Starting Over

I almost forgot, WW addresses this with the pie thingy where you answer some
questions and then they give you guidelines, Lee
Fred wrote in message
...
You might need more carbs or at least, you need a balance. Whatever
works.

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:39:15 -0500, Joyce wrote:

I'm not a low carb fan, I like my carbs. g I have noticed the past
month or so
that if I go higher on protein, I don't seem to feel full for some goofy
reason.
I know others claim that eating more protein will carry you further
between meals
- but it doesn't seem to work that way for me. Higher protein and less
carbs tend
to have me grazing within an hour or so. It might be something in my
head, but I
think I need my carbs.

Joyce

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 06:17:41 -0700, Fred
wrote:

You know, this past week or so may show that NO CARBS might be
something to consider to break what I see is my rise in carbo intake -
extreme consumption. But this morning as I plan for my hike/climb
(there may be a touch of scrambling), I know that just protein would
not get me up what is a VERTICAL staircase (climbers trail which does
not believe in switchbacks). I need carbs for such endeavors.

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:49:00 -0500, Joyce wrote:

hehehe - now this is a much better start! Welcome to our little corner
of the
world Graeme. You definitely are welcome to join in the discussions
and start
some topics of your own. I don't think there are many lo/no carbers
about, as
most of us here follow more along the lines of the ww program or
calorie
counting. But ya never know. And it really doesn't matter as to what
plan anyone
is following, we all have come from the same place and are trying hard
to get to
or stay at a healthier weight.

It doesn't matter at all if you post in metric or imperial, we get a
bit of both
here. I have a converter on my desktop, for when I don't have a clue
what the
metric units convert to. g We all tend to go with the flow.
Overall, we are a
pretty easy going, friendly group.

Congrats on losing over 44 lbs. already (see, that converter came in
handy here -
lol), that is quite an accomplishment and one you should be very proud
of, as well
as that declining waistline.

For the past year I have been thinking the same thing ... hoping I can
stay where
I am!

joyce
WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
current weight: 132.0
total loss: 96.8
Lifetime: 4/4/03

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 05:03:12 GMT, "Graeme S Baker"

wrote:

Hello,

I have had ongoing problems with my weight, diet, and fitness for
nearly 40
years.

Having read many of the converstions and ongoing threads in this
newsgroup,
it appears this might be a place where I could join the discussion and
start
some topics of my own.

I live in Melbourne, Australia and work as an actor in film and
television.

Does it matter if I use metric, or would you prefer imperial
measurements.

I have lost over 20kg, losing excess fat and gaining muscle tone. My
waist
size has also changed from 102cm down to 82cm.

I just hope things are going to stay this way. Please let things stay
this
way!

Graeme.

I almost forgot, WW addresses this with the pie thingy where you answer some
questions and then they give you guidelines, Lee
Fred wrote in message
...
You might need more carbs or at least, you need a balance. Whatever
works.

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:39:15 -0500, Joyce wrote:

I'm not a low carb fan, I like my carbs. g I have noticed the past
month or so
that if I go higher on protein, I don't seem to feel full for some goofy
reason.
I know others claim that eating more protein will carry you further
between meals
- but it doesn't seem to work that way for me. Higher protein and less
carbs tend
to have me grazing within an hour or so. It might be something in my
head, but I
think I need my carbs.

Joyce

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 06:17:41 -0700, Fred
wrote:

You know, this past week or so may show that NO CARBS might be
something to consider to break what I see is my rise in carbo intake -
extreme consumption. But this morning as I plan for my hike/climb
(there may be a touch of scrambling), I know that just protein would
not get me up what is a VERTICAL staircase (climbers trail which does
not believe in switchbacks). I need carbs for such endeavors.

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:49:00 -0500, Joyce wrote:

hehehe - now this is a much better start! Welcome to our little corner
of the
world Graeme. You definitely are welcome to join in the discussions
and start
some topics of your own. I don't think there are many lo/no carbers
about, as
most of us here follow more along the lines of the ww program or
calorie
counting. But ya never know. And it really doesn't matter as to what
plan anyone
is following, we all have come from the same place and are trying hard
to get to
or stay at a healthier weight.

It doesn't matter at all if you post in metric or imperial, we get a
bit of both
here. I have a converter on my desktop, for when I don't have a clue
what the
metric units convert to. g We all tend to go with the flow.
Overall, we are a
pretty easy going, friendly group.

Congrats on losing over 44 lbs. already (see, that converter came in
handy here -
lol), that is quite an accomplishment and one you should be very proud
of, as well
as that declining waistline.

For the past year I have been thinking the same thing ... hoping I can
stay where
I am!

joyce
WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
current weight: 132.0
total loss: 96.8
Lifetime: 4/4/03

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 05:03:12 GMT, "Graeme S Baker"

wrote:

Hello,

I have had ongoing problems with my weight, diet, and fitness for
nearly 40
years.

Having read many of the converstions and ongoing threads in this
newsgroup,
it appears this might be a place where I could join the discussion and
start
some topics of my own.

I live in Melbourne, Australia and work as an actor in film and
television.

Does it matter if I use metric, or would you prefer imperial
measurements.

I have lost over 20kg, losing excess fat and gaining muscle tone. My
waist
size has also changed from 102cm down to 82cm.

I just hope things are going to stay this way. Please let things stay
this
way!

Graeme.

style of eating is like the carb/protein one, I tried to go to three meals
and two snacks, it was a disaster, I eat several times a day in the 2/4
point area and have one large meal a day in the 6/10 range, giving up my
bedtime snack found me at the refrigerator eating, I had never eaten like
that before. I am back to grazing and my bedtime snack is different, fruit,
yogurt instead of a cookie but the act is there, Lee, who finds eating
styles very interesting
Fred wrote in message
...


On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 00:58:34 -0500, Joyce wrote:

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 17:28:43 -0700, Fred
wrote:



On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 10:46:32 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Maybe a balance thing - some carbs but not overdone? Yesterday I found
after
lunch I was full for the entire afternoon - heavier carbs due to fruit,
potatoes
and that whole wheat english muffin ... or just because it was a larger
midday
meal than norm? Dinner was fish and veggies, salad, soup - I found
myself looking
for something/anything about 3 hours later. I avoided but still, the
hunger (or
something) was there. I'm going to have to think about this for
awhile. g

That is interesting. Most of these days my lunch is definitely the
smaller meal. There were days in the past, when lunch would be
Mexican Food or a large lunch at a Japanese restaurant. I do NOT do
that any longer. Maybe a rare birthday lunch with someone and even
then, I will usually order something smaller or take stuff home.
Dinner is still generally my bigger meal. Maybe that does carry me
through better but there is still a snacking urge too many days
lately.

My lunch is usually always a smaller meal - the above was rare for me. I
tend to
feel the same way when I go out for lunch though. Larger than normal
lunch meal
leaves me not hungry at dinner. Normal dinner meals for me are my large
meal of
the day - usually 10 or so points. And this carries me a long time.
Many nights
I don't have any snacks afterwards, or have to force myself to have
something.
The urge to snack tends to hit me in those wee hours - when I probably
should be
sleeping. If I am asleep, then I can't eat ... right? G

I have been trying to enforce the rule - if it is 9:30 pm and bedtime
is only about 1/2 hour away, I do NOT need a snack of any kind. Most
times I do win that battle but sometimes the snacks do.

Joyce

OH man I missed this group, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:45:27 -0700, Fred
wrote:

Evening is usually my worst snacking time. Yesterday WORK came a
close second. Actually tapered off in the evening after yesterday
afternoon.

Work never bothered me, there was never any food around the office (when
I
worked). But lunches out were nasty - long and heavy. I could get away
with it
in my single days, just didn't bother eating dinner. It probably would
kill me
now. g Evenings, the boredom seems to creep up which leads to those
munching
urges. I just keep fighting them, sometimes successful - sometimes not.

Actually, I generally do well at work and had declared everyone's
candy dish offlimits and skip most birthday parties not in our
immediate group. But the last few weeks I do a quick supermarket run
and seem to have found the spice drops and the juicy fruits (imitation
by Brachs!) and been draining them. But yesterday was a bad day.
Going away party, the supermarket and then the cheerios breakin (g) on
the drive home.

Are the spice drops lower in points? I have been eyeing the larger
packages but
feared even looking at the label - just keep walking past them. I forgot
all
about the smaller sized ones, which would be perfect! I love all the
smaller
sized candy available now. My grandson is in love with Popables, hub
always keeps
a bag of them for the boy. I've found I have no problem just having one
piece -
helps with the chocolate cravings sometimes. I still can't believe you
hit the
cheerios so hard. Probably because I detest them. g

I need to get back to discipline (watch it!!!!)

I am not saying a word!

Joyce

On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 06:40:37 -0700, Fred wrote:



Are the spice drops lower in points? I have been eyeing the larger packages but
feared even looking at the label - just keep walking past them. I forgot all
about the smaller sized ones, which would be perfect! I love all the smaller
sized candy available now. My grandson is in love with Popables, hub always keeps
a bag of them for the boy. I've found I have no problem just having one piece -
helps with the chocolate cravings sometimes. I still can't believe you hit the
cheerios so hard. Probably because I detest them. g

Many of the "jelly" candies are about the same - 120 or so fat-free
calories per serving. I am still sometimes amazed that there must be
that much sugar in these various candies. It they could up the
GEL-content and cut the sugar maybe it would be a reasonable candy
anyway or TASTELESS (G)

That's not too bad, for the small drop like ones. Those I could handle nicely,
eating just a few - probably a fraction of what is considered a serving size. I
tend to do that with the candy these days. 1 or 2 hershey kisses, or m&m's, or
popables ... enough for a taste, not a killer calorie wise. I really don't want
them to up the gel content - then it only feels like I'm chewing something that
wants to pull my teeth out. g Probably why I no longer chew gum.


I like cheerios and recently discovered that the HoneyNut variety is
not much different than the regular. Actually, less fat and more
sugar I think. Pretty close overall. Traffic was bad and I was
hungry!

Maybe it's one of those breakfast item things ... I don't enjoy breakfast. The
only cereal I really do like is Raisin Bran and have learned to enjoy oatmeal.
But I did find something the other day that I enjoyed immensely ... cookie
crackers (as I'm calling them). Two varieties, Oreo's and Chips Ahoy I believe,
manufactured in thin crisps like crackers but taste very similar to the cookies.
The ones we found were packaged in 100 calorie bags, 6 bags to a box. I love
presorted portion control! G


Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:47:09 -0700, Fred wrote:

Maybe it's one of those breakfast item things ... I don't enjoy breakfast. The
only cereal I really do like is Raisin Bran and have learned to enjoy oatmeal.
But I did find something the other day that I enjoyed immensely ... cookie
crackers (as I'm calling them). Two varieties, Oreo's and Chips Ahoy I believe,
manufactured in thin crisps like crackers but taste very similar to the cookies.
The ones we found were packaged in 100 calorie bags, 6 bags to a box. I love
presorted portion control! G

And yesterday it was the new Quaker Oatmeal squares with brown sugar.
A costco purchase. On the way home before lunch.....

I'm thinking here ........ maybe you need to eliminate Costco from your shopping
list. Too large of quantities which keep calling out your name. g

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:47:09 -0700, Fred wrote:

Maybe it's one of those breakfast item things ... I don't enjoy breakfast. The
only cereal I really do like is Raisin Bran and have learned to enjoy oatmeal.
But I did find something the other day that I enjoyed immensely ... cookie
crackers (as I'm calling them). Two varieties, Oreo's and Chips Ahoy I believe,
manufactured in thin crisps like crackers but taste very similar to the cookies.
The ones we found were packaged in 100 calorie bags, 6 bags to a box. I love
presorted portion control! G

And yesterday it was the new Quaker Oatmeal squares with brown sugar.
A costco purchase. On the way home before lunch.....

I'm thinking here ........ maybe you need to eliminate Costco from your shopping
list. Too large of quantities which keep calling out your name. g

Joyce

I have a tough time resisting their samples, but now I'm at least limiting it to
things that I'm REALLY interested in, instead of grabbing just because it's there.
If hub is with me, I often am able to talk him into splitting one sample with me.
I figure it helps a bit. g

Probably a good thing for me that I keep all my purchases in the trunk of the car
- makes it much harder to get to when those munchie attacks hit.

Joyce

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 06:53:10 -0700, Fred wrote:

Nah, just that I go just a bit too early for lunch hour but am heading
home around then. And I have this bottomless supply of something I
just purchased that interested me. And I do a good job of generally
skipping their samples, particularly, the less NICE ones. Last time
it was the Caramel Apple Pie. I really did skip it and they were
giving out a very sizeable chunk (G)

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 01:05:44 -0500, Joyce wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:47:09 -0700, Fred wrote:

Maybe it's one of those breakfast item things ... I don't enjoy breakfast. The
only cereal I really do like is Raisin Bran and have learned to enjoy oatmeal.
But I did find something the other day that I enjoyed immensely ... cookie
crackers (as I'm calling them). Two varieties, Oreo's and Chips Ahoy I believe,
manufactured in thin crisps like crackers but taste very similar to the cookies.
The ones we found were packaged in 100 calorie bags, 6 bags to a box. I love
presorted portion control! G

And yesterday it was the new Quaker Oatmeal squares with brown sugar.
A costco purchase. On the way home before lunch.....

I'm thinking here ........ maybe you need to eliminate Costco from your shopping
list. Too large of quantities which keep calling out your name. g

Joyce

I have a tough time resisting their samples, but now I'm at least limiting it to
things that I'm REALLY interested in, instead of grabbing just because it's there.
If hub is with me, I often am able to talk him into splitting one sample with me.
I figure it helps a bit. g

Probably a good thing for me that I keep all my purchases in the trunk of the car
- makes it much harder to get to when those munchie attacks hit.

Joyce

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 06:53:10 -0700, Fred wrote:

Nah, just that I go just a bit too early for lunch hour but am heading
home around then. And I have this bottomless supply of something I
just purchased that interested me. And I do a good job of generally
skipping their samples, particularly, the less NICE ones. Last time
it was the Caramel Apple Pie. I really did skip it and they were
giving out a very sizeable chunk (G)

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 01:05:44 -0500, Joyce wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:47:09 -0700, Fred wrote:

Maybe it's one of those breakfast item things ... I don't enjoy breakfast. The
only cereal I really do like is Raisin Bran and have learned to enjoy oatmeal.
But I did find something the other day that I enjoyed immensely ... cookie
crackers (as I'm calling them). Two varieties, Oreo's and Chips Ahoy I believe,
manufactured in thin crisps like crackers but taste very similar to the cookies.
The ones we found were packaged in 100 calorie bags, 6 bags to a box. I love
presorted portion control! G

And yesterday it was the new Quaker Oatmeal squares with brown sugar.
A costco purchase. On the way home before lunch.....

I'm thinking here ........ maybe you need to eliminate Costco from your shopping
list. Too large of quantities which keep calling out your name. g

Joyce

I lucked out at Sam's. Two of the women that give out the samples are women
who are partners with two managers in my program, when we walk up if it
isn't worth the points, both have been on ww in the past, they say save your
points, and I move on, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
...
I have a tough time resisting their samples, but now I'm at least limiting
it to
things that I'm REALLY interested in, instead of grabbing just because
it's there.
If hub is with me, I often am able to talk him into splitting one sample
with me.
I figure it helps a bit. g

Probably a good thing for me that I keep all my purchases in the trunk of
the car
- makes it much harder to get to when those munchie attacks hit.

Joyce

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 06:53:10 -0700, Fred
wrote:

Nah, just that I go just a bit too early for lunch hour but am heading
home around then. And I have this bottomless supply of something I
just purchased that interested me. And I do a good job of generally
skipping their samples, particularly, the less NICE ones. Last time
it was the Caramel Apple Pie. I really did skip it and they were
giving out a very sizeable chunk (G)

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 01:05:44 -0500, Joyce wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:47:09 -0700, Fred
wrote:

Maybe it's one of those breakfast item things ... I don't enjoy
breakfast. The
only cereal I really do like is Raisin Bran and have learned to enjoy
oatmeal.
But I did find something the other day that I enjoyed immensely ...
cookie
crackers (as I'm calling them). Two varieties, Oreo's and Chips Ahoy
I believe,
manufactured in thin crisps like crackers but taste very similar to
the cookies.
The ones we found were packaged in 100 calorie bags, 6 bags to a box.
I love
presorted portion control! G

And yesterday it was the new Quaker Oatmeal squares with brown sugar.
A costco purchase. On the way home before lunch.....

I'm thinking here ........ maybe you need to eliminate Costco from your
shopping
list. Too large of quantities which keep calling out your name. g

Joyce