setting reasonable goals

--

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
One of the things I decided is that I would do nothing during the weight
loss process that I could not do for the rest of my life, and that has so
far worked for me, I for example tried to give up my bedtime snack, a big
disaster, it is now back, I am happier and still losing weight. It seems
to
me that giving it up would assist in faster weight loss but if I am
miserable and feeling deprived there is no point, Lee

I've adopted the same philosphy, Lee. I'm not looking at WW as soley a way
to lose weight now. I've done that many times in the past, and always
gained the weight back. Everything that I am doing now, including exercise,
is very thought out and I always have the end result in mind, and the
question "can I do this forever?" If the answer is no, I make little
changes until it I can truthfully say that I will be able to do it always.

Sure, I may lose much more slowly, but if this is a lifestyle change, then
that doesn't matter, does it?

THINKING is what will keep the weight off, I believe, not blindly following
someone else's idea of what works for your own body.

Carol

.................................................. ...........
318/247/169
71 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
.................................................. .............
Carol in NC wrote in message
...
Hi all,

This is a really interesting article about setting reasonable weight
loss
goals, and the pitfalls of being too ambitious (i.e....trying to lose
too
much, too fast.)



http://www.healthology.com/focus_art...b=healthology&
c=goals

Carol

--
.................................................. ..........
318/247/169
71 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
.................................................. ............

I want to just "weigh in" briefly here. When I lost the first big chunk, I
got stuck because I was unwilling to even try lowering my points from what I
was eating at the time (40 something). This time, I put in some effort to
do it, and it "hurt" each time, but the end result was that I now am
perfectly happy with around 30 points a day average. I feel quite
satisfied, get to eat pretty much whatever, just smaller portions of the
whatever. I think it is important to push if stuck. I don't mean pushing
while you are already losing on what you eat at your activity level. I mean
being willing to change things when the plateaus come. That said, this is a
very sane thread.


"Carol in NC" wrote in message
om...


--

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
One of the things I decided is that I would do nothing during the weight
loss process that I could not do for the rest of my life, and that has
so
far worked for me, I for example tried to give up my bedtime snack, a
big
disaster, it is now back, I am happier and still losing weight. It
seems
to
me that giving it up would assist in faster weight loss but if I am
miserable and feeling deprived there is no point, Lee

I've adopted the same philosphy, Lee. I'm not looking at WW as soley a
way
to lose weight now. I've done that many times in the past, and always
gained the weight back. Everything that I am doing now, including
exercise,
is very thought out and I always have the end result in mind, and the
question "can I do this forever?" If the answer is no, I make little
changes until it I can truthfully say that I will be able to do it always.

Sure, I may lose much more slowly, but if this is a lifestyle change, then
that doesn't matter, does it?

THINKING is what will keep the weight off, I believe, not blindly
following
someone else's idea of what works for your own body.

Carol

.................................................. ..........
318/247/169
71 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
.................................................. ............
Carol in NC wrote in message
...
Hi all,

This is a really interesting article about setting reasonable weight
loss
goals, and the pitfalls of being too ambitious (i.e....trying to lose
too
much, too fast.)




http://www.healthology.com/focus_art...b=healthology&
c=goals

Carol

--
.................................................. ..........
318/247/169
71 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
.................................................. ............

"Lesanne" wrote in message
k.net...
I want to just "weigh in" briefly here. When I lost the first big chunk,
I
got stuck because I was unwilling to even try lowering my points from what
I
was eating at the time (40 something). This time, I put in some effort to
do it, and it "hurt" each time, but the end result was that I now am
perfectly happy with around 30 points a day average. I feel quite
satisfied, get to eat pretty much whatever, just smaller portions of the
whatever. I think it is important to push if stuck. I don't mean pushing
while you are already losing on what you eat at your activity level. I
mean
being willing to change things when the plateaus come. That said, this is
a
very sane thread.

I agree with this too Lesanne. What one thinks one NEEDS at 40 points a
day, may not be what you actually can get used to. An I agree that
sometimes we do need to push through stages.

However, if one is really pushing oneself to go another mile, to get a
couple of APs to eat, and not enjoying it, or eating far less than they
really feel they need, then it's unlikely they will keep it up later.

At each step, I examine what I'm doing. What has worked for me is to eat
extras of good, healthy food (in my high point honeymoon period) that I know
I'll not miss later. (i.e...nuts, croutons, cheese in my salad...I can do
without all of them later...energy bar and yoghurt for a snack...one will do
later.)

If I had eaten a lot of junk in my higher point days, I'd find it harder to
give up cookies and chips, I think.

The main thing is really being aware of what goes in, how much I exercise,
and (important) am I enjoying this process or is it a big pain in the rear.
So far, it's been enjoyable.

Carol


"Carol in NC" wrote in message
om...


--

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
One of the things I decided is that I would do nothing during the
weight
loss process that I could not do for the rest of my life, and that has
so
far worked for me, I for example tried to give up my bedtime snack, a
big
disaster, it is now back, I am happier and still losing weight. It
seems
to
me that giving it up would assist in faster weight loss but if I am
miserable and feeling deprived there is no point, Lee

I've adopted the same philosphy, Lee. I'm not looking at WW as soley a
way
to lose weight now. I've done that many times in the past, and always
gained the weight back. Everything that I am doing now, including
exercise,
is very thought out and I always have the end result in mind, and the
question "can I do this forever?" If the answer is no, I make little
changes until it I can truthfully say that I will be able to do it
always.

Sure, I may lose much more slowly, but if this is a lifestyle change,
then
that doesn't matter, does it?

THINKING is what will keep the weight off, I believe, not blindly
following
someone else's idea of what works for your own body.

Carol

.................................................. ..........
318/247/169
71 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
.................................................. ............
Carol in NC wrote in message
...
Hi all,

This is a really interesting article about setting reasonable weight
loss
goals, and the pitfalls of being too ambitious (i.e....trying to
lose
too
much, too fast.)





http://www.healthology.com/focus_art...b=healthology&
c=goals

Carol

--
.................................................. ..........
318/247/169
71 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
.................................................. ............

I agree Lee. I've tried giving up my evening snack, but it doesn't work for
me. I lost 36 lbs, when still having a evening snack, so will keep doing
what I'm doing as well.
--
Brenda
209/173/150
NYNY goal 160

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
One of the things I decided is that I would do nothing during the weight
loss process that I could not do for the rest of my life, and that has so
far worked for me, I for example tried to give up my bedtime snack, a big
disaster, it is now back, I am happier and still losing weight. It seems
to
me that giving it up would assist in faster weight loss but if I am
miserable and feeling deprived there is no point, Lee
Carol in NC wrote in message
...
Hi all,

This is a really interesting article about setting reasonable weight
loss
goals, and the pitfalls of being too ambitious (i.e....trying to lose
too
much, too fast.)



http://www.healthology.com/focus_art...b=healthology&
c=goals

Carol

--
.................................................. ..........
318/247/169
71 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
.................................................. ............

I agree, too.

I have lost 60 pounds having baked white and sweet potatoes as my
starch a few times a week. I have my pickled herring and bagel
sandwiches as well as pastrami and I do have my evening snacks. It
has worked reasonably well and makes the program "human" and workable
for me. I guess as long as I keep my activity level reasonable, I
should be able to continue maintaining on this food regime.

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:22:25 GMT, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

One of the things I decided is that I would do nothing during the weight
loss process that I could not do for the rest of my life, and that has so
far worked for me, I for example tried to give up my bedtime snack, a big
disaster, it is now back, I am happier and still losing weight. It seems to
me that giving it up would assist in faster weight loss but if I am
miserable and feeling deprived there is no point, Lee
Carol in NC wrote in message
m...
Hi all,

This is a really interesting article about setting reasonable weight loss
goals, and the pitfalls of being too ambitious (i.e....trying to lose too
much, too fast.)


http://www.healthology.com/focus_art...b=healthology&
c=goals

Carol

--
.................................................. ..........
318/247/169
71 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
.................................................. ............

"Fred" wrote in message
news
I agree, too.

I have lost 60 pounds having baked white and sweet potatoes as my
starch a few times a week. I have my pickled herring and bagel
sandwiches as well as pastrami and I do have my evening snacks. It
has worked reasonably well and makes the program "human" and workable
for me. I guess as long as I keep my activity level reasonable, I
should be able to continue maintaining on this food regime.

Exercise is the key, I think, Fred. One can eat a LOT of food if the output
is heavy. That's another reason why it's important to do exercise that you
genuinely like, and not just as a means to get more food. I love the extra
food, but I'm loving the exercise too....although there are days when I walk
an extra mile for that extra bit treat. ;-)

--
.................................................. ...........
318/247/169
71 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
.................................................. .............

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:22:25 GMT, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

One of the things I decided is that I would do nothing during the weight
loss process that I could not do for the rest of my life, and that has so
far worked for me, I for example tried to give up my bedtime snack, a big
disaster, it is now back, I am happier and still losing weight. It seems
to
me that giving it up would assist in faster weight loss but if I am
miserable and feeling deprived there is no point, Lee
Carol in NC wrote in message
m...
Hi all,

This is a really interesting article about setting reasonable weight
loss
goals, and the pitfalls of being too ambitious (i.e....trying to lose
too
much, too fast.)



http://www.healthology.com/focus_art...&b=healthology
&
c=goals

Carol

--
.................................................. ..........
318/247/169
71 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
.................................................. ............

It was mostly enjoyable for me, but I did have to go a couple of rather
uncomfortable weeks in order to get to goal. And now that I am here, it is
pretty easy really to not gain, although it was stressful at first. The
thing is, there were a couple of places where my body really wanted to stop
and I am glad now that I put up with a week or two of discomfort. Had it
gone on longer than that, it would have been unacceptable.

"Carol in NC" wrote in message
news

"Lesanne" wrote in message
k.net...
I want to just "weigh in" briefly here. When I lost the first big
chunk,
I
got stuck because I was unwilling to even try lowering my points from
what
I
was eating at the time (40 something). This time, I put in some effort
to
do it, and it "hurt" each time, but the end result was that I now am
perfectly happy with around 30 points a day average. I feel quite
satisfied, get to eat pretty much whatever, just smaller portions of the
whatever. I think it is important to push if stuck. I don't mean
pushing
while you are already losing on what you eat at your activity level. I
mean
being willing to change things when the plateaus come. That said, this
is
a
very sane thread.

I agree with this too Lesanne. What one thinks one NEEDS at 40 points a
day, may not be what you actually can get used to. An I agree that
sometimes we do need to push through stages.

However, if one is really pushing oneself to go another mile, to get a
couple of APs to eat, and not enjoying it, or eating far less than they
really feel they need, then it's unlikely they will keep it up later.

At each step, I examine what I'm doing. What has worked for me is to eat
extras of good, healthy food (in my high point honeymoon period) that I
know
I'll not miss later. (i.e...nuts, croutons, cheese in my salad...I can do
without all of them later...energy bar and yoghurt for a snack...one will
do
later.)

If I had eaten a lot of junk in my higher point days, I'd find it harder
to
give up cookies and chips, I think.

The main thing is really being aware of what goes in, how much I exercise,
and (important) am I enjoying this process or is it a big pain in the
rear.
So far, it's been enjoyable.

Carol


"Carol in NC" wrote in message
om...


--

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
One of the things I decided is that I would do nothing during the
weight
loss process that I could not do for the rest of my life, and that
has
so
far worked for me, I for example tried to give up my bedtime snack,
a
big
disaster, it is now back, I am happier and still losing weight. It
seems
to
me that giving it up would assist in faster weight loss but if I am
miserable and feeling deprived there is no point, Lee

I've adopted the same philosphy, Lee. I'm not looking at WW as soley
a
way
to lose weight now. I've done that many times in the past, and always
gained the weight back. Everything that I am doing now, including
exercise,
is very thought out and I always have the end result in mind, and the
question "can I do this forever?" If the answer is no, I make little
changes until it I can truthfully say that I will be able to do it
always.

Sure, I may lose much more slowly, but if this is a lifestyle change,
then
that doesn't matter, does it?

THINKING is what will keep the weight off, I believe, not blindly
following
someone else's idea of what works for your own body.

Carol

.................................................. ..........
318/247/169
71 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
.................................................. ............
Carol in NC wrote in message
...
Hi all,

This is a really interesting article about setting reasonable
weight
loss
goals, and the pitfalls of being too ambitious (i.e....trying to
lose
too
much, too fast.)






http://www.healthology.com/focus_art...b=healthology&
c=goals

Carol

--
.................................................. ..........
318/247/169
71 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
.................................................. ............

You've done a good job maintaining, Lesanne. I hope I'm as successful.

Carol

--
.................................................. ...........
318/247/169
71 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
.................................................. .............
"Lesanne" wrote in message
ink.net...
It was mostly enjoyable for me, but I did have to go a couple of rather
uncomfortable weeks in order to get to goal. And now that I am here, it
is
pretty easy really to not gain, although it was stressful at first. The
thing is, there were a couple of places where my body really wanted to
stop
and I am glad now that I put up with a week or two of discomfort. Had it
gone on longer than that, it would have been unacceptable.

"Carol in NC" wrote in message
news

"Lesanne" wrote in message
k.net...
I want to just "weigh in" briefly here. When I lost the first big
chunk,
I
got stuck because I was unwilling to even try lowering my points from
what
I
was eating at the time (40 something). This time, I put in some
effort
to
do it, and it "hurt" each time, but the end result was that I now am
perfectly happy with around 30 points a day average. I feel quite
satisfied, get to eat pretty much whatever, just smaller portions of
the
whatever. I think it is important to push if stuck. I don't mean
pushing
while you are already losing on what you eat at your activity level.
I
mean
being willing to change things when the plateaus come. That said,
this
is
a
very sane thread.

I agree with this too Lesanne. What one thinks one NEEDS at 40 points a
day, may not be what you actually can get used to. An I agree that
sometimes we do need to push through stages.

However, if one is really pushing oneself to go another mile, to get a
couple of APs to eat, and not enjoying it, or eating far less than they
really feel they need, then it's unlikely they will keep it up later.

At each step, I examine what I'm doing. What has worked for me is to
eat
extras of good, healthy food (in my high point honeymoon period) that I
know
I'll not miss later. (i.e...nuts, croutons, cheese in my salad...I can
do
without all of them later...energy bar and yoghurt for a snack...one
will
do
later.)

If I had eaten a lot of junk in my higher point days, I'd find it harder
to
give up cookies and chips, I think.

The main thing is really being aware of what goes in, how much I
exercise,
and (important) am I enjoying this process or is it a big pain in the
rear.
So far, it's been enjoyable.

Carol


"Carol in NC" wrote in message
om...


--

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
One of the things I decided is that I would do nothing during the
weight
loss process that I could not do for the rest of my life, and that
has
so
far worked for me, I for example tried to give up my bedtime
snack,
a
big
disaster, it is now back, I am happier and still losing weight.
It
seems
to
me that giving it up would assist in faster weight loss but if I
am
miserable and feeling deprived there is no point, Lee

I've adopted the same philosphy, Lee. I'm not looking at WW as
soley
a
way
to lose weight now. I've done that many times in the past, and
always
gained the weight back. Everything that I am doing now, including
exercise,
is very thought out and I always have the end result in mind, and
the
question "can I do this forever?" If the answer is no, I make
little
changes until it I can truthfully say that I will be able to do it
always.

Sure, I may lose much more slowly, but if this is a lifestyle
change,
then
that doesn't matter, does it?

THINKING is what will keep the weight off, I believe, not blindly
following
someone else's idea of what works for your own body.

Carol

.................................................. ..........
318/247/169
71 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
.................................................. ............
Carol in NC wrote in message
...
Hi all,

This is a really interesting article about setting reasonable
weight
loss
goals, and the pitfalls of being too ambitious (i.e....trying to
lose
too
much, too fast.)







http://www.healthology.com/focus_art...b=healthology&
c=goals

Carol

--
.................................................. ..........
318/247/169
71 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
.................................................. ............

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:22:25 GMT, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

One of the things I decided is that I would do nothing during the weight
loss process that I could not do for the rest of my life, and that has so
far worked for me, I for example tried to give up my bedtime snack, a big
disaster, it is now back, I am happier and still losing weight. It seems to
me that giving it up would assist in faster weight loss but if I am
miserable and feeling deprived there is no point, Lee

That's how I feel about it too Lee. I'm an evening snacker and rather
than try and change that, and being miserable in the process, I just
make sure to save points and I've changed what I snack on. I'm happy
and I'm losing weight, best of both worlds :-)

--
Erin in NZ
125/88/75 kgs
275.3/193.8/165 lbs

NYNY goal 180.6lbs (82 kilos)

"It is not the mountain we conquer, it is ourselves"
Sir Edmund Hilary

I guess I do not really balance the exercise with the extra food in
any conscious way. I really like the hiking and biking and did it
before and continue it now. I just know that I need extra food so
don't treat it as earning the extra - at least, not consciously. But
I imagine that if I fell off the exercise, I would definitely know it
and would have to really exercise control over intake. But then again
maybe (MAYBE!!) less exercise would also lessen the appetite some. It
is the "mindless" eating that I did before which I have more control
over.

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:33:19 GMT, "Carol in NC"
wrote:




"Fred" wrote in message
news
I agree, too.

I have lost 60 pounds having baked white and sweet potatoes as my
starch a few times a week. I have my pickled herring and bagel
sandwiches as well as pastrami and I do have my evening snacks. It
has worked reasonably well and makes the program "human" and workable
for me. I guess as long as I keep my activity level reasonable, I
should be able to continue maintaining on this food regime.

Exercise is the key, I think, Fred. One can eat a LOT of food if the output
is heavy. That's another reason why it's important to do exercise that you
genuinely like, and not just as a means to get more food. I love the extra
food, but I'm loving the exercise too....although there are days when I walk
an extra mile for that extra bit treat. ;-)