Hunger sucks

Luna wrote:
|| In article ,
|| (The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:
||
||| Luna wrote:
|||
|||| I swear, if God came down from heaven today and solved all of
|||| humaniy's current problems,
||||
|||| Even though I am not a religious person, I am going to start a
|||| ritual of giving a silent thanks before each meal. Since I don't
|||| believe in god,
|||
||| hmmm. what's wrong with this picture?
|||
||
|| Huh, maybe I should have said that it's a BIG if in the first
|| statement. But I thought it was pretty clear that it was not meant
|| literally as something that was actually likely to happen. I could
|| just as easily have said if aliens came down and solved our problems
|| with superior technology, or if a sorceror appeared and solved our
|| problems with magic, both of which are still illustrations, not
|| actual scientific hypotheses. On rereading yet again, I still think
|| it was obvious that I wasn't being literal in my first statement.
|| Obvious to anyone who isn't hard of thinking, anyway. I'll try to be
|| more sensitive to your disabilities in the future.

It was obvious.

Luna wrote:

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

I swear, if God came down from heaven today and solved all of humaniy's
current problems,

Even though I am not a religious person, I am going to start a ritual of
giving a silent thanks before each meal. Since I don't believe in god,

hmmm. what's wrong with this picture?


Huh, maybe I should have said that it's a BIG if in the first statement.
But I thought it was pretty clear that it was not meant literally as
something that was actually likely to happen. I could just as easily have
said if aliens came down and solved our problems with superior technology,
or if a sorceror appeared and solved our problems with magic, both of which
are still illustrations, not actual scientific hypotheses. On rereading
yet again, I still think it was obvious that I wasn't being literal in my
first statement. Obvious to anyone who isn't hard of thinking, anyway.
I'll try to be more sensitive to your disabilities in the future.

it's not my disability, dear. it's just bad writing.

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

I swear, if God came down from heaven today and solved all of humaniy's
current problems,

Even though I am not a religious person, I am going to start a ritual of
giving a silent thanks before each meal. Since I don't believe in god,

hmmm. what's wrong with this picture?


Huh, maybe I should have said that it's a BIG if in the first statement.
But I thought it was pretty clear that it was not meant literally as
something that was actually likely to happen. I could just as easily have
said if aliens came down and solved our problems with superior technology,
or if a sorceror appeared and solved our problems with magic, both of which
are still illustrations, not actual scientific hypotheses. On rereading
yet again, I still think it was obvious that I wasn't being literal in my
first statement. Obvious to anyone who isn't hard of thinking, anyway.
I'll try to be more sensitive to your disabilities in the future.

it's not my disability, dear. it's just bad writing.

There was nothing wrong with my writing. It's just bad reading on your
part. Do you also have trouble understanding that when people say "Oh my
god!" they may not actually be starting a prayer? Do metaphors and
similies trip you up as well? If you read "There were stars in her eyes"
do you take it literally? I have to wonder, since you can't tell the
difference between a hyperbolic illustration and a statement of fact. It's
ok, you'll figure it out eventually.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Nice post Luna--withdrawl seems to agree with you.

We should always be thankful for everything even the bad. I think the
worst thing you can ever THINK is that it can't get worse than it is.
Cause Life, Nature, Chance, Destiny, the Gods will prove to you just
how utterly unimaginitive you are. Even death is a good thing because
there are many things more painful and terrible than death.

And yes foods have become the enemy but not through each consumers
fault. Most of us never have any control over what we buy. Organic
foods are very expensive and many people don't have the luxury of
voting with their wallets. And you don't really know what you're
buying. I read an article years ago that said it is impossible to buy
organic corn--absolutely all of it had been crossbred with genetically
engineered corn. And we all have found that labels lie and decieve.

Other markets show the same problem--cars. DO people really not want
air bags, curtian side air bags, crumble zone, BS brakes, DTR lights,
automatic wipers, and auto lights? These things promote safer driving
and have been proven to save more lives. ANybody out there into dying?
Yet they all cost more more. In the past and even now they are LUXURY
items--not meant for the lower class who can't afford it. We can't
vote with our wallets and control the manufacturing chain the way the
capitalistic-free market is supposed to work. That's why inferior
products usually become the norm instead of the best.


DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
350/275/Jul-269/200
Atkins since Jan 12, 2004
Maint.-70 carbs/day (CCLL=50-60)

Do you ever talk or write about Santa Claus? Or the Easter Bunny? Just
because one doesn't believe that God exists doesn't mean one cannot discuss
God hypothetically. God may not exist as an entity but there is no doubt
that God exists as a concept in people's minds.

In ,
The Queen of Cans and Jars stated
|
| it's not my disability, dear. it's just bad writing.

In article ,
DigitalVinyl wrote:

Nice post Luna--withdrawl seems to agree with you.

We should always be thankful for everything even the bad. I think the
worst thing you can ever THINK is that it can't get worse than it is.
Cause Life, Nature, Chance, Destiny, the Gods will prove to you just
how utterly unimaginitive you are. Even death is a good thing because
there are many things more painful and terrible than death.

And yes foods have become the enemy but not through each consumers
fault. Most of us never have any control over what we buy.

Huh whah?

Organic foods are very expensive and many people don't have the luxury of
voting with their wallets.

So what? Organic, shmorganic. Who cares?

And you don't really know what you're
buying.

Exactly. Since you can't really know, don't bother buying the "organic"
produce. Just buy the regular stuff. Or grow your own.

I read an article years ago that said it is impossible to buy
organic corn--absolutely all of it had been crossbred with genetically
engineered corn.

And that's a problem why? I don't get why genetic engineering is so scary,
but crossbreeding the old-fashioned way is ok. One's just faster than the
other.


And we all have found that labels lie and decieve.

If it's that big a deal to you, then grow your own food.


Other markets show the same problem--cars. DO people really not want
air bags, curtian side air bags, crumble zone, BS brakes, DTR lights,
automatic wipers, and auto lights? These things promote safer driving
and have been proven to save more lives. ANybody out there into dying?
Yet they all cost more more. In the past and even now they are LUXURY
items--not meant for the lower class who can't afford it. We can't
vote with our wallets and control the manufacturing chain the way the
capitalistic-free market is supposed to work. That's why inferior
products usually become the norm instead of the best.

You've got some really screwy ideas about how the world works. If you want
a better car, it costs more money. If you want more money, earn more. You
seem to have a different definition of "choice" than the rest of the world.
Instead of "we can't vote with our wallets" try the more truthful "I can't
afford nice things because the choices I've made in life did not make me
rich enough to afford them." Prices are set by what individuals, you, me,
everyone, chooses to buy. Our individual choices are what determine
quality and price. If something is crappy enough, then not enough people
will buy it to keep that company in business. Likewise if something is too
expensive. The only case where consumers actually don't have a lot of
power or choice is in monopoly government programs. They can be as crappy
and expensive as they want to be.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

In article ,
DigitalVinyl wrote:

Nice post Luna--withdrawl seems to agree with you.

We should always be thankful for everything even the bad. I think the
worst thing you can ever THINK is that it can't get worse than it is.
Cause Life, Nature, Chance, Destiny, the Gods will prove to you just
how utterly unimaginitive you are. Even death is a good thing because
there are many things more painful and terrible than death.

And yes foods have become the enemy but not through each consumers
fault. Most of us never have any control over what we buy.

Huh whah?

Organic foods are very expensive and many people don't have the luxury of
voting with their wallets.

So what? Organic, shmorganic. Who cares?

And you don't really know what you're
buying.

Exactly. Since you can't really know, don't bother buying the "organic"
produce. Just buy the regular stuff. Or grow your own.

I read an article years ago that said it is impossible to buy
organic corn--absolutely all of it had been crossbred with genetically
engineered corn.

And that's a problem why? I don't get why genetic engineering is so scary,
but crossbreeding the old-fashioned way is ok. One's just faster than the
other.


And we all have found that labels lie and decieve.

If it's that big a deal to you, then grow your own food.


Other markets show the same problem--cars. DO people really not want
air bags, curtian side air bags, crumble zone, BS brakes, DTR lights,
automatic wipers, and auto lights? These things promote safer driving
and have been proven to save more lives. ANybody out there into dying?
Yet they all cost more more. In the past and even now they are LUXURY
items--not meant for the lower class who can't afford it. We can't
vote with our wallets and control the manufacturing chain the way the
capitalistic-free market is supposed to work. That's why inferior
products usually become the norm instead of the best.

You've got some really screwy ideas about how the world works. If you want
a better car, it costs more money. If you want more money, earn more. You
seem to have a different definition of "choice" than the rest of the world.
Instead of "we can't vote with our wallets" try the more truthful "I can't
afford nice things because the choices I've made in life did not make me
rich enough to afford them." Prices are set by what individuals, you, me,
everyone, chooses to buy. Our individual choices are what determine
quality and price. If something is crappy enough, then not enough people
will buy it to keep that company in business. Likewise if something is too
expensive. The only case where consumers actually don't have a lot of
power or choice is in monopoly government programs. They can be as crappy
and expensive as they want to be.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Luna wrote:
:: In article ,
:: (The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:
::
::: Luna wrote:
:::
:::: In article ,
:::: (The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:
::::
::::: Luna wrote:
:::::
:::::: I swear, if God came down from heaven today and solved all of
:::::: humaniy's current problems,
::::::
:::::: Even though I am not a religious person, I am going to start a
:::::: ritual of giving a silent thanks before each meal. Since I
:::::: don't believe in god,
:::::
::::: hmmm. what's wrong with this picture?
:::::
::::
:::: Huh, maybe I should have said that it's a BIG if in the first
:::: statement. But I thought it was pretty clear that it was not meant
:::: literally as something that was actually likely to happen. I
:::: could just as easily have said if aliens came down and solved our
:::: problems with superior technology, or if a sorceror appeared and
:::: solved our problems with magic, both of which are still
:::: illustrations, not actual scientific hypotheses. On rereading yet
:::: again, I still think it was obvious that I wasn't being literal in
:::: my first statement. Obvious to anyone who isn't hard of thinking,
:::: anyway. I'll try to be more sensitive to your disabilities in the
:::: future.
:::
::: it's not my disability, dear. it's just bad writing.
::
:: There was nothing wrong with my writing. It's just bad reading on
:: your part. Do you also have trouble understanding that when people
:: say "Oh my god!" they may not actually be starting a prayer? Do
:: metaphors and similies trip you up as well? If you read "There were
:: stars in her eyes" do you take it literally? I have to wonder, since
:: you can't tell the difference between a hyperbolic illustration and
:: a statement of fact. It's ok, you'll figure it out eventually.

Settle down a bit....

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:26:10 GMT, Luna
wrote:

And that's a problem why? I don't get why genetic engineering is so scary,
but crossbreeding the old-fashioned way is ok. One's just faster than the
other.
Yes. I just love mouse animal dna my strawberries. And please add
some more of that good delicious bug dna to my vegetables. Mmm good.
And another serving of cow steroids in my milk and beef if you please.
And I absolutely demand more antibiotics in the chicken feed and fresh
farmed shrimp and salmon. What's a chemical feast without a little
cross species genetic frankenfood? Moonchild. We may eat it because
that is what is in our food chain now. But we don't have to like it.

Lee Rodgers
Lowcarb Retreat http://www.lowcarb.org
CHAT http://www.lowcarb.org/parachat.html
Low-Carb Connoisseur http://www.low-carb.com

I'll just
remind myself in general to be grateful to live in an age and country of
abundance, remind myself that it wasn't always this way and it still isn't
this way everywhere in the world, and remind myself not to take even one
bite of food for granted. Having to struggle to lose weight is a luxury in
the eyes of those who are truly hungry.

Very nicely said. Want one reason why Americans are reviled internationally
(especially in Muslim dominated countries. Here is one Luna points out.