Compulsive Overeating

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:49:34 +0200, "Lictor"
wrote:

"Jo-Ann" RiverRun@ mindspring.com wrote in message
link.net...
I have been to therapy. I received the same type of frivolous answer from
the therapist.

Then, you have had a bad therapist. A good therapist won't push method X on
you (behavioural, cognitive, Freudian, whatever). A good therapist will
listen to you, and then think in his head "I know of appraches A, B, C and
D, what's the perfect mix to help this person". For instance, behavioural
therapy (the tips Luna posted) is often part of the mix, because it often
provides quick relief that allows for enough peace of mind to work on the
therapy. But pure behavioural tends to be short lived.
That's why a good therapist needs to be *specialized* in eating disorders,
otherwise he just doesn't have the skills to be fluent in that kind of
multi-therapy process. And yes, good therapists I damn rare, perhaps even
more so than good doctors. And even if you find a good one, you have to find
a perfect fit with your own personnality. But it's still worth trying.

I have this problem, too. I'm sorry that you share this problem with me,
Jo-Ann, but it's also comforting to know that it's not just me. My HMO
never did get back to me when I phoned them for pre-approval to see the
only therapist specializing in eating disorders in southern Minnesota. I'm
going to write a formal request, and see where that gets me.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Jo-Ann wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I have been on the low carb (Atkins) WOE now for over one year. I have lost
64 pounds and have maintained the loss for 7 months. I weigh myself every
Monday morning. I can REALLY use some advice.
After my weigh in this week, I found, to my horror, I had gained 4 pounds.
OK! Fine! I lost my job when the business folded and I'm not as active as I
was. I have been going through extreme emotional stress. Fine! I have been
trying to justify this weight gain when all this time, I KNOW THE REASON.
I am a compulsive overeater and have been eating too much of my "Legal"
foods, especially nuts! I have been consuming too many calories each day. I
need some control now. I really need some advice as to how to start
controlling the amount I eat.
I have tried to go back on the "Induction phase of the program but at night,
I eat those darned nuts again and can't seem to control the amount.
As an ex- member of Overeaters' Anonymous for years, (lost 123 pounds and
regained over 90) I think I miss the sharing with other who have the same
problem.
I have been looking for another job and I pray I get a call soon from the 5
applications I have filled out so far. I am also waiting to see how
Hurricane Ivan is going. I live in North Carolina and want to visit my 85
year old mother in New Jersey. I ahead not seen her in 2 years. I have
begged her to come and live with me but she will not move. I feel so guilty.
I was supposed to have already driven up to N. J. a few weeks ago but
postponed the trip because of Hurricanes Charlie and Frances. Now, there's
another forming. I am afraid to drive in that kind of weather. It's a 12
hour trip from here.
I would love to get some help and suggestions. Thanks so much for your time
and understanding! Take care all!
Jo-Ann



Beating Carb Cravings

1) Drink 2 full glasses of water [ “hunger” = thirst ]
2) Perfume/Colone – SMELL overcomes taste
3) Brush Your Teeth – kills hunger, numbs your mouth
4) Sugarless Gum – Chewing subs for eating
5) Distract Yourself – Take walk, Climb Stairs, Jumping Jacks...
6) Engaging or Interactive Activity – Chores, Games, Helping Someone,
7) Turn OFF TV – stops constant exposure to food signals
8) Goals – Review them, Write them, Visualize them
9) Reading Material Handy – Read/Reread favorites (DANDR ?)
10) Call a Diet Buddy
11) Go Online for Support- Web sites/Chat rooms for low-carb
12) New Reward System- NOT FOOD – Bubble Bath, Movie, Fun Reading.......
13) Add Physical Aspect to Rewards – Dance, go shopping, take yoga
class, climb rock
wall
14) Sour Snack – Pickle, raw veggie, spiced or hot...
15) Supplements – l-glutamine, orange bitter, chromium.......
16) Healthy Alternatives – Acceptable Foods [Hard boiled eggs, string
cheese, sliced
meats,..
17) Low Carb Version of Craving – Low Carb Yogurt, Chocolate, Milk,
Candy Bars,....
18) Self-Made Low Carb Treat – “Pork rinds+cinnamon+splenda”, Coconut
milk+cocoa+splenda, Cooked zucchini+low carb pasta sauce
19) Bite of Real Thing -?????
20) Give In OCCASIONALLY – unless it sets you back too much.


Good Luck

I fight the same problem myself from time to time. Now I often win or at
least draw.

Jim

"jbuch" wrote in message
...
Jo-Ann wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I have been on the low carb (Atkins) WOE now for over one year. I have
lost
64 pounds and have maintained the loss for 7 months. I weigh myself
every
Monday morning. I can REALLY use some advice.
After my weigh in this week, I found, to my horror, I had gained 4
pounds.
OK! Fine! I lost my job when the business folded and I'm not as active
as I
was. I have been going through extreme emotional stress. Fine! I have
been
trying to justify this weight gain when all this time, I KNOW THE
REASON.
I am a compulsive overeater and have been eating too much of my "Legal"
foods, especially nuts! I have been consuming too many calories each
day. I
need some control now. I really need some advice as to how to start
controlling the amount I eat.
I have tried to go back on the "Induction phase of the program but at
night,
I eat those darned nuts again and can't seem to control the amount.
As an ex- member of Overeaters' Anonymous for years, (lost 123 pounds
and
regained over 90) I think I miss the sharing with other who have the
same
problem.
I have been looking for another job and I pray I get a call soon from
the 5
applications I have filled out so far. I am also waiting to see how
Hurricane Ivan is going. I live in North Carolina and want to visit my
85
year old mother in New Jersey. I ahead not seen her in 2 years. I have
begged her to come and live with me but she will not move. I feel so
guilty.
I was supposed to have already driven up to N. J. a few weeks ago but
postponed the trip because of Hurricanes Charlie and Frances. Now,
there's
another forming. I am afraid to drive in that kind of weather. It's a 12
hour trip from here.
I would love to get some help and suggestions. Thanks so much for your
time
and understanding! Take care all!
Jo-Ann



Beating Carb Cravings

1) Drink 2 full glasses of water [ “hunger” = thirst ]
2) Perfume/Colone – SMELL overcomes taste
3) Brush Your Teeth – kills hunger, numbs your mouth
4) Sugarless Gum – Chewing subs for eating
5) Distract Yourself – Take walk, Climb Stairs, Jumping Jacks...
6) Engaging or Interactive Activity – Chores, Games, Helping Someone,
7) Turn OFF TV – stops constant exposure to food signals
8) Goals – Review them, Write them, Visualize them
9) Reading Material Handy – Read/Reread favorites (DANDR ?)
10) Call a Diet Buddy
11) Go Online for Support- Web sites/Chat rooms for low-carb
12) New Reward System- NOT FOOD – Bubble Bath, Movie, Fun Reading.......
13) Add Physical Aspect to Rewards – Dance, go shopping, take yoga
class, climb rock
wall
14) Sour Snack – Pickle, raw veggie, spiced or hot...
15) Supplements – l-glutamine, orange bitter, chromium.......
16) Healthy Alternatives – Acceptable Foods [Hard boiled eggs, string
cheese, sliced
meats,..
17) Low Carb Version of Craving – Low Carb Yogurt, Chocolate, Milk,
Candy Bars,....
18) Self-Made Low Carb Treat – “Pork rinds+cinnamon+splenda”, Coconut
milk+cocoa+splenda, Cooked zucchini+low carb pasta sauce
19) Bite of Real Thing -?????

No - you can't do that if you are a compulsive overeater. 1 bite and you
will eat it all till it's all gone. That's me anyway. I get the idea that if
i eat it all it will be all gone and no more temptation. SO i become the
human garbage disposal.

You must get rid of the tempting items. If nuts are legal in small quantity
but you are losing control then No more nuts.

Do you drink diet soda with aspertame? I found I had to give it up - it was
giving me cravings liek crazy.

20) Give In OCCASIONALLY – unless it sets you back too much.


Good Luck

I fight the same problem myself from time to time. Now I often win or at
least draw.

Jim

The best way to get rid of carb cravings is to get rid of foods that provoke
an insulin spike. For many of us that means carbohydrates. For some of us,
it may be both carbs and too much protein.

That means that to get a handle on hunger, you might have to stop eating any
of the supposed "low carb" foods you see at the store, because many of them
are full of sugar alcohols which can raise blood sugar for many of us.

Not only that, but I've found that a few grams of sugar alcohol will cause
me to be hungry for literally hours after eating the food that contains
them, and the hunger is way out of proportion to their actual food value. I
have had to completely eliminate even the low carb ice cream, which is kind
to my blood sugar, because I don't want to deal with the subsequent hunger.
Even the sugar free breath mints give me hours of cravings.

Not everyone has this reaction, but if you are low carbing and still
obsessing about food, cutting the sugar alcohols might be a very good place
to start.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
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"Dropped 21" wrote in message
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"jbuch" wrote in message
...
Jo-Ann wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I have been on the low carb (Atkins) WOE now for over one year. I have
lost
64 pounds and have maintained the loss for 7 months. I weigh myself
every
Monday morning. I can REALLY use some advice.
After my weigh in this week, I found, to my horror, I had gained 4
pounds.
OK! Fine! I lost my job when the business folded and I'm not as active
as I
was. I have been going through extreme emotional stress. Fine! I have
been
trying to justify this weight gain when all this time, I KNOW THE
REASON.
I am a compulsive overeater and have been eating too much of my
"Legal"
foods, especially nuts! I have been consuming too many calories each
day. I
need some control now. I really need some advice as to how to start
controlling the amount I eat.
I have tried to go back on the "Induction phase of the program but at
night,
I eat those darned nuts again and can't seem to control the amount.
As an ex- member of Overeaters' Anonymous for years, (lost 123 pounds
and
regained over 90) I think I miss the sharing with other who have the
same
problem.
I have been looking for another job and I pray I get a call soon from
the 5
applications I have filled out so far. I am also waiting to see how
Hurricane Ivan is going. I live in North Carolina and want to visit my
85
year old mother in New Jersey. I ahead not seen her in 2 years. I have
begged her to come and live with me but she will not move. I feel so
guilty.
I was supposed to have already driven up to N. J. a few weeks ago but
postponed the trip because of Hurricanes Charlie and Frances. Now,
there's
another forming. I am afraid to drive in that kind of weather. It's a
12
hour trip from here.
I would love to get some help and suggestions. Thanks so much for your
time
and understanding! Take care all!
Jo-Ann



Beating Carb Cravings

1) Drink 2 full glasses of water [ “hunger” = thirst ]
2) Perfume/Colone – SMELL overcomes taste
3) Brush Your Teeth – kills hunger, numbs your mouth
4) Sugarless Gum – Chewing subs for eating
5) Distract Yourself – Take walk, Climb Stairs, Jumping Jacks...
6) Engaging or Interactive Activity – Chores, Games, Helping Someone,
7) Turn OFF TV – stops constant exposure to food signals
8) Goals – Review them, Write them, Visualize them
9) Reading Material Handy – Read/Reread favorites (DANDR ?)
10) Call a Diet Buddy
11) Go Online for Support- Web sites/Chat rooms for low-carb
12) New Reward System- NOT FOOD – Bubble Bath, Movie, Fun Reading.......
13) Add Physical Aspect to Rewards – Dance, go shopping, take yoga
class, climb rock
wall
14) Sour Snack – Pickle, raw veggie, spiced or hot...
15) Supplements – l-glutamine, orange bitter, chromium.......
16) Healthy Alternatives – Acceptable Foods [Hard boiled eggs, string
cheese, sliced
meats,..
17) Low Carb Version of Craving – Low Carb Yogurt, Chocolate, Milk,
Candy Bars,....
18) Self-Made Low Carb Treat – “Pork rinds+cinnamon+splenda”, Coconut
milk+cocoa+splenda, Cooked zucchini+low carb pasta sauce
19) Bite of Real Thing -?????

No - you can't do that if you are a compulsive overeater. 1 bite and you
will eat it all till it's all gone. That's me anyway. I get the idea that
if
i eat it all it will be all gone and no more temptation. SO i become the
human garbage disposal.

You must get rid of the tempting items. If nuts are legal in small
quantity
but you are losing control then No more nuts.

Do you drink diet soda with aspertame? I found I had to give it up - it
was
giving me cravings liek crazy.

20) Give In OCCASIONALLY – unless it sets you back too much.


Good Luck

I fight the same problem myself from time to time. Now I often win or at
least draw.

Jim

Not meaning to mock the OP, but when I was skimming the subject lines just
now I read the typo as "carb crabbings" and thought, yeah, dang it, I
identify with that.

Right now I'm crabby because I would love nothing more than some toasted
and buttered home-baked sourdough bread topped with some home-made
strawberry jam with my coffee this morning. Not a craving, just a
crabbing ;-)


Dan
325/197/190
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

Hi

Newbie here. Not a low-carber, but one with some ideas might help. Not
that we haven't thought of them all and abused them, at one time or
diet or other. : )

I found it was like smoking and not smoking. One has a cigarette while
doing certain things. Same with food. I've stopped eating while..(fill
in the blank).

I eat only at the table, set properly and beautifully: not at the
computer, not at the fridge, and not while reading or... . The only
time I allow myself to eat differently is in the park after my walk, or
at the library while doing research, or in a work site lunch room. Then
I take my lunch outside or into the lunch area.

I found this very hard to do at first. Gets easier with practise. I
also follow-up with Luna's suggestions. Fresh mouth, lipstick.
I'm so kewl...


Zee