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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:14 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default “Gluten is killing all of America” Heh.


http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2012/0...ll-of-america/

"But this mainstream sitcom depiction of gluten-freedom is a huge step
in the right direction . . . because modern wheat is unsuitable for
consumption for ANY human!"

Contrast and compare with the ADA's recommendation to eat lot's of
"healthy whole grains."

Sheesh.

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about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman
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Old August 8th, 2012, 07:49 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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Default �Gluten is killing all of America� Heh.

Dogman wrote:

http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2012/0...ll-of-america/

"But this mainstream sitcom depiction of gluten-freedom is a huge step
in the right direction . . . because modern wheat is unsuitable for
consumption for ANY human!"


I tend to be the one who says "Moo" in response to being fed cattle
fodder. Being mildly wheat intolerant normally has me one of the most
biased in the room. Even I figure the current anti-wheat fad is over
blown. Wheat or gluten is a problem for maybe ten percent. Low carb is
beneficial for at least fifty percent.

I think most of the benefit of this current fad comes from the wrong
reason. It's lower carb without being called lower carb. I bet the
gluten free fad will pass, people will eat cattle fodder again, feel
worse, but because they don't know the actual cuse is total carbs they
won't be able to repeat it.

Contrast and compare with the ADA's recommendation to eat lot's of
"healthy whole grains."


Those studies are crazy. They compare a diet high in refined grains
with a diet high in whole grains and from that study conclude that whole
grains are beneficial.

Show me a study that compares a diet high in non-tubre root vegetables
with a diet high in whole grains. Does anyone actually think oatmeal is
better for people than carrots? Yeah, don't expect this study any time
soon.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 08:01 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default �Gluten is killing all of America� Heh.

On Aug 8, 2:49*pm, Doug Freyburger wrote:
Dogman wrote:

http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2012/0...ll-of-america/


"But this mainstream sitcom depiction of gluten-freedom is a huge step
in the right direction . . . because modern wheat is unsuitable for
consumption for ANY human!"


I tend to be the one who says "Moo" in response to being fed cattle
fodder. *Being mildly wheat intolerant normally has me one of the most
biased in the room. *Even I figure the current anti-wheat fad is over
blown. *Wheat or gluten is a problem for maybe ten percent. *Low carb is
beneficial for at least fifty percent.

I think most of the benefit of this current fad comes from the wrong
reason. *It's lower carb without being called lower carb. *I bet the
gluten free fad will pass, people will eat cattle fodder again, feel
worse, but because they don't know the actual cuse is total carbs they
won't be able to repeat it.


I agree with that assessment. I see people on TV
that are on the current "gluten is bad" fad. But if
you listen to what they are doing, in most cases
they aren't just avoiding gluten. They are sharply
reducing refined carbs. So, I think they have arrived at
a good solution, but possibly for the wrong reason.
Meaning I'm not convinced if you replaced wheat
with corn or rice flour and made the same refined
carb products that they wouldn't be just as bad
for most people.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 08:24 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default �Gluten is killing all of America� Heh.

On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 18:49:10 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
wrote:

Dogman wrote:

http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2012/0...ll-of-america/

"But this mainstream sitcom depiction of gluten-freedom is a huge step
in the right direction . . . because modern wheat is unsuitable for
consumption for ANY human!"


I tend to be the one who says "Moo" in response to being fed cattle
fodder. Being mildly wheat intolerant normally has me one of the most
biased in the room. Even I figure the current anti-wheat fad is over
blown. Wheat or gluten is a problem for maybe ten percent.


I think the elimination of wheat, whether you have Celiac's disease or
not, is extremely important to overall health and weight control.

Read Dr. Davis's book ("Wheat Belly"), it'll explain the science
behind it.

And not only do I *not* think this is a fad, I'd hate to have a large
position in certain food stocks, especially those companies that make
cereals. So let's keep an eye on their stock prices and see who's
right, EH? Heh.

--
Dogman

"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty
about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman
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Old August 8th, 2012, 08:41 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default �Gluten is killing all of America� Heh.

On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 12:01:36 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

[...]
Meaning I'm not convinced if you replaced wheat
with corn or rice flour and made the same refined
carb products that they wouldn't be just as bad
for most people.


They're all bad, wheat is the worst.

Whatever you do, do NOT read this book!
http://www.amazon.com/Wheat-Belly-Lo.../dp/1609611543



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"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty
about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman
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Old August 8th, 2012, 09:01 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default �Gluten is killing all of America� Heh.

On Aug 8, 3:24*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 18:49:10 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger

wrote:
Dogman wrote:


http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2012/0...ll-of-america/


"But this mainstream sitcom depiction of gluten-freedom is a huge step
in the right direction . . . because modern wheat is unsuitable for
consumption for ANY human!"


I tend to be the one who says "Moo" in response to being fed cattle
fodder. *Being mildly wheat intolerant normally has me one of the most
biased in the room. *Even I figure the current anti-wheat fad is over
blown. *Wheat or gluten is a problem for maybe ten percent.


I think the elimination of wheat, whether you have Celiac's disease or
not, is extremely important to overall health and weight control.

Read Dr. Davis's book ("Wheat Belly"), it'll explain the science
behind it.

And not only do I *not* think this is a fad, I'd hate to have a large
position in certain food stocks, especially those companies that make
cereals. So let's keep an eye on their stock prices and see who's
right, EH? Heh.

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Dogman



Wheat Belly is going to crash the cereal companies?
It's just one more book and the chance that it's going
to have some big impact on food stocks is silly. It
won't have any more impact than the thousands of
other books that all had their moment in the sun too.
1% read all the books and do something different.
The other 99% just keep eating what they like. And
I'll bet that most of the people jumping on the wheat belly
fad will be forgetting it in a year.

All those large food companies have all
kinds of other products. They track what people buy
and will just readjust the products as needed. People are
still going to have to eat something, and those companies
will still be supplying it.

I've also seen folks taking apart Wheat Belly as
misrepresenting the science, incorrectly attributing
things to studies that the studies did not actually
show, etc. I don't have the need nor inclination
to look into it any further. For me personally,
wheat has no different effect than eating any
other refined carb products.

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Old August 8th, 2012, 10:39 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default �Gluten is killing all of America� Heh.

On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 13:01:57 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

[...]
Read Dr. Davis's book ("Wheat Belly"), it'll explain the science
behind it.

And not only do I *not* think this is a fad, I'd hate to have a large
position in certain food stocks, especially those companies that make
cereals. So let's keep an eye on their stock prices and see who's
right, EH? Heh.

--
Dogman



Wheat Belly is going to crash the cereal companies?


Did you see the wored "crash" anywhere in my post?

It's just one more book


Actually, it's a highly referenced book.

and the chance that it's going
to have some big impact on food stocks is silly.


We'll know soon enough.

I've also seen folks taking apart Wheat Belly as
misrepresenting the science, incorrectly attributing
things to studies that the studies did not actually
show, etc.


They're probably just as scientifically illiterate as you are.

I don't have the need nor inclination
to look into it any further.


Exactly! Because it conflicts with your preconceived notions, so your
incurious mind just shuts down altogether.

On the other hand, a book about pills...

Moron.


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about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman
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Old August 9th, 2012, 01:00 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default �Gluten is killing all of America� Heh.

On Aug 8, 5:39*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 13:01:57 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:

[...]

Read Dr. Davis's book ("Wheat Belly"), it'll explain the science
behind it.


And not only do I *not* think this is a fad, I'd hate to have a large
position in certain food stocks, especially those companies that make
cereals. So let's keep an eye on their stock prices and see who's
right, EH? Heh.


--
Dogman


Wheat Belly is going to crash the cereal companies?


Did you see the wored "crash" anywhere in my post?

It's just one more book


Actually, it's a highly referenced book.


As if that mattered. If Atkins best sellers for decades
didn't sink the cereal companies, I highly doubt they
are shaking in their boots over this fad. My prediciton
is that in another year, some folks will be on to another hot
idea of the moment. But the vast majority will still be
eating and doing the same things they are now.




and the chance that it's going
to have some big impact on food stocks is silly.


We'll know soon enough.

I've also seen folks taking apart Wheat Belly as
misrepresenting the science, incorrectly attributing
things to studies that the studies did not actually
show, etc.


They're probably just as scientifically illiterate as you are.



This coming from the expert who claims:

HIV is not the cause of AIDS
HIV is harmless
AIDS is really caused by lack of sleep and diet
No virus can cause cancer
HPV is not a cause of cervical cancer

Dogman is actually quite proud of the above.
And I'm the one that's scientifically illiterate?

Anything else you'd like to add to your list today
for everyone to see?







 




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