Ephedra Ban

"Kevin J. Coolidge" wrote:

"JimmySmith" wrote in message
The REAL reason ephedra has been banned is because it is the
main ingredient in the manufacture of methamphetamines.
snip
yes you can,


*Bull*****.

....Ephedrine-hypocloride (the athsma med) can be used in meth-man, but
it has NOT been banned.

....Meanwhile, weight-loss product herbal ephedra (essentially ground-up
weed compressed into tabs along with caffeine and aspirin and mineral
additives -- impurities that no mether is going to want to deal with
trying to separate out) is what is being banned.

....Herbal ephedra NOT marketed in the form of weight-loss tabs (i.e.,
"traditional Chinese medicine") is EXEMPT from the ban.

IOW, the *only* ephedra which is being banned is the ephedra which
competes with the trillion-dollar/year parmecuetical snake-oil industry
which has co-opted and now runs the FDA. This is why kills-test-subjects
products like Viagra that cost $9 a pill are approved while SAFE and
NON-PATENTABLE products (like ephedra) are outlawed.


....that's why I don't care if they banned ephedra lol.


In short, you "don't care" when your country becomes a communazi
nanny-state, and the reason for that is because you're a *moron* with a
slave-mentality.

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"Mike1" wrote in message
...
"Kevin J. Coolidge" wrote:

"JimmySmith" wrote in message
The REAL reason ephedra has been banned is because it is the
main ingredient in the manufacture of methamphetamines.
snip
yes you can,


*Bull*****.

...Ephedrine-hypocloride (the athsma med) can be used in meth-man, but
it has NOT been banned.

...Meanwhile, weight-loss product herbal ephedra (essentially ground-up
weed compressed into tabs along with caffeine and aspirin and mineral
additives -- impurities that no mether is going to want to deal with
trying to separate out) is what is being banned.

...Herbal ephedra NOT marketed in the form of weight-loss tabs (i.e.,
"traditional Chinese medicine") is EXEMPT from the ban.

IOW, the *only* ephedra which is being banned is the ephedra which
competes with the trillion-dollar/year parmecuetical snake-oil industry
which has co-opted and now runs the FDA. This is why kills-test-subjects
products like Viagra that cost $9 a pill are approved while SAFE and
NON-PATENTABLE products (like ephedra) are outlawed.


....that's why I don't care if they banned ephedra lol.


In short, you "don't care" when your country becomes a communazi
nanny-state, and the reason for that is because you're a *moron* with a
slave-mentality.

--

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-- Ambrose Bierce

and if you read closer. He asked if ephedrine not ephedra could be used for
meth. Perhaps we ought to be more scared of carless people like you than the
government. I actually was not thrilled with the ephedra ban. I don't use
it, not because it doesn't work, but because it has a rebound affect. Good
for losing fat short term, but you usually gain most of it back if you are
allready fairly lean. A very overweight person probably wouldn't, but they
probably would be at increased risk. In case you aren't aware. LOL stands
for laughing outloud. I was trying to denote sarcasm, but I obviously went
over your head. Sorry about that chum
"Mike1" wrote in message
...
"Kevin J. Coolidge" wrote:

"JimmySmith" wrote in message
The REAL reason ephedra has been banned is because it is the
main ingredient in the manufacture of methamphetamines.
snip
yes you can,


*Bull*****.

...Ephedrine-hypocloride (the athsma med) can be used in meth-man, but
it has NOT been banned.

...Meanwhile, weight-loss product herbal ephedra (essentially ground-up
weed compressed into tabs along with caffeine and aspirin and mineral
additives -- impurities that no mether is going to want to deal with
trying to separate out) is what is being banned.

...Herbal ephedra NOT marketed in the form of weight-loss tabs (i.e.,
"traditional Chinese medicine") is EXEMPT from the ban.

IOW, the *only* ephedra which is being banned is the ephedra which
competes with the trillion-dollar/year parmecuetical snake-oil industry
which has co-opted and now runs the FDA. This is why kills-test-subjects
products like Viagra that cost $9 a pill are approved while SAFE and
NON-PATENTABLE products (like ephedra) are outlawed.


....that's why I don't care if they banned ephedra lol.


In short, you "don't care" when your country becomes a communazi
nanny-state, and the reason for that is because you're a *moron* with a
slave-mentality.

--

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[The first of two top-posting dingbats scribbled...]

In article ,
"Kevin J. Coolidge" wrote:

and if you read closer. He asked if ephedrine not ephedra could be used for
meth.


You stupid ass; if you're going to make a claim like that, you should at
least bother to READ THE MATERIAL WHICH YOU REQUOTED IN ITS ENTIRETY.

Now go back and re-familiarize yourself with what "JimmySmith"
originally wrote.


Perhaps we.....


"We"? Do you have a gerbil somwhere?

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(Skipperbeers) wrote:
From: Mike1

IOW, the *only* ephedra which is being banned is the ephedra which
competes with the trillion-dollar/year parmecuetical snake-oil industry
which has co-opted and now runs the FDA. This is why kills-test-subjects
products like Viagra that cost $9 a pill are approved while SAFE and
NON-PATENTABLE products (like ephedra) are outlawed.

In short, you "don't care" when your country becomes a communazi
nanny-state, and the reason for that is because you're a *moron* with a
slave-mentality.

I don't like the language or the attitude. It's unfortunate that there's some
truth to the comments, though.


The language and attitude are reserved for those who *earn* them.


In 1967, my dad got a Jeep Wagoneer with seat belts, the first car I recall
having them and made us all buckle up because he was safety conscious. The
government didn't have to tell us to do it, and as long as they weren't in our
car, we didn't think those who didn't "click it" should get a "ticket"
(Michigan campaign, not sure if "click it or ticket is national or local.)
When I was 16 and giving fellow baseball team members a ride, they certainly
were annoyed at my seat belt rule. My dad said I woldn't be driving if I
didn't buckle it, I listened and developed the habit. Now I believe they can
stop you if they even suspect you are not wearing a seat belt? It's absurd.

They chink away at our liberty a little at a time. And it affects the medical
industry, the nutrition industry, and thyroid treatment. The legal
implications of thyroid treatment don't allow the profit margins of those whose
lobbyists have influence, so they got rid of Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatfield in the
UK and then immediately went after Dr. David Derry in British Columbia, Canada.
Even though he had a lot of his patients supporting him, they alone couldn't
create enough of an uproar to make the British Columbian government reconsider.

Some day, those in the United States are going to have to start getting upset
about the loss of liberty. Either that, or lose it.


This has been going on full-blast for a whole century.


It would be a terrible
thing to many of us if there wasn't enough profit in Armour, so the lobbyists
went after a ban on it. The trend in the loss of liberty for the common man is
scary. ON the other hand, under our current president, the rich and the
industrial polluters have a lot more of it.


Marxist twaddle.

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it's people like you that give weightlifters a bad name, with all your
ranting and raving, you don't get listened to. Take up a real cause


"Mike1" wrote in message
...
(Skipperbeers) wrote:
From: Mike1

IOW, the *only* ephedra which is being banned is the ephedra which
competes with the trillion-dollar/year parmecuetical snake-oil industry
which has co-opted and now runs the FDA. This is why kills-test-subjects
products like Viagra that cost $9 a pill are approved while SAFE and
NON-PATENTABLE products (like ephedra) are outlawed.

In short, you "don't care" when your country becomes a communazi
nanny-state, and the reason for that is because you're a *moron* with a
slave-mentality.

I don't like the language or the attitude. It's unfortunate that there's
some
truth to the comments, though.


The language and attitude are reserved for those who *earn* them.


In 1967, my dad got a Jeep Wagoneer with seat belts, the first car I
recall
having them and made us all buckle up because he was safety conscious.
The
government didn't have to tell us to do it, and as long as they weren't
in our
car, we didn't think those who didn't "click it" should get a "ticket"
(Michigan campaign, not sure if "click it or ticket is national or
local.)
When I was 16 and giving fellow baseball team members a ride, they
certainly
were annoyed at my seat belt rule. My dad said I woldn't be driving if I
didn't buckle it, I listened and developed the habit. Now I believe they
can
stop you if they even suspect you are not wearing a seat belt? It's
absurd.

They chink away at our liberty a little at a time. And it affects the
medical
industry, the nutrition industry, and thyroid treatment. The legal
implications of thyroid treatment don't allow the profit margins of those
whose
lobbyists have influence, so they got rid of Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatfield
in the
UK and then immediately went after Dr. David Derry in British Columbia,
Canada.
Even though he had a lot of his patients supporting him, they alone
couldn't
create enough of an uproar to make the British Columbian government
reconsider.

Some day, those in the United States are going to have to start getting
upset
about the loss of liberty. Either that, or lose it.


This has been going on full-blast for a whole century.


It would be a terrible
thing to many of us if there wasn't enough profit in Armour, so the
lobbyists
went after a ban on it. The trend in the loss of liberty for the common
man is
scary. ON the other hand, under our current president, the rich and the
industrial polluters have a lot more of it.


Marxist twaddle.

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"Kevin J. Coolidge" wrote:
it's people like you that give weightlifters a bad name....


The nice audience will duly note that you couldn't handle the arguments.

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what argument? You moron.


"Mike1" wrote in message
...
"Kevin J. Coolidge" wrote:
it's people like you that give weightlifters a bad name....


The nice audience will duly note that you couldn't handle the arguments.

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Continually top-posting like a dingbat, "Kevin J. Coolidge" wrote:

top-posting fixed...again

"Mike1" wrote in message
"Kevin J. Coolidge" wrote:
it's people like you that give weightlifters a bad name....

The nice audience will duly note that you couldn't handle the arguments.

what argument? You moron.


These ones, dingbat, in this very thread:

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Newsgroups: alt.support.diet,alt.sport.weightlifting,alt.suppo rt.thyroid
Subject: Ephedra Ban
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:47:11 -0600
From: Mike Schneider

"Kevin J. Coolidge" wrote:

"JimmySmith" wrote in message
The REAL reason ephedra has been banned is because it is the
main ingredient in the manufacture of methamphetamines.
snip
yes you can,


[Yo, Dingbat: You see Jimmy writing "ephedra" up there instead of
"ephedrine"? Wence then your retort, a few posts back,"...and if you
read closer. He asked if ephedrine not ephedra could be used for
meth." Are you blind, forgetful, or just functionally illiterate?]


*Bull*****.

....Ephedrine-hypocloride (the athsma med) can be used in meth-man, but
it has NOT been banned.

....Meanwhile, weight-loss product herbal ephedra (essentially ground-up
weed compressed into tabs along with caffeine and aspirin and mineral
additives -- impurities that no mether is going to want to deal with
trying to separate out) is what is being banned.

....Herbal ephedra NOT marketed in the form of weight-loss tabs (i.e.,
"traditional Chinese medicine") is EXEMPT from the ban.

IOW, the *only* ephedra which is being banned is the ephedra which
competes with the trillion-dollar/year parmecuetical snake-oil industry
which has co-opted and now runs the FDA. This is why kills-test-subjects
products like Viagra that cost $9 a pill are approved while SAFE and
NON-PATENTABLE products (like ephedra) are outlawed.


....that's why I don't care if they banned ephedra lol.


In short, you "don't care" when your country becomes a communazi
nanny-state, and the reason for that is because you're a *moron* with a
slave-mentality.

--

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