Cooking With Carbs

I know Adkins considers a carb a carb, no matter if a complex carb or simple
carb. However, if you combine and cook the carbs, does it alter them? In
other words if you have 4 carbs from one ingredient and 4 carbs from another
ingredient, does it indeed equal 8 carbs or do other things happen. Do the fat
or protein grams ever convert themselves to carbs? If I have 8 carbs and 4 fat
grams will combining and cooking the ingredients change anything?

Thanks,

Anon

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"Anon891" wrote in message
...
I know Adkins considers a carb a carb, no matter if a complex carb or
simple
carb. However, if you combine and cook the carbs, does it alter them? In
other words if you have 4 carbs from one ingredient and 4 carbs from
another
ingredient, does it indeed equal 8 carbs or do other things happen. Do
the fat
or protein grams ever convert themselves to carbs? If I have 8 carbs and
4 fat
grams will combining and cooking the ingredients change anything?

Thanks,

Anon

Ok.. I will pass along the standard replies:

Read the book

It's A*T*kins..

And what JC said.. go to school and learn basic math.

Teeb

"Anon891" wrote in message
...
I know Adkins considers a carb a carb, no matter if a complex carb or
simple
carb. However, if you combine and cook the carbs, does it alter them? In
other words if you have 4 carbs from one ingredient and 4 carbs from
another
ingredient, does it indeed equal 8 carbs or do other things happen. Do
the fat
or protein grams ever convert themselves to carbs? If I have 8 carbs and
4 fat
grams will combining and cooking the ingredients change anything?

Thanks,

Anon

No, cooking doesn't change carbs, proteins or fats into each other.

Common misconceptions occur when newbies look at carb counters, because
a cup of cooked vegetables often contains two or three times as much
as would fit in the cup when they were raw.


Anon891 wrote:
I know Adkins considers a carb a carb, no matter if a complex carb or simple
carb. However, if you combine and cook the carbs, does it alter them? In
other words if you have 4 carbs from one ingredient and 4 carbs from another
ingredient, does it indeed equal 8 carbs or do other things happen. Do the fat
or protein grams ever convert themselves to carbs? If I have 8 carbs and 4 fat
grams will combining and cooking the ingredients change anything?


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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 01:35:39 +0000, Anon891 wrote:

I know Adkins considers a carb a carb, no matter if a complex carb or
simple carb. However, if you combine and cook the carbs, does it alter
them? In other words if you have 4 carbs from one ingredient and 4 carbs
from another ingredient, does it indeed equal 8 carbs or do other things
happen.

If you add beano to mashed veggies, fiber will decrease and carbs
increase (though I have no reason to believe that the net effect is
more than negligible). If you let the pot sit for a while, microbeasties
will consume the carbs. If the result is wine, vinegar, or yogurt, that
could still be a good thing. Some uncooked beans contain rather nasty
protective chemicals, which if not properly cooked can eliminate most
carbs consumed in the same meal, but not in desirable ways.

Other than that, not, particularly.

Do the fat or protein grams ever convert themselves to carbs?

Not usually.

If
I have 8 carbs and 4 fat grams will combining and cooking the ingredients
change anything?

Presumably, your spoonful of fat will crisp-tender your 8 carbs of
cruciferous vegetables to a perfect turn. If not, you're not doing
it right.

Other than throwing part of the food away, nothing people ordinarily
do in kitchens (except for the microbeasties part, above) will affect
basic nutritional values.

Martin 215/167/165 since April 2004
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Anon891 wrote:
| I know Adkins considers a carb a carb, no matter if a complex carb or
| simple carb. However,

| if you combine and cook the carbs, does it alter
| them? NO

In other words if you have 4 carbs from one ingredient and 4 carbs
| from another ingredient, does it indeed equal 8 carbs YES

or do other things happen. NO

Do the fat or protein grams ever convert themselves to carbs? NO

| If I have 8 carbs and 4 fat grams will combining and cooking the
| ingredients change anything? NO

| Thanks,
| Anon

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Peter
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On 2/16/2004 8:38 PM, JC Der Koenig wrote:
Are you going, or have you ever gone to any type of educational institution?


Oh, so you were also wondering who "Adkins" is? ;-)

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jmk in NC

Martin Golding wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 01:35:39 +0000, Anon891 wrote:


I know Adkins considers a carb a carb, no matter if a complex carb or
simple carb. However, if you combine and cook the carbs, does it alter
them? In other words if you have 4 carbs from one ingredient and 4 carbs
from another ingredient, does it indeed equal 8 carbs or do other things
happen.

If you add beano to mashed veggies, fiber will decrease and carbs
increase (though I have no reason to believe that the net effect is
more than negligible).

Beano is an enzyme from Aspergillis niger (IIRC) that converts
oligosaccharides into digestible sugars. So the fiber goes down
*significantly* and the carbs are likewise increased. You don't have
to add it to the veggies. Taking a few drops with the first mouthful
of the offending veggies will take care of the whole batch you consume.

If you let the pot sit for a while, microbeasties
will consume the carbs.

Fermentation is not to be encouraged in the home kitchen. g

If the result is wine, vinegar, or yogurt, that
could still be a good thing. Some uncooked beans contain rather nasty
protective chemicals, which if not properly cooked can eliminate most
carbs consumed in the same meal, but not in desirable ways.

Some uncooked beans harbor enough natural insecticides and other
chemicals to make them worth a second thought if consumed regularly.

Other than that, not, particularly.

Do the fat or protein grams ever convert themselves to carbs?

Not usually.

No.

If
I have 8 carbs and 4 fat grams will combining and cooking the ingredients
change anything?

Presumably, your spoonful of fat will crisp-tender your 8 carbs of
cruciferous vegetables to a perfect turn. If not, you're not doing
it right.

"Right" is in the eye of the masticator. Or mouth. Or something.

Other than throwing part of the food away, nothing people ordinarily
do in kitchens (except for the microbeasties part, above) will affect
basic nutritional values.

Exactly so.

Pastorio

"Bob (this one)" wrote in message ...

Fermentation is not to be encouraged in the home kitchen. g

My mileage varies. I make bread and cheese now and plan to make wine
and vinegar in the near future.

Anon891 wrote:

I know Adkins considers a carb a carb, no matter if a
complex carb or simple carb.

You might know that but that doesn't make it true. 20 grams via a
Snickers bar is absolutely not the same as 20 grams via a bucket
sized helping of broccoli.

As the gram counts, though, it is the total grams that are used.

However, if you combine and cook the carbs, does it alter them?

The carb count is not reduced in any way. In fact fiber is changed
into digestible carbs to some extent so the carb count can go up.

In other words if you have 4 carbs from one ingredient and 4 carbs
from another ingredient, does it indeed equal 8 carbs or do other
things happen.

Yes, 4 + 4 does in fact equal 8.

Do the fat or protein grams ever convert themselves to carbs?

After digestion, inside the body, eventually yes. Especially in the
case of prtotein that's why Atkins is high-fat, medium-protein and
low-carb. Excess protein gets converted to carbs to burn it, 50ish%
efficiency.