Ephedrine

Patricia Heil wrote:

"Jay" sales@*remove this bit*knickershop.co.uk wrote:

As a follow up to my earlier post about drugs, any one know an online
pharmacy that can provide me with "pure" ephedrine or, failing that, a
drug that contains a large % of ephedrine? I cant seem to find any
at the moment

That's because they're all afraid of being sued. It's been banned here in
the US because it killed too many people. Maybe it hasn't been banned in
the UK but they may be considering it.

You so sure about that? Exactly how many people did ephedrine kill?
Want to put that in perspective with any other drug anywhere? Want to
balance it alongside the number of people who die from obesity?

Ephedrine is for sale in every drug store in America - as long as it's
over-priced with a brand name label on it. It's not even CLOSE to being
banned.

The problem with the herbal version, ephedra, is that it has no
pharmaceutical company is backing it. There's no patent, it's cheap,
effective and undercuts drug sales of their products.

To answer Jay's question, just google for it. Try "ephedrine HCl online
UK". Answers jump right out at you.

Dally

Patricia Heil wrote:

"Jay" sales@*remove this bit*knickershop.co.uk wrote:

As a follow up to my earlier post about drugs, any one know an online
pharmacy that can provide me with "pure" ephedrine or, failing that, a
drug that contains a large % of ephedrine? I cant seem to find any
at the moment

That's because they're all afraid of being sued. It's been banned here in
the US because it killed too many people. Maybe it hasn't been banned in
the UK but they may be considering it.

You so sure about that? Exactly how many people did ephedrine kill?
Want to put that in perspective with any other drug anywhere? Want to
balance it alongside the number of people who die from obesity?

Ephedrine is for sale in every drug store in America - as long as it's
over-priced with a brand name label on it. It's not even CLOSE to being
banned.

The problem with the herbal version, ephedra, is that it has no
pharmaceutical company is backing it. There's no patent, it's cheap,
effective and undercuts drug sales of their products.

To answer Jay's question, just google for it. Try "ephedrine HCl online
UK". Answers jump right out at you.

Dally

"Dally" wrote in message
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Ignoramus8653 wrote:

People take 24mg per day in 3 dozes, that's what I heard. I would
loath to give an impression that I have any special knowledge about
those pills. Google around if you feel brave.


That's too high a dose for almost everyone It's better to start with 8 mg
E and 80 mg C and ramp up slowly. 80 mg of C is essentially one cup of
coffee. When you get to 16 mg of E and 160 mg of C you're having two cups
of coffee. A full dose of 24 mg of E and 240 mg of C is like three cups
of coffee combined with a stimulant. If your system is not ready for that
then you are going to be miserably wired.

The main problem with EC stacks is that people blamed them for acting like
stimulants. It's ridiculous, really, but there you have it. No matter
how stupid you think people are, likely they are even dumber than that.

Even at my highest dose I've ever done I did 24 mg of E in the morning and
16 mg of E in the early afternoon, combined with coffee, too, so I was
having the equivalent of five cups of coffee. I needed and wanted the
stimulant buzz for my seasonal busy season, but other people might not
like that aspect. Do NOT have three doses, and do NOT have any within a
few hours of bed. I find that 3 pm is the latest for me.

By the way, the out-of-shape baseball player that died after dosing on an
ECA stack (Steve Belcher?) was also dehydrated, hadn't eaten that day, had
a pre-existing condition contradicting the use of ephedrine, AND he may
have taken a triple dose (24mg x 3 plus equivalent of 9 cups of coffee.)
This is more an example of Darwin at work than of ECA being evil.

Dally


By C I presume u mean caffiene?

Jay

"Dally" wrote in message
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Ignoramus8653 wrote:

People take 24mg per day in 3 dozes, that's what I heard. I would
loath to give an impression that I have any special knowledge about
those pills. Google around if you feel brave.


That's too high a dose for almost everyone It's better to start with 8 mg
E and 80 mg C and ramp up slowly. 80 mg of C is essentially one cup of
coffee. When you get to 16 mg of E and 160 mg of C you're having two cups
of coffee. A full dose of 24 mg of E and 240 mg of C is like three cups
of coffee combined with a stimulant. If your system is not ready for that
then you are going to be miserably wired.

The main problem with EC stacks is that people blamed them for acting like
stimulants. It's ridiculous, really, but there you have it. No matter
how stupid you think people are, likely they are even dumber than that.

Even at my highest dose I've ever done I did 24 mg of E in the morning and
16 mg of E in the early afternoon, combined with coffee, too, so I was
having the equivalent of five cups of coffee. I needed and wanted the
stimulant buzz for my seasonal busy season, but other people might not
like that aspect. Do NOT have three doses, and do NOT have any within a
few hours of bed. I find that 3 pm is the latest for me.

By the way, the out-of-shape baseball player that died after dosing on an
ECA stack (Steve Belcher?) was also dehydrated, hadn't eaten that day, had
a pre-existing condition contradicting the use of ephedrine, AND he may
have taken a triple dose (24mg x 3 plus equivalent of 9 cups of coffee.)
This is more an example of Darwin at work than of ECA being evil.

Dally


By C I presume u mean caffiene?

Jay

Ignoramus8653 wrote:
In article , Dally wrote:

Ignoramus8653 wrote:


People take 24mg per day in 3 dozes, that's what I heard. I would
loath to give an impression that I have any special knowledge about
those pills. Google around if you feel brave.


That's too high a dose for almost everyone


24 mg per day too high? You said below that you did 40 mg per day.

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were saying 24 mg three times a day.

The stacker products came formulated with 24 mg doses. Most people used
to buy E in 24 mg doses and thought they should take 24 mg three times a
day. I was warned early on to buy the smaller tablets (just appearing
then) and ramp up. It used to be people were supposed to just cut the
pills (or avoid the pre-made high dose ones.)

Oh, to Jay, the combination is E=ephedrine, C=caffeine, A=aspirin. If
you didn't know that then you ought not to be taking it. You need to
know how your body responds to ephedrine and any contra-indications for
taking it in your case, you need to know how you tolerate caffeine (and
how you feel when you DON'T take it after you get used to it) and you
need to understand what aspirin does. Aspirin is the most controversial
element in the stack, actually.

Don't take my word for ANY of this stuff. Figure out how your own body
works and discuss it with your doctor. I've discussed it with mine
twice now, as well as read many studies. The "white papers" quoted on
the FDA site are interesting because they essentially say that it works
and didn't harm anyone, and that's presented as the fine print for why
they're banning it. Great reading if you can stand watching how
government works.

Dally

Ignoramus8653 wrote:
In article , Dally wrote:

Ignoramus8653 wrote:


People take 24mg per day in 3 dozes, that's what I heard. I would
loath to give an impression that I have any special knowledge about
those pills. Google around if you feel brave.


That's too high a dose for almost everyone


24 mg per day too high? You said below that you did 40 mg per day.

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were saying 24 mg three times a day.

The stacker products came formulated with 24 mg doses. Most people used
to buy E in 24 mg doses and thought they should take 24 mg three times a
day. I was warned early on to buy the smaller tablets (just appearing
then) and ramp up. It used to be people were supposed to just cut the
pills (or avoid the pre-made high dose ones.)

Oh, to Jay, the combination is E=ephedrine, C=caffeine, A=aspirin. If
you didn't know that then you ought not to be taking it. You need to
know how your body responds to ephedrine and any contra-indications for
taking it in your case, you need to know how you tolerate caffeine (and
how you feel when you DON'T take it after you get used to it) and you
need to understand what aspirin does. Aspirin is the most controversial
element in the stack, actually.

Don't take my word for ANY of this stuff. Figure out how your own body
works and discuss it with your doctor. I've discussed it with mine
twice now, as well as read many studies. The "white papers" quoted on
the FDA site are interesting because they essentially say that it works
and didn't harm anyone, and that's presented as the fine print for why
they're banning it. Great reading if you can stand watching how
government works.

Dally

Ignoramus8653 wrote:
In article , Dally wrote:

Ignoramus8653 wrote:


People take 24mg per day in 3 dozes, that's what I heard. I would
loath to give an impression that I have any special knowledge about
those pills. Google around if you feel brave.


That's too high a dose for almost everyone


24 mg per day too high? You said below that you did 40 mg per day.

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were saying 24 mg three times a day.

The stacker products came formulated with 24 mg doses. Most people used
to buy E in 24 mg doses and thought they should take 24 mg three times a
day. I was warned early on to buy the smaller tablets (just appearing
then) and ramp up. It used to be people were supposed to just cut the
pills (or avoid the pre-made high dose ones.)

Oh, to Jay, the combination is E=ephedrine, C=caffeine, A=aspirin. If
you didn't know that then you ought not to be taking it. You need to
know how your body responds to ephedrine and any contra-indications for
taking it in your case, you need to know how you tolerate caffeine (and
how you feel when you DON'T take it after you get used to it) and you
need to understand what aspirin does. Aspirin is the most controversial
element in the stack, actually.

Don't take my word for ANY of this stuff. Figure out how your own body
works and discuss it with your doctor. I've discussed it with mine
twice now, as well as read many studies. The "white papers" quoted on
the FDA site are interesting because they essentially say that it works
and didn't harm anyone, and that's presented as the fine print for why
they're banning it. Great reading if you can stand watching how
government works.

Dally

Oh, to Jay, the combination is E=ephedrine, C=caffeine, A=aspirin. If you
didn't know that then you ought not to be taking it. You need to know how
your body responds to ephedrine and any contra-indications for taking it
in your case, you need to know how you tolerate caffeine (and how you feel
when you DON'T take it after you get used to it) and you need to
understand what aspirin does. Aspirin is the most controversial element
in the stack, actually.

The reason I am here is to find out this information - unless u were born
with the knowledge we all have to learn from somewhere. I have ordered
ephedrine and caffeine but on the aspirin front Im guessing something like
anadin is perfect? The ephedrine tabs are 8mg each but the caffeine is 200mg
each and anadin (for example) is 325mg - what doses and how often should I
be looking at initially?

TIA

Jay

Oh, to Jay, the combination is E=ephedrine, C=caffeine, A=aspirin. If you
didn't know that then you ought not to be taking it. You need to know how
your body responds to ephedrine and any contra-indications for taking it
in your case, you need to know how you tolerate caffeine (and how you feel
when you DON'T take it after you get used to it) and you need to
understand what aspirin does. Aspirin is the most controversial element
in the stack, actually.

The reason I am here is to find out this information - unless u were born
with the knowledge we all have to learn from somewhere. I have ordered
ephedrine and caffeine but on the aspirin front Im guessing something like
anadin is perfect? The ephedrine tabs are 8mg each but the caffeine is 200mg
each and anadin (for example) is 325mg - what doses and how often should I
be looking at initially?

TIA

Jay

Oh, to Jay, the combination is E=ephedrine, C=caffeine, A=aspirin. If you
didn't know that then you ought not to be taking it. You need to know how
your body responds to ephedrine and any contra-indications for taking it
in your case, you need to know how you tolerate caffeine (and how you feel
when you DON'T take it after you get used to it) and you need to
understand what aspirin does. Aspirin is the most controversial element
in the stack, actually.

The reason I am here is to find out this information - unless u were born
with the knowledge we all have to learn from somewhere. I have ordered
ephedrine and caffeine but on the aspirin front Im guessing something like
anadin is perfect? The ephedrine tabs are 8mg each but the caffeine is 200mg
each and anadin (for example) is 325mg - what doses and how often should I
be looking at initially?

TIA

Jay