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Hi,
On 22-Sep-2003, "Roger Zoul" wrote:
SNIP
Also, having such a tagline simply
invites this kind of attention.

You and Steve have both made statements to this effect. I don't see it
- what am I missing? To my eye it just says that a certain church
welcomes all comers. What do you see in it that might provoke someone?

Take care,
Carmen

Hi Roger,
On 22-Sep-2003, "Roger Zoul" wrote:

I think it possible for someone to be against the practice of a
lifestyle (that being homosexuality) but yet not be "against" those
who practice
that lifestyle. Also, some of those that I know of don't feel
superior to
anyone, they view themselves as having a mission....

A mission to what though...save the persons from themselves? Show them
the error of their ways? That sort of position inherently involves the
assumption that the person on the mission's views are right, and that
the others are wrong. By its very nature it involves an assumption of
superiority of some sort. They don't have to hate the people they think
are wrong to be bigoted. The bigotry lies in the assumption of
superiority in the first place.

Take care,
Carmen

Carmen wrote:
:: Hi,
:: On 21-Sep-2003, "Roger Zoul" wrote:
::
::::: Perhaps it doesn't. Except that the email came in response to a
::::: post in this group, and may be from a poster to this group. One
::::: that many of us would want nothing to do with, having read the
::::: email.
:::
::: I think that is too quick to judge.
::
:: Check Google for
:: It's an eyeopener.
::

Yes, Penny appears to be really into alternative medicine -- and controlling
BG is probably why she hangs here. It is my guess that she writes Priscilla
personally to avoid going off-topic in this newsgroup.

Of course, Google reveals that Penny and Priscilla participate in threads
over in alt.religion.christian.episcopal too. So I don't understand why
Priscilla is choosing to bring this to the "light" over here.

Hi,
On 22-Sep-2003, "Roger Zoul" wrote:

:: Check Google for
:: It's an eyeopener.

Yes, Penny appears to be really into alternative medicine -- and
controlling BG is probably why she hangs here. It is my guess that she
writes
Priscilla personally to avoid going off-topic in this newsgroup.

You're a sweet man Roger, and you want to extend the benefit of the
doubt, but I don't think you've read nearly enough. :-)

Of course, Google reveals that Penny and Priscilla participate in
threads over in alt.religion.christian.episcopal too. So I don't
understand
why Priscilla is choosing to bring this to the "light" over here.

Check the time frame involved. The picture is there, but it takes some
reading to bring it into focus.

Take care,
Carmen

On 21 Sep 2003 22:03:02 GMT, ospam (Susan ) wrote:

I can't think of any reason for any human being to be the least bit concerned
about what another does in his/her intimate relationships with other consenting
adults.

AIDS

Hello,
On 22-Sep-2003, Steve wrote:

Also, having such a tagline simply
invites this kind of attention.

You and Steve have both made statements to this effect. I don't see
it - what am I missing? To my eye it just says that a certain
church
welcomes all comers. What do you see in it that might provoke
someone?

The tagline has to be taken in light of current events. You would have
to be living on another planet in the last two months not to be aware
of the
controversy over the Episcopal Church confirming an openly homosexual
bishop. It was in the headlines for a week in early September, I
believe.
Given that, it is hard for me to imagine that the average person
reading that
tagline would not interpret it to be a reference to the Episcopal
Church's
acceptance of homosexuals. That would be provocative to anyone who
disagreed with
the decision, especially another Episcopalian.

At an absolute minimum it has nothing to do with low carbohydrate...
nor does the Wesley Clark tagline. I'm not naive enough to expect that
people
aren't going to use taglines to grind their own axes and promote their
own
viewpoints. I just don't think they should complain about it when they
get the rise out of someone else that the tag line is intended to
get.

I was aware of the controversy. I'm sad to see people ascribing nasty
motives to a simple (rather sweet, I thought) tagline though, based on
no real evidence, just suspicion.

Have a good evening,
Carmen

On 21 Sep 2003 22:03:02 GMT, ospam (Susan ) wrote:


I can't think of any reason for any human being to be the least bit
concerned
about what another does in his/her intimate relationships with other
consenting
adults.

Crescent Mu_n wrote in message ...

AIDS

Quite possibly the only time I've ever agreed with you Mr. Mu.

Cheri

On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:24:26 -0700, "Cheri"
-nogarbage wrote:


I can't think of any reason for any human being to be the least bit
concerned
about what another does in his/her intimate relationships with other
consenting
adults.

Crescent Mu_n wrote in message ...

AIDS

Quite possibly the only time I've ever agreed with you Mr. Mu.

Could be Mrs. Mu, you never know.

Roger Zoul wrote:
Also, having such a tagline
|| simply invites this kind of attention.


my thoughts exactly

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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:35:03 GMT, Lorelei
wrote:

Roger Zoul wrote:
Also, having such a tagline
|| simply invites this kind of attention.


my thoughts exactly

--
Lori
220/150 ( Challenge goal)/135
LC since 1/17/03
Sept Challenge 155/150
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Not from me -- I had no idea that the tagline meant anything. So, "Also,
having such a tagline
simply invites this kind of attention" should be changed to "Also, having
such a tagline
simply invites this kind of attention for people who know something about
this religion."

--
Bob M in CT
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