|If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.|
||Thread Tools||Display Modes|
MORE EVIDENCE OF HEALTH FRAUD
IAHF List: Live in the Allentown PA area? You might want to call this
story to the attention of all local media. Live in California? Same
thing. Live anywhere in the world? Same thing. See Tim Bolen's op ed
piece below about the latest misadventures of Stephen Barrett et al in
I am sending the following questions to Dr.Barrett at
and am hoping he responds.
If he does, IAHF will give him equal time.
To: Stephen Barrett, MD, http://www.quackwatch.com/ Allentown PA
cc: Robert Vaughn Jr, News Director, WFMZ TV Allentown PA
Dr.Barrett: [See op ed piece below my comments by Tim Bolen]
Tim Bolen and the Health Freedom Movement seem to have you and your
the run in California, and all over the map.
Tell me please sir, why exactly did you dismiss the case discussed
Was it because you could not afford the expense of being deposed in
because you would have to fly out to California?
What are you going to do now that the Judge has ORDERED you to make a
How are you going to hide the sources of your funding as this
Is your house in your name? Your car? The watch on your wrist? The
on your back?
Do you intend to flee the country now as Bolen suggests you might do?
Bolen correct? Incorrect? (State your reasons for your answer.)
Did you know it is legal in California for people to videotape court
What is causing that shaking? Parkinsons? Caffein? Amphetamines? How
that shaking going to look to your supporters if Bolen
videotapes you in the courtroom and uploads the footage to the web?
causing it? Late night last ditch strategy meetings to try
to figure a way off the hook? Shot nerves? Old age comin' on?
This is a rather interesting local story that folks in the Allentown
area might be interested in, don't you think?
On the chance that they might be, I am forwarding this to several
media people. Even TV Newspeople are now using vitamins and
alternative medicine and are starting to see through the Pharma
What are you going to do if they come wanting to discuss the
involving what happened on Wednesday, January 29, 2002,
in case # BC246920, where Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Elihu M.
granted a Defense Motion
ORDERING the depositions of yourself and Baratz???
Are you going to leave the country? Is your house in your name? Your
The clothes on your back? What will you tell the grandchildren if you
able to leave nothing, if you've been forced offshore??? Are you
are you goin' or aren't you sure at this point one way or the other?
Could it possibly be that what goes around, comes around?
Shouldn't you get down on your knees and humble yourself before your
Creator and pray for forgiveness of sins?
With 39 frivolous lawsuits filed in California, and the shellacking
taking in court, how much longer til you flee the country while
the mouth and gnashing your teeth in mortal anguish? You do realize
you that a time could come when you might find yourself in a place
VERY warm climate, and I don't mean Vegas or Miami, capiche? What are
gonna say when you shuffle off this immortal coil and come face to
with our Creator and have to account for your actions? Gonna try
bull****ting your way out of THAT??
Just curious, please let me know. I will give you equal time.
John C. Hammell, President
International Advocates for Health Freedom
From: "Tim & Jan Bolen"
To: "Millions of Health Freedom Fighters - Newsletter"
Subject: Cowardly "Quackbusters" DISMISS Case to Avoid Being
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 08:40:50 -0800
Cowardly "Quackbusters" DISMISS Case to Avoid Being DEPOSED?...
Opinion by consumer advocate Tim Bolen
The self-styled "quackbusters" have LOST ANOTHER court case in
California... This time, before they even went to trial. And, it looks
to me, that they lost it INTENTIONALLY to avoid having their
leadership legally "deposed."
Last year, to hear the "quackbusters" talk, you'd have thought they'd
found, and activated, the perfect plan to rid the world of what THEY
define as "quackery."
Using their "front" organization, the National Council Against Health
Fraud (NCAHF), they decided to sue 39 Defendants under California's
"Private Attorney General Law." In those separate suits they basically
claimed that all 39 Defendants were committing "fraud" because,
according to them, Alternative Medicine proponents "Don't have
scientific proof of their claims."
This was the first legal test of the basic "quackbuster" claims
against Alternative Medicine. So far, TWICE NOW, they've been laughed
out of court for their STUPID arguments, and ARROGANT presumptions...
Two down, thirty-seven to go...
The North American Health Freedom Movement, tired of "quackbuster"
crap, has decided to take them on, right here, and right now -
nose-to-nose. And, the "quackbusters" are no match.
Now, faced with the fruits of their actions, you can't find a
"quackbuster" anywhere in sight. We've even looked under the bed. The
"quackpot menace" has fled the field. They simply don't have ANYONE
willing to stand up, and face, the Health Freedom Movement.
WE JUST MADE A SIMPLE REQUEST...
All we're asking them to do, in all those 39 court cases they filed in
California, is three simple things: (1) provide scientific proof of
their ludicrous claims, (2) provide "evidence based" testimony, from
(3) experts and witnesses with real credentials, and REAL RESUMES.
They cannot, in any of the cases we've gone nose-to-nose with them in
California, provide ANY of the three items we've asked them to
provide. And now, we've gone WAY beyond just asking for their proof.
We're demanding to know the details of their reasoning in their
decision to become the Plaintiff in those 39 cases. And, it's here, at
this point, that Barrett and Baratz (their leadership), have decided
to cut, and run...
I think it is realistic to expect that both Barrett, and Baratz, may
soon flee the country (leave US soil for a foreign country), where
they can't be subpoenaed. It is getting that bad for them.
Top "quackbusters," Stephen Barrett and Bobbie Baratz, will apparently
do ANYTHING to avoid being DEPOSED.
A "deposition" is a form of legal discovery. It is an out-of-court
recording of a witness's sworn testimony, which can be used as
evidence in a civil lawsuit, or a criminal trial (or both).
HERE IS WHAT JUST HAPPENED...
On Wednesday, January 29, 2002, in case # BC246920, Los Angeles
Superior Court Judge Elihu M. Berle granted a Defense Motion ORDERING
the depositions of Barrett and Baratz. The NCAHF had earlier REFUSED
TO PROVIDE Baratz and Barrett for deposition. The NCAHF also demanded
that, if they were to be deposed, the defense "pay them expert witness
fees, air fare, hotel bills, meals, etc.). Baratz had demanded fees
including $350 per hour for his testimony.
$350 per hour? Did I mention the word "Megalomania?"
Only a few hours after the Judge's decision ordering the depositions
in the case, the NCAHF DISMISSED the case.
The case was due to go to trial February 13, 2002. California Civil
Litigator Carlos Negrete had assembled a stable of world-renowned
Defense witnesses - and was also calling (as Defense witnesses) the
ENTIRE Board of Directors of the NCAHF.
(Insert laugh-track here) It has become strongly apparent that the
"quackbusters" don't want their personal affairs examined under a
bright light. Gee, I wonder why?
Judge Berle agreed with Negrete's claim that Baratz, and Barrett,
were, in fact, "the Plaintiff," and that the Defense team had the
right to depose them, and to depose them without cost to the
Defendant. The Judge also SANCTIONED the NCAHF and their attorney
(fined them $1000), for failing to provide Barrett, and Baratz, at
Earlier in the case, the Plaintiff's attorney Morse Mehrban, had tried
to block deposition of any NCAHF leadership, claiming that he,
Mehrban, was the one to be deposed. The Judge, in that earlier action,
disagreed with Mehrban, sided with Negrete, and ordered the NCAHF to
provide a representative to answer Negrete's questions in deposition.
The NCAHF first provided William Jarvis, co-founder with Barrett, of
the NCAHF. Jarvis, in deposition, admitted to having NO KNOWLEDGE of
the case, or of how the NCAHF might have decided to become a
Plaintiff. He indicated that all decisions were made by Stephen
Barrett, and Bobbie Baratz. Hence, Negrete DEMANDED deposition of
Barrett, and Baratz. The Judge agreed.
SO WHY ARE THE "QUACKPOTS" AFRAID OF DEPOSITION?
Several reasons: (1) Because they know now, from experience, that
Health Freedom teams across North America, are exchanging information
about them, (2) Because they've had that information used against them
in courtrooms, and public meetings, RECENTLY, to their detriment, (3)
Because they are very afraid of what we're going to do NEXT with the
information we already have, (4) Because they are very afraid of
having to answer the kind of questions we are asking, (5) Because they
can see where we are heading, with the kind of questions we are
asking, (6) Because they know we are using every opportunity to gather
information to bolster the "racketeering" (RICO) complaint filed
against them... (7) Because they know that the Department of Justice
(DOJ) has been sniffing around the Oakland (RICO) case, wanting to see
our files... (8) Because - they can run, but they can't hide... and we
I love it when a plan comes together...
Note: There will more on this case (including legal documents)
available at http://www.healthfreedomlaw.com this coming weekend. I'll
let you know...
This "Millions of Health Freedom Fighters - Newsletter" is about the
battle between "Health and Medicine" on Planet Earth. Tim Bolen is an
op/ed writer with extensive knowledge of the activities of a
subversive organization calling itself the "quackbusters," and that
organization's attempts to suppress, and discredit, any, and all
health modalities that compete with the allopathic (MD) paradigm for
consumer health dollars. The focus of the newsletter is on the ongoing
activities, battles, politics, and the victories won by members of the
"Health Freedom Movement" against the "quackbusters" It details "who
the quackbusters are, what they are, where they are operating, when
they appear, and how they operate - and how easy it is to beat
For background information on the "Battle between Health and Medicine"
go to: http://www.savedrclark.org/by_whom2.htm.
|Thread||Thread Starter||Forum||Replies||Last Post|
|Who are these So-called QUACKBUSTERS - Part II||Joe||General Discussion||0||November 7th, 2003 05:24 AM|
|Who Are These So-Called QUACKBUSTERS? Part I||Joe||General Discussion||0||November 7th, 2003 05:24 AM|
|Quackwatch.org is a conspiracy. Here's why.||Joe||General Discussion||0||November 7th, 2003 05:24 AM|
|Fat rejectance is the new war on women||NR||General Discussion||3||October 15th, 2003 07:19 AM|
|Fat rejectance is the new war on women||NR||General Discussion||25||October 10th, 2003 02:30 AM|