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Old August 27th, 2004, 08:45 AM
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Roger Zoul wrote:

Bev-Ann wrote:
|| The general rule is, if you're hungry eat now, if you're starving you
|| should have eaten 30 minutes ago.

Nonsense....after a while, the hunger pang subside.


Yep, the stomach just need to whine a bit, because it is so spoiled
being used to getting all it wants. If you ignore it, it will stop
whining and accept that you are in control, not the stomach. Stomachs
need to be shown who's in charge, or it will become insecure and engage
a power struggle.
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Old August 27th, 2004, 01:01 PM
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Archon wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::
::: Bev-Ann wrote:
::::: The general rule is, if you're hungry eat now, if you're starving
::::: you should have eaten 30 minutes ago.
:::
::: Nonsense....after a while, the hunger pang subside.
:::
::
:: Yep, the stomach just need to whine a bit, because it is so spoiled
:: being used to getting all it wants. If you ignore it, it will stop
:: whining and accept that you are in control, not the stomach. Stomachs
:: need to be shown who's in charge, or it will become insecure and
:: engage a power struggle.



I fasted for 36 hours this past Sunday/Monday. The hunger pangs don't
increase without bound. They come and go, but they can be controlled and one
can sleep with them, or at least I can. I don't think I'm special.


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Old August 27th, 2004, 01:01 PM
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Archon wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::
::: Bev-Ann wrote:
::::: The general rule is, if you're hungry eat now, if you're starving
::::: you should have eaten 30 minutes ago.
:::
::: Nonsense....after a while, the hunger pang subside.
:::
::
:: Yep, the stomach just need to whine a bit, because it is so spoiled
:: being used to getting all it wants. If you ignore it, it will stop
:: whining and accept that you are in control, not the stomach. Stomachs
:: need to be shown who's in charge, or it will become insecure and
:: engage a power struggle.



I fasted for 36 hours this past Sunday/Monday. The hunger pangs don't
increase without bound. They come and go, but they can be controlled and one
can sleep with them, or at least I can. I don't think I'm special.


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Old September 1st, 2004, 05:26 PM
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I'm writing a book about this whole dieting phenomenon (yes, Andrew, I know
I have missed the deadline by about one or two years?) and many times I
stop to think if it is all for little purpose. How many folks can I
actually assist with diet/exercise problems if the majority need to address
the emotional and psychological dilemmas as the foremost step.


On 25 Aug 2004 00:20:13 GMT, Sunshyne wrote:

Go for it, write the book. I will read it for sure. There are alot of people
who can benifit from this. For some of us.. Not sure on how many. The most
important first step is the emotional and psychological dilemmas. The most
important part of the Atkins book to me, is the emotional and psychological
parts of it. I wish it went a little deeper though.


Thank you for the encouragement. I needed to sell at least one other copy
than to my family and friends. lol

Many on the diet newsgroups dislike the discussions of religion
particularly Chung's and mine on Christianity. But I tell you that, as in
all things involving human turmoil, the root of these answers must be found
outside of the human condition, the human existence. Psychology fails the
overfats, or they fail it; the majority, then, are doomed to fail. Is there
no solace for these poor folks?


On 25 Aug 2004 00:20:13 GMT, Sunshyne wrote:

I got solace from a variety of sources. The main one being that I became a
Christian a year and a half ago. It led to a road of self discovery, self love.
I wouldn't have become what I am today, if not for this. It was one of the
major steps.


Congrats to you.

At least in doing so, there *is* discussion, recognition that many of
the basic answers to this overfat populace of ours do not, nor ever will,
be found outside of supernatural intervention.


On 25 Aug 2004 00:20:13 GMT, Sunshyne wrote:

For me, yes it was inviting God, and Jesus into my heart, my life. But I think
that others find their own ways, individually, and get the answers they need.


I support your optimism but I am not so optimistic that you are correct.

If those supernatural assistances are not discussed, then the value of
these various Usenet groups is severely diminished.


On 25 Aug 2004 00:20:13 GMT, Sunshyne wrote:

I don't discuss these things. Though I wish I did more so. I found it inside
me lately to stand up for what I believe in. What I wish to share with others,
that may be in similair situations like I was. Sorta like a wounded healer.

Standing up for what I am, what I believe in, comes with a price though at
times. I came to the conclusion that if I don't stand up for myself, I lose
parts of me, my inner power. I guess it got to the point I will not trade my
inner power and peace, to keep the peace. I will not live in anothers shadow. I
have my own light.


Yes, the price. There is always a price with success.

If you would like more into this part. Email me. I could use a ear that will
listen. From a fellow Christian.


Please, do not take this wrongly. I spend what time I have posting openly.
Email is not my thing.
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Old September 1st, 2004, 05:27 PM
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If there is no God, then yes, there is no solace. Dismissing discussions

on
supernatural aid, Christ and Christianity, makes no sense at all.


On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:23:04 -0700, GaryG wrote:

I disagree. As a happy secular humanist/agnostic, I find solace in many
things - my kids, a beautiful sunrise, the beauty of athletics as
represented at the Olympics, the feeling of the wind blowing over my arms as
I ride my bike, etc., etc., etc.


Yes ma'am, all beautiful those things truly are.

If believing in something that can't be seen or felt or heard or measured
makes someone feel better about themselves, I have no problem with that.
But, rest assured that many people lead lives filled with joy, beauty, and
meaning without having to have "faith" in the unseen.


Christ is only unseen to those who have no faith in Him. One can feel good
in this temporal world without Christ, no doubt about it. One of Satan's
master diversions.

However, when one looks at a few human years of "joy" vs an eternity of
Hell or Heaven, life on Earth pales in comparison regardless of how happy
one might be.
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Old September 1st, 2004, 05:27 PM
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If there is no God, then yes, there is no solace. Dismissing discussions

on
supernatural aid, Christ and Christianity, makes no sense at all.


On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:23:04 -0700, GaryG wrote:

I disagree. As a happy secular humanist/agnostic, I find solace in many
things - my kids, a beautiful sunrise, the beauty of athletics as
represented at the Olympics, the feeling of the wind blowing over my arms as
I ride my bike, etc., etc., etc.


Yes ma'am, all beautiful those things truly are.

If believing in something that can't be seen or felt or heard or measured
makes someone feel better about themselves, I have no problem with that.
But, rest assured that many people lead lives filled with joy, beauty, and
meaning without having to have "faith" in the unseen.


Christ is only unseen to those who have no faith in Him. One can feel good
in this temporal world without Christ, no doubt about it. One of Satan's
master diversions.

However, when one looks at a few human years of "joy" vs an eternity of
Hell or Heaven, life on Earth pales in comparison regardless of how happy
one might be.
 




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