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Old April 19th, 2004, 02:49 PM
Cp
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Hey all ... again

I'll catch you all up on my progress so far. Since being perscribed
anti-depressants for anxiety attacks I've had no trouble keeping to a
healthy lifestyle. I've lost 11lbs as of this morning (I'm a little
concerned because friday it was a 1.5 less, but oh well).

I posted earlier about whether or not I should be eating more (and had
decided that since I wasn't hungry I should just listen to my body) but as
I settle into this lifestyle I find that my calorie levels are actually
dropping a bit. Here's my problem. I don't seem to be getting enough
calories through out the day and end up with a grumbly tummy at 9pm. Most
days it's between 1200 and 1300, with an occassional 1100. To make up the
difference I usually have a snack at around 9pm (when I feel hungry) and
it's usually a slice of toast (yesterday I added some grapes). I don't like
doing that for a few reasons. One is that I think it gives me strange
twilight zone dreams and the other is because I'm not comfortable consuming
calories so late at night. I'd like to stop any eating by 7pm.(Dinner is
usually between 5 and 6pm). I could start eating a snack during the day but
I find that I don't really need one (ie, I'm not hungry for one) or I can
keep my calorie levels low but then where do I go when I need to change.
Also I'm worried about my body holding on to calories because I'm not
getting enough. Or I can keep eating late night snacks (and FYI, my usual
bedtime is between 10 and 11pm) which I don't really want to do.

Now this is where y'all come in. Do I force myself to eat more during the
day (the reason for such low calories is because I eat mostly fruits and
veggies). Do I eat higher calorie foods during the day? Do I keep snacking
at night (which I really don't think is good). Do I just stay where I'm at
and ignore the grumbles of my tummy at 9pm? Soon I'll be adding more
exercise to my day (daily 1hr walks starting today) so the extra calories
will be even more important. Is there any other option I'm not considering?
Please help! I've never had this problem before.

Cp


  #2  
Old April 19th, 2004, 04:04 PM
malarkey
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A few things: eat a bit later in the evening (its really not bad to eat at
or after 7pm) or just ignore the grumblies. Find something to occupy
yourself, drink a glass of water, etc.

"Ignoramus8790" wrote in message
...
I would just stop eating at night, and eat a bit more during your
dinner. In my case, the grumbles in my tummy were gone after a few days.

i

In article

able.rogers.com, Cp
wrote:
Hey all ... again


I posted earlier about whether or not I should be eating more (and had
decided that since I wasn't hungry I should just listen to my body) but

as
I settle into this lifestyle I find that my calorie levels are actually
dropping a bit. Here's my problem. I don't seem to be getting enough
calories through out the day and end up with a grumbly tummy at 9pm.



  #3  
Old April 19th, 2004, 04:54 PM
GaryG
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If I'm feeling hungry after 9pm, I eat 3 or 4 raw almonds, with a glass of
water. Just a few will help with hunger, and they're a pretty healthy
snack.

FWIW, each almond has approximately 7 calories, 0.6 g of fat (the good
kind), 0.3 g protein, 0.2 g carbs, and 0.1 g fiber.

GG

"Cp" wrote in message
et.cable.rogers.com...
Hey all ... again

I'll catch you all up on my progress so far. Since being perscribed
anti-depressants for anxiety attacks I've had no trouble keeping to a
healthy lifestyle. I've lost 11lbs as of this morning (I'm a little
concerned because friday it was a 1.5 less, but oh well).

I posted earlier about whether or not I should be eating more (and had
decided that since I wasn't hungry I should just listen to my body) but

as
I settle into this lifestyle I find that my calorie levels are actually
dropping a bit. Here's my problem. I don't seem to be getting enough
calories through out the day and end up with a grumbly tummy at 9pm. Most
days it's between 1200 and 1300, with an occassional 1100. To make up the
difference I usually have a snack at around 9pm (when I feel hungry) and
it's usually a slice of toast (yesterday I added some grapes). I don't

like
doing that for a few reasons. One is that I think it gives me strange
twilight zone dreams and the other is because I'm not comfortable

consuming
calories so late at night. I'd like to stop any eating by 7pm.(Dinner is
usually between 5 and 6pm). I could start eating a snack during the day

but
I find that I don't really need one (ie, I'm not hungry for one) or I can
keep my calorie levels low but then where do I go when I need to change.
Also I'm worried about my body holding on to calories because I'm not
getting enough. Or I can keep eating late night snacks (and FYI, my usual
bedtime is between 10 and 11pm) which I don't really want to do.

Now this is where y'all come in. Do I force myself to eat more during the
day (the reason for such low calories is because I eat mostly fruits and
veggies). Do I eat higher calorie foods during the day? Do I keep

snacking
at night (which I really don't think is good). Do I just stay where I'm

at
and ignore the grumbles of my tummy at 9pm? Soon I'll be adding more
exercise to my day (daily 1hr walks starting today) so the extra calories
will be even more important. Is there any other option I'm not

considering?
Please help! I've never had this problem before.

Cp




  #4  
Old April 19th, 2004, 05:17 PM
Lictor
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"Cp" wrote in message
et.cable.rogers.com...
To make up the
difference I usually have a snack at around 9pm (when I feel hungry) and
it's usually a slice of toast (yesterday I added some grapes). I don't

like
doing that for a few reasons.


lol
9pm is when I actually start cooking dinner... My biological clock is
definately set to Southern Europe...
Have you experienced with different kind of "snack"? I mean, in the part of
the world where people have dinner so early, you usually have a fourth
meal - the supper. Maybe just having soup would be enough to calm down the
hunger until the following morning. I mean a soup (mixed vegatables), not a
whole meal floating in water (like a Chinese pho) . At least, it's not
junk food, and you will get more daily vegetables and vitamins (always a
good thing).

One is that I think it gives me strange
twilight zone dreams and the other is because I'm not comfortable

consuming
calories so late at night. I'd like to stop any eating by 7pm.


Why are you not comfortable with that? I mean, except for the dreams?
Some people cannot sleep while they are trying to digest an heavy meal, this
is part of genetic unfairness (I can eat chili con carne and go to sleep
within minutes, no problem). That would be another argument for trying stuff
like soup, they're usually easy to digest.

(Dinner is
usually between 5 and 6pm).


If I had dinner that early (that would actually feel like having tapas or
afternoon tea), I would certainly be hungry by 9pm! Unless I had really
over-eaten at 5pm.

Or I can keep eating late night snacks (and FYI, my usual
bedtime is between 10 and 11pm) which I don't really want to do.


If you're worried about fat being stored at night or stuff like this, I
don't think it has received any real scientific proof. Part of the world
eats very late (Spain, Italy, part of France, countries where supper is not
uncommon like Ireland...), and obesity level is not higher than in countries
where dinner is very early (mostly England, USA, Germany). Anyway, most of
the things that are easy to digest (soup, fruits) are also pretty low
calorie.

Do I keep snacking at night (which I really don't think is good).


9pm is not night, it's barely evening
If you actually have any serious study showing that it is bad to eat late, I
would really like to see it. It seems to contradit the cultural practice
from many countries...

Do I just stay where I'm at and ignore the grumbles of my tummy at 9pm?


That's not very pleasant... There is also the risk that you will be *really*
hungry for breakfast and over-eat. Besides, don't the grumbles prevent you
from sleeping?

Soon I'll be adding more exercise to my day (daily 1hr walks starting

today) so the extra calories
will be even more important.


Exercise will also make you hungrier, it does for most people. Especially if
you walk right before meals instead of after them (which is not the best
time to have serious exercise - you're busy digesting and insulin level is
high). So, as far as calories are concerned, exercising should take care of
itself.


  #5  
Old April 19th, 2004, 05:34 PM
A Ross
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In article
able.
rogers.com, "Cp" wrote:

Snippage
Do I
just stay where I'm at
and ignore the grumbles of my tummy at 9pm? Soon I'll be
adding more
exercise to my day (daily 1hr walks starting today) so
the extra calories
will be even more important. Is there any other option
I'm not considering?
Please help! I've never had this problem before.

Cp



Hi!
My body also tells me I need a little snack around 9
p.m., but I think it has very little to do with hunger
and more to do with long-ingrained snacking habits. 9
p.m. seems to be my wind-down time--dinner's over,
dishes are done, kids are in bed, I finally get to sit
down and relax, read or watch TV, and hey, doesn't a
snack sound good?

I find that if I make myself a mug of broth or hot tea
to sip on as I relax, the hunger pangs go away. If the
pangs persist, and I do a mental check of what I ate
and find that "oops, forgot to have my 2 p.m. snack," I
may have a treat, or at least a bite of whatever DH is
chomping on. (He can eat like nobody's business, and
has weighed 165 since high school--over twenty years
ago.)

So, if you're really hungry, and you know you haven't
reached your count for the day, enjoy a small snack. If
you find that you're body is just used to snacking that
time of night, find an alternative.

Good luck!

Amy
168/117
  #6  
Old April 19th, 2004, 06:28 PM
That T Woman
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"Cp" wrote in message
et.cable.rogers.com...
Hey all ... again

I'll catch you all up on my progress so far. Since being perscribed
anti-depressants for anxiety attacks I've had no trouble keeping to a
healthy lifestyle. I've lost 11lbs as of this morning (I'm a little
concerned because friday it was a 1.5 less, but oh well).

I posted earlier about whether or not I should be eating more (and had
decided that since I wasn't hungry I should just listen to my body) but

as
I settle into this lifestyle I find that my calorie levels are actually
dropping a bit. Here's my problem. I don't seem to be getting enough
calories through out the day and end up with a grumbly tummy at 9pm. Most
days it's between 1200 and 1300, with an occassional 1100. To make up the
difference I usually have a snack at around 9pm (when I feel hungry) and
it's usually a slice of toast (yesterday I added some grapes). I don't

like
doing that for a few reasons. One is that I think it gives me strange
twilight zone dreams and the other is because I'm not comfortable

consuming
calories so late at night. I'd like to stop any eating by 7pm.(Dinner is
usually between 5 and 6pm). I could start eating a snack during the day

but
I find that I don't really need one (ie, I'm not hungry for one) or I can
keep my calorie levels low but then where do I go when I need to change.
Also I'm worried about my body holding on to calories because I'm not
getting enough. Or I can keep eating late night snacks (and FYI, my usual
bedtime is between 10 and 11pm) which I don't really want to do.

Now this is where y'all come in. Do I force myself to eat more during the
day (the reason for such low calories is because I eat mostly fruits and
veggies). Do I eat higher calorie foods during the day? Do I keep

snacking
at night (which I really don't think is good). Do I just stay where I'm

at
and ignore the grumbles of my tummy at 9pm? Soon I'll be adding more
exercise to my day (daily 1hr walks starting today) so the extra calories
will be even more important. Is there any other option I'm not

considering?
Please help! I've never had this problem before.

Cp


Maybe have something protein for your snack like a small cube of cheese or
some peanut butter on a celery stick instead of the bread and grapes. The
protein would probably satisfy you longer than the carby things.

As for the twilight zone dreams, I find I have them when I get too warm at
night either from a low grade fever, having too much bed covers or just the
room is too hot. The weird dreams may have nothing to do with your snack is
my thought. Check out your bedroom conditions next time you have the
dreams.

Tonia
221/186/130


  #7  
Old April 19th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Cp
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"malarkey" wrote in message
news:FTRgc.166193$w54.1118348@attbi_s01...
A few things: eat a bit later in the evening (its really not bad to eat at
or after 7pm) or just ignore the grumblies. Find something to occupy
yourself, drink a glass of water, etc.

"Ignoramus8790" wrote in message
...
I would just stop eating at night, and eat a bit more during your
dinner. In my case, the grumbles in my tummy were gone after a few days.

i

I actually don't have a problem ignoring the grumblies. It's more the
calorie thing I'm worried/wondering about.


  #8  
Old April 19th, 2004, 08:50 PM
Cp
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"GaryG" wrote in message
...
If I'm feeling hungry after 9pm, I eat 3 or 4 raw almonds, with a glass of
water. Just a few will help with hunger, and they're a pretty healthy
snack.

FWIW, each almond has approximately 7 calories, 0.6 g of fat (the good
kind), 0.3 g protein, 0.2 g carbs, and 0.1 g fiber.

GG


I wouldn't have trouble ignoring the grumblies. It's just the extra
calories with no where to go while I sleep thing.


  #9  
Old April 19th, 2004, 09:05 PM
Cp
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"Lictor" wrote in message
...
"Cp" wrote in message
et.cable.rogers.com...
To make up the
difference I usually have a snack at around 9pm (when I feel hungry) and
it's usually a slice of toast (yesterday I added some grapes). I don't

like
doing that for a few reasons.


lol
9pm is when I actually start cooking dinner... My biological clock is
definately set to Southern Europe...
Have you experienced with different kind of "snack"? I mean, in the part

of
the world where people have dinner so early, you usually have a fourth
meal - the supper. Maybe just having soup would be enough to calm down the
hunger until the following morning. I mean a soup (mixed vegatables), not

a
whole meal floating in water (like a Chinese pho) . At least, it's not
junk food, and you will get more daily vegetables and vitamins (always a
good thing).


I don't need anything heavy at night.. in fact that's just it. I could
easily ignore the grumbles and have nothing at all. My worry was calories
while I sleep sort of thing.

One is that I think it gives me strange
twilight zone dreams and the other is because I'm not comfortable

consuming
calories so late at night. I'd like to stop any eating by 7pm.


Why are you not comfortable with that? I mean, except for the dreams?
Some people cannot sleep while they are trying to digest an heavy meal,

this
is part of genetic unfairness (I can eat chili con carne and go to sleep
within minutes, no problem). That would be another argument for trying

stuff
like soup, they're usually easy to digest.


It's totally a mental thing. I don't have trouble sleeping (aside from the
nightmares). I just have a mental state where I feel that eating so close
to bedtime is giving my body calories that won't get burned up anywhere.

(Dinner is
usually between 5 and 6pm).


If I had dinner that early (that would actually feel like having tapas or
afternoon tea), I would certainly be hungry by 9pm! Unless I had really
over-eaten at 5pm.


My meal times are regular north american times... if there is such a thing
My 5pm meal is usually the largest (which technically I've read is done
the wrong way).

Or I can keep eating late night snacks (and FYI, my usual
bedtime is between 10 and 11pm) which I don't really want to do.


If you're worried about fat being stored at night or stuff like this, I
don't think it has received any real scientific proof. Part of the world
eats very late (Spain, Italy, part of France, countries where supper is

not
uncommon like Ireland...), and obesity level is not higher than in

countries
where dinner is very early (mostly England, USA, Germany). Anyway, most of
the things that are easy to digest (soup, fruits) are also pretty low
calorie.


Nope, don't have any proof. Just the "I don't really like it" feeling. I'm
not concerned with too low calorie. I began eating a night time snack
because I needed to add extra calories in the first place.

Do I keep snacking at night (which I really don't think is good).


9pm is not night, it's barely evening
If you actually have any serious study showing that it is bad to eat late,

I
would really like to see it. It seems to contradit the cultural practice
from many countries...


When you go to bed at 10, 9pm is night

Do I just stay where I'm at and ignore the grumbles of my tummy at 9pm?


That's not very pleasant... There is also the risk that you will be

*really*
hungry for breakfast and over-eat. Besides, don't the grumbles prevent you
from sleeping?


The opposite seems true. I don't usually get hungry for breakfast until
8-8:30am. If I eat, that gets pushed back at least an hour which doesn't
really work well with my schedule.

Soon I'll be adding more exercise to my day (daily 1hr walks starting

today) so the extra calories
will be even more important.


Exercise will also make you hungrier, it does for most people. Especially

if
you walk right before meals instead of after them (which is not the best
time to have serious exercise - you're busy digesting and insulin level is
high). So, as far as calories are concerned, exercising should take care

of
itself.


Once again, I'm not concerned with too many calories. I know I'm going to
be needing more than I am eating right now when I exercise. My biggest
problem was trying to fit in the extra calories when my body really didn't
want them. For instance. I had 1oz of cheese and 5 slices of cucumber as a
snack 2hrs before my lunch(140cal) and when lunch time came I was no longer
hungry for the lunch I had planned (a turkey sandwich with lettuce and 1/2
cup strawberry yogurt with fresh strawberries cut into it). Had I not eaten
my lunch I would have been hungry at 2pm and needed another snack (not a
meal because dinner is soon on the way). This still wouldn't have given me
the extra calories I wanted by having the snack in the first place.


  #10  
Old April 19th, 2004, 09:07 PM
Cp
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"A Ross" wrote in message
...
In article
able.
rogers.com, "Cp" wrote:

Snippage
Do I
just stay where I'm at
and ignore the grumbles of my tummy at 9pm? Soon I'll be
adding more
exercise to my day (daily 1hr walks starting today) so
the extra calories
will be even more important. Is there any other option
I'm not considering?
Please help! I've never had this problem before.

Cp



Hi!
My body also tells me I need a little snack around 9
p.m., but I think it has very little to do with hunger
and more to do with long-ingrained snacking habits. 9
p.m. seems to be my wind-down time--dinner's over,
dishes are done, kids are in bed, I finally get to sit
down and relax, read or watch TV, and hey, doesn't a
snack sound good?

I find that if I make myself a mug of broth or hot tea
to sip on as I relax, the hunger pangs go away. If the
pangs persist, and I do a mental check of what I ate
and find that "oops, forgot to have my 2 p.m. snack," I
may have a treat, or at least a bite of whatever DH is
chomping on. (He can eat like nobody's business, and
has weighed 165 since high school--over twenty years
ago.)

So, if you're really hungry, and you know you haven't
reached your count for the day, enjoy a small snack. If
you find that you're body is just used to snacking that
time of night, find an alternative.

Good luck!

Amy
168/117


I can ignore the hunger (and with little difficulty) and have lots to do to
keep me occupied. I don't feel I need to eat, I feel I should eat because
usually by then my calories are between 1200 and 1300 (I weigh 256
incidentally). I feel that I should be giving my body more calories but I
don't necessarily want them.


 




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