Atkins Diet

"Ignoramus24206" wrote in message
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In article , Beverly wrote:

"Ignoramus24206" wrote in message
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In article .net, MJC
wrote:
Thanks for mentioning this. I just checked my "grain" bread and you
are
absolutly right. They used Brown Sugar instead of molasses but it has
the
same results.

Exactly. I looked in our grocery store and could not find real 100%
whole grain bread. All that bread was fake.

i

http://www.cspinet.org/new/bread.htm

Brownberry and Pepperridge Farm usually have some whole grain breads if
they're available in your store.



Thanks. Brownberry does not ring a bell, but I have seen the name
Pepperridge somewhere, if my memory serves me right.

i

It may be sold under another name in your area.

http://www.brownberry.com/

"Ignoramus24206" wrote in message
...
In article , Beverly wrote:

"Ignoramus24206" wrote in message
...
In article .net, MJC
wrote:
Thanks for mentioning this. I just checked my "grain" bread and you
are
absolutly right. They used Brown Sugar instead of molasses but it has
the
same results.

Exactly. I looked in our grocery store and could not find real 100%
whole grain bread. All that bread was fake.

i

http://www.cspinet.org/new/bread.htm

Brownberry and Pepperridge Farm usually have some whole grain breads if
they're available in your store.



Thanks. Brownberry does not ring a bell, but I have seen the name
Pepperridge somewhere, if my memory serves me right.

i

It may be sold under another name in your area.

http://www.brownberry.com/

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 at 16:44:49, Ignoramus24206
wrote:

I am glad that you can buy something at stores. We own a bread machine
and use it as well.

As I live in a tiny flat with a communal garden, I'd be in big trouble
if I couldn't! Buy my food from the supermarket, I mean. But I do try
to avoid ready-meals, except as an occasional treat.
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 7 August 2004 - for a limited time, be bored by my holiday
snaps!

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 at 16:44:49, Ignoramus24206
wrote:

I am glad that you can buy something at stores. We own a bread machine
and use it as well.

As I live in a tiny flat with a communal garden, I'd be in big trouble
if I couldn't! Buy my food from the supermarket, I mean. But I do try
to avoid ready-meals, except as an occasional treat.
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 7 August 2004 - for a limited time, be bored by my holiday
snaps!

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 at 17:14:16, Ignoramus24206
wrote:

The claim of Atkins is not that it is restriction free, but that it
controls hunger and stabilized blood sugar.

I do know that people who try the Atkins diet claim not to feel hungry,
and I know people on here claim that if they eat carbohydrate-based
foods at noon, they are hungry earlier than if they do not. But I don't
find that to be the case; today at lunchtime I had bread rolls and
tabbouleh salad, among other things (I had a friend over), and am still
not particularly hungry, at 6.30 pm. I am beginning to think about
supper, but only beginning to, and have not wanted a snack
mid-afternoon. Whereas if I eat a low-carbohydrate lunch, I'm usually
starving by mid-afternoon.
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 7 August 2004 - for a limited time, be bored by my holiday
snaps!

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 at 17:14:16, Ignoramus24206
wrote:

The claim of Atkins is not that it is restriction free, but that it
controls hunger and stabilized blood sugar.

I do know that people who try the Atkins diet claim not to feel hungry,
and I know people on here claim that if they eat carbohydrate-based
foods at noon, they are hungry earlier than if they do not. But I don't
find that to be the case; today at lunchtime I had bread rolls and
tabbouleh salad, among other things (I had a friend over), and am still
not particularly hungry, at 6.30 pm. I am beginning to think about
supper, but only beginning to, and have not wanted a snack
mid-afternoon. Whereas if I eat a low-carbohydrate lunch, I'm usually
starving by mid-afternoon.
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 7 August 2004 - for a limited time, be bored by my holiday
snaps!

Lictor wrote:

"Paula" wrote in message
om...

None of the low carb diets recommend that you eliminate carbs for the
rest of your life.


They still "put a restriction and/or ban food groups". I doubt Aktins
lets
you eat an unlimited amount of carbs a day. I also doubt Atkins let
you add
four sugar cubes in your morning coffee. So, it's restrictive. And it
does
recommend that you continue that restriction for the rest of your life.


You reintroduce carbs into your diet selectively and as long as you
continue to lose the weight you want to lose and keep your cravings at
bay, you can continue to move through the phases of the diet.


You *reintroduce* them *selectively*. This is still a restriction.
Control
of your carb intake is going to be monitored by a formula or some kind of
external signal, not by your own feelings. If you *stop* being on
Atkins and
resume your old habits, you *will* regain your lost weight. So, you
do have
to stay on Atkins for life. The fact that you won't eat the same
Atkins on
induction and on the day of your death doesn't change the fact that
you're
on it for life.

Regain lost weight? I think regain and then some would be more
accurate. Almost all of the Atkins people I’ve heard from argue that
Fat doesn’t affect health or weight when not in the presence of carbs.
Therefore they often eat a diet high in fat knowing their carbs are
limited. Falling off the low carb wagon will mean an increase in
carbs without a decrease in fat. A combination that will likely put
them through their initial max weight and set a new record in the wrong
direction.

Lictor wrote:

"Paula" wrote in message
om...

None of the low carb diets recommend that you eliminate carbs for the
rest of your life.


They still "put a restriction and/or ban food groups". I doubt Aktins
lets
you eat an unlimited amount of carbs a day. I also doubt Atkins let
you add
four sugar cubes in your morning coffee. So, it's restrictive. And it
does
recommend that you continue that restriction for the rest of your life.


You reintroduce carbs into your diet selectively and as long as you
continue to lose the weight you want to lose and keep your cravings at
bay, you can continue to move through the phases of the diet.


You *reintroduce* them *selectively*. This is still a restriction.
Control
of your carb intake is going to be monitored by a formula or some kind of
external signal, not by your own feelings. If you *stop* being on
Atkins and
resume your old habits, you *will* regain your lost weight. So, you
do have
to stay on Atkins for life. The fact that you won't eat the same
Atkins on
induction and on the day of your death doesn't change the fact that
you're
on it for life.

Regain lost weight? I think regain and then some would be more
accurate. Almost all of the Atkins people I’ve heard from argue that
Fat doesn’t affect health or weight when not in the presence of carbs.
Therefore they often eat a diet high in fat knowing their carbs are
limited. Falling off the low carb wagon will mean an increase in
carbs without a decrease in fat. A combination that will likely put
them through their initial max weight and set a new record in the wrong
direction.

Lictor wrote:
"Paula" wrote in message
. com...
None of the low carb diets recommend that you eliminate carbs for the
rest of your life.

They still "put a restriction and/or ban food groups". I doubt Aktins lets
you eat an unlimited amount of carbs a day. I also doubt Atkins let you add
four sugar cubes in your morning coffee. So, it's restrictive. And it does
recommend that you continue that restriction for the rest of your life.

Have you ever read about the maintenance phase of the Atkins process?
http://atkins.com

Click on "How to do Atkins".

Be prepared to have some assumptions reversed :-)

There's a heck of a lot of carbs allowed in the maintenance phase.
For what it's worth, there's a lot of "freedom" in any type of diet.

Atkins isn't God and he's not going to strike you dead if you put 4
cubes of sugar in your coffee. The choice is the users. They are
responsible for both the decision to, and the consequences of, putting
anything they want in their mouth.

If one considers the "rules" of a diet burdensome, then yes, it can seem
like there is no "freedom". But if someone actually follows the
rules for a time and begins to see the point of the rules, then it's
like "Hey, sugar is not that big a deal for me!" (Once someone sees an
easily-recognizable benefit of cutting down on their sugar).

When I was a child I had a "rule" of "don't drink gasoline", but now
that I'm a grown-up, I can see a lot of freedom resulting in not
drinking gasoline grin. Sure, it's restrictive, but I think I can
handle the deprivation ;-)

Lictor wrote:
"Paula" wrote in message
. com...
None of the low carb diets recommend that you eliminate carbs for the
rest of your life.

They still "put a restriction and/or ban food groups". I doubt Aktins lets
you eat an unlimited amount of carbs a day. I also doubt Atkins let you add
four sugar cubes in your morning coffee. So, it's restrictive. And it does
recommend that you continue that restriction for the rest of your life.

Have you ever read about the maintenance phase of the Atkins process?
http://atkins.com

Click on "How to do Atkins".

Be prepared to have some assumptions reversed :-)

There's a heck of a lot of carbs allowed in the maintenance phase.
For what it's worth, there's a lot of "freedom" in any type of diet.

Atkins isn't God and he's not going to strike you dead if you put 4
cubes of sugar in your coffee. The choice is the users. They are
responsible for both the decision to, and the consequences of, putting
anything they want in their mouth.

If one considers the "rules" of a diet burdensome, then yes, it can seem
like there is no "freedom". But if someone actually follows the
rules for a time and begins to see the point of the rules, then it's
like "Hey, sugar is not that big a deal for me!" (Once someone sees an
easily-recognizable benefit of cutting down on their sugar).

When I was a child I had a "rule" of "don't drink gasoline", but now
that I'm a grown-up, I can see a lot of freedom resulting in not
drinking gasoline grin. Sure, it's restrictive, but I think I can
handle the deprivation ;-)