Robert E. Kowalski that is an update of the book I read
in the 80's --"The 8-Week Cholesterol Cure" and in it, niacin was
suggested (nicotinic acid). I was on time release niacin until two
years ago, but there was some liver reaction, more common with the
time release version. So I am now using the non-time release version
and it works very well. Reactions I had long ago included flushing of
skin, some facial tingling, etc., but those reactions were totally
harmless and I never have them any more. Also, Enduracin is pretty
darned inexpensive. (I buy it from a little company here in Beaverton,
Oregon.)

If you're interested in this approach, you may want to get Kowalski's
book from your library.

Good luck! I sure can appreciate the helpless feeling that comes with
high cholesterol and no apparent way to reduce it. (It's my
understanding that it is very difficult to control with diet alone and
I tried to be a vegetarian for many months but the numbers didn't
budge.)

Yours,

Caleb

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Old April 15th, 2007, 05:12 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:53:21 -0500, "Nunya B."
wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
I'm 52, male, 6'2", 190 pounds. Cardio workout (mainly) with some
strength training 3-4 times a week. I eat well about 85% of the time.
I take Ziac to keep my blood pressure under control. And within the
past year, I've been taking Crestor to lower my LDL (it worked) and
raise my HDL (it worked for awhile, now it doesn't).

I'm looking to find people with similar experiences to tell me what
they do. I've read, for instance, that water soluble fibers in food
like brussel sprouts and peas *may* work. Problem is, I don't like to
eat those veggies (although I do eat most others).

Any ideas? Thanks.

Rick



My DH's doctor told him that exercise was the best way to raise HDL. DH had
low HDL and high LDL and reversed them by getting into a vigorous exercise
plan. I also exercise regularly and have very high HDL and low LDL. No meds
required.


See, that's the issue. I DO exercise vigourously. I go 60 minutes on
the elliptical three times a week. It's got to be heredity, and my
doctor agrees. What works for you and your DH (btw, does DH stand for
"designated husband"?) doesn't work for me. But thanks for the reply
anyway.

Rick
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Old April 15th, 2007, 05:14 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:26:17 -0400, "LFM"
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"Nunya B." wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
I'm 52, male, 6'2", 190 pounds. Cardio workout (mainly) with some
strength training 3-4 times a week. I eat well about 85% of the time.
I take Ziac to keep my blood pressure under control. And within the
past year, I've been taking Crestor to lower my LDL (it worked) and
raise my HDL (it worked for awhile, now it doesn't).

I'm looking to find people with similar experiences to tell me what
they do. I've read, for instance, that water soluble fibers in food
like brussel sprouts and peas *may* work. Problem is, I don't like to
eat those veggies (although I do eat most others).

Any ideas? Thanks.

Rick



My DH's doctor told him that exercise was the best way to raise HDL. DH
had low HDL and high LDL and reversed them by getting into a vigorous
exercise plan. I also exercise regularly and have very high HDL and low
LDL. No meds required.
--
the volleyballchick


Both DH and I have received the same advice from our docs. Granted, we both
have low cholestorol levels, but we also have low HDL levels too, so in an
effort to improve our ratio of LDL to HDL its been advised to exercise.

When I look back at my medical history I have seen a pattern that coorelates
between exercise levels and my HDL levels.


I'm happy that increased exercise works for you. It doesn't work for
me. And I've been on a regular exercise program for the last 7 years.
Thanks for the reply anyway.

Rick
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Old April 15th, 2007, 05:16 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:24:05 -0400, Jo Anne
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:33:10 GMT, wrote:

I'm looking to find people with similar experiences to tell me what
they do. I've read, for instance, that water soluble fibers in food
like brussel sprouts and peas *may* work. Problem is, I don't like to
eat those veggies (although I do eat most others).

Any ideas? Thanks.


Here's a website that lists the soluble fiber values for a large
number of foods.

http://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu...ets/fiber.html

(Please note that the columns in the table don't line up.)

Artichokes are the best. Most beans come next. After that, you've got
various fruits and vegetables.

Hope this is of some help.

Jo Anne


Thanks, Jo Anne! Now maybe we're getting somewhere (even though I'm
not fond of artichokes either!) I'll take a gander at this link.

Rick
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Old April 15th, 2007, 05:19 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On 13 Apr 2007 20:30:12 -0700, "Caleb" wrote:

On Apr 12, 2:33 pm, wrote:
I'm 52, male, 6'2", 190 pounds. Cardio workout (mainly) with some
strength training 3-4 times a week. I eat well about 85% of the time.
I take Ziac to keep my blood pressure under control. And within the
past year, I've been taking Crestor to lower my LDL (it worked) and
raise my HDL (it worked for awhile, now it doesn't).

I'm looking to find people with similar experiences to tell me what
they do. I've read, for instance, that water soluble fibers in food
like brussel sprouts and peas *may* work. Problem is, I don't like to
eat those veggies (although I do eat most others).

Any ideas? Thanks.

Rick


Rick --

I've taken Enduracin Niacin since about '84. Now I'm up to 2.5 grams
of it a day (and my physician told me to keep at it). My overall
cholesterol is about 200 and my HDLs are about 90 or so.

There's a book called "The New 8-Week Cholesterol Cure" (Mass Market
Paperback) by Robert E. Kowalski that is an update of the book I read
in the 80's --"The 8-Week Cholesterol Cure" and in it, niacin was
suggested (nicotinic acid). I was on time release niacin until two
years ago, but there was some liver reaction, more common with the
time release version. So I am now using the non-time release version
and it works very well. Reactions I had long ago included flushing of
skin, some facial tingling, etc., but those reactions were totally
harmless and I never have them any more. Also, Enduracin is pretty
darned inexpensive. (I buy it from a little company here in Beaverton,
Oregon.)

If you're interested in this approach, you may want to get Kowalski's
book from your library.

Good luck! I sure can appreciate the helpless feeling that comes with
high cholesterol and no apparent way to reduce it. (It's my
understanding that it is very difficult to control with diet alone and
I tried to be a vegetarian for many months but the numbers didn't
budge.)

Yours,

Caleb



Caleb,

Good stuff! I'll search this out. I'm supposed to see my doc in a
couple of weeks to find out the results of my CIMT, so I'll ask him
about that then.

Thanks so much,
Rick
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Old April 15th, 2007, 05:47 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:26:17 -0400, "LFM"
wrote:


Both DH and I have received the same advice from our docs. Granted, we
both
have low cholestorol levels, but we also have low HDL levels too, so in an
effort to improve our ratio of LDL to HDL its been advised to exercise.

When I look back at my medical history I have seen a pattern that
coorelates
between exercise levels and my HDL levels.


I'm happy that increased exercise works for you. It doesn't work for
me. And I've been on a regular exercise program for the last 7 years.
Thanks for the reply anyway.

Rick


Ok, in your reply to me you've been on an exercise program for 7 yrs, and in
another post you talk about exercising vigorously on the elliptical.

When was the last time you totally changed up your routine? Cross training,
something different. Totally changing your routine to something entirely
new?

60 mins 3x per week may not be enough. Try something completly different.
Pick up weight lifting, try biking or swimming or even running. Your body
can become acustomed to the same exercise over and over and will adapt to
having that as part of the regular routine.

I walk my dog 1 mile every day. I do not consider that as part of my
normal "exercise" routine because it is just my normal daily activity. My
body expects that of me (and so does my dog). After all these years of the
same exercise, your body has likely adapted to that routine.



 




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