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Old May 10th, 2007, 03:01 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
Bob in CT[_2_]
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Default Fats for losing Weight from Mercola folks

On Wed, 09 May 2007 18:35:40 -0400, Doug Freyburger
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Kaz Kylheku wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:

Evolutionary argument - Ancestors moved from the forrests to the
savannah and became hunters of scavengers so animal fat works
for us.


Is that why most of the world record performances in athletics were
accomplished on high fat, low-carb diets?


And world level athletics has what to do with the majority of
people other than to serve as a canard that you're off your rocker?
Fit individuals can easily do fine on low carb diets. If they follow
the directions and ease into their programs.


I've found the carbohydrate requirements of exercising to be vastly
overrated. OK, if you're a world class bicyclist, you might need a
certain amount of carbs. But for those of us riding nthe 100 mile per
week range, the carb requirement is way, way, way lower. Currently, I'm
riding in the around 50-660 mile range per week, along with lifting
weights twice a week. I find eating some fruit after these exercises
enough to replenish what I need. If I feel the need to have more carbs, I
eat a few pieces of fruit. That's it.


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Old May 10th, 2007, 03:25 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Thu, 10 May 2007 10:01:54 -0400, Bob in CT
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On Wed, 09 May 2007 18:35:40 -0400, Doug Freyburger
wrote:

Kaz Kylheku wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:

Evolutionary argument - Ancestors moved from the forrests to the
savannah and became hunters of scavengers so animal fat works
for us.

Is that why most of the world record performances in athletics were
accomplished on high fat, low-carb diets?


And world level athletics has what to do with the majority of
people other than to serve as a canard that you're off your rocker?
Fit individuals can easily do fine on low carb diets. If they follow
the directions and ease into their programs.


I've found the carbohydrate requirements of exercising to be vastly
overrated. OK, if you're a world class bicyclist, you might need a
certain amount of carbs. But for those of us riding nthe 100 mile per
week range, the carb requirement is way, way, way lower. Currently, I'm
riding in the around 50-660 mile range per week, along with lifting
weights twice a week. I find eating some fruit after these exercises
enough to replenish what I need. If I feel the need to have more carbs,
I eat a few pieces of fruit. That's it.



That should be 50-60 mile range. This type of logical fallacy is common
-- that because group A does something means that everyone needs to do
that something. In other words, because world-class athletes have certain
nutritional requirements, means that everyone has those nutritional
requirements. That's simply untrue.

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Bob in CT
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Old May 10th, 2007, 03:37 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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Default Fats for losing Weight from Mercola folks

"Bob in CT" wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:
Kaz Kylheku wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:


Evolutionary argument - Ancestors moved from the forrests to the
savannah and became hunters of scavengers so animal fat works
for us.


Is that why most of the world record performances in athletics were
accomplished on high fat, low-carb diets?


And world level athletics has what to do with the majority of
people other than to serve as a canard that you're off your rocker?
Fit individuals can easily do fine on low carb diets. If they follow
the directions and ease into their programs.


The reason comparisons with world class athletes is idiocy:

Consider the filtering mechanism to become world class.
In high school somewhere in the 10-30% range can qualify
if variety sports. Move on the college and it's 10-30% of
those who can qualify for variety at the college level. Only
the top 0.1% of the total population can ever be considered
at the semi-pro level in sports. By the time you're world
class the percentage of the total population is a few more
digits - 0.001% or less. It's idiocy to think that what works
for a tiny fraction of a percent of a percent makes any sense
for the majority of the population.

So what does make sense for athletic aspirations: Getting
into the top ten percent of your current bracket, that's what.
For pro athletes that is getting to world class level. For
college athletes that is getting to pro levels. For high school
athletes that is making it to college varsity levels. For 90%
of the population, it's making it to your age group's equivalent
of high school varsity levels.

If you make running a part of your exercise program, that
would mean spending a year building up to the point where
a 10K run is straightforward. Then starting to compete in
local 10K run events. Target getting into the top half of your
age bracket. Get to that level, then think about better. But
thinking world class means anything to the majority of the
population, lunatic idiocy.

I've found the carbohydrate requirements of exercising to be vastly
overrated. OK, if you're a world class bicyclist, you might need a
certain amount of carbs. But for those of us riding nthe 100 mile per
week range, the carb requirement is way, way, way lower. Currently, I'm
riding in the around 50-660 mile range per week, along with lifting
weights twice a week. I find eating some fruit after these exercises
enough to replenish what I need. If I feel the need to have more carbs, I
eat a few pieces of fruit. That's it.


You're doing this at under 100 carb grams per day, right?
so long as I read the book and follow the directions, aka
build up gradually, I don't have any problem working the
Bowflex and such.

 




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