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Predisposition towards obesity is genetic
"tcomeau" wrote in message om... It is genetic. We are genetically wired to eat diets with no manufactured and refined carbohydrates. TC Well said. Tom 210/180/180 |
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Predisposition towards obesity is genetic
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:22:12 GMT, "Tom" wrote:
Pima Indians also have one of the highest rates of Type II Diabetes in the world. 50% of all adults are affected. Yep. Barbara Hirsch, Publisher OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development http://www.obesity-news.com/ |
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Predisposition towards obesity is genetic
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:22:12 GMT, "Tom" wrote:
Pima Indians also have one of the highest rates of Type II Diabetes in the world. 50% of all adults are affected. Yep. Barbara Hirsch, Publisher OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development http://www.obesity-news.com/ |
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Predisposition towards obesity is genetic
Patricia Heil wrote:
Please, people, don't make the mistake of generalizing to yourself to say "because I am obese I am genetically predisposed." Nobody is genetically predisposed to being obese, they just have to work harder not to gain weight. I once discussed it with a doctor (who said it was a bad excuse that the genes caused a person's overweight) and I said she couldn't deny some people gain easier than others, and she just said: "then they MUST work harder." |
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Predisposition towards obesity is genetic
"Ignoramus22273" wrote in message ... Before people start flaming me without thinking, let me preface this excerpt from a study with this. Predisposition towards obesity is genetic. It turns into obesity by environment (too much food, wrong food and lack of exercise). Pima indians were not fat 300 years ago (we think). Predisposition can be overcome, sometimes, by diet and exercise. But, people blaming their childhood home environment for their obesity, may be wrong. According to the article, ``a number of studies have described a closer relationship between the weights of adoptees and their biological parents rather than their adoptive parents''. So, environment in adoptive homes did not have nearly as much effect on adoptees, compared to who was their biological parent. A question that is open is this. As parents, we try to create some sort of healthy environment for our children, so that they grow up as fit people. Are our efforts statistically doomed to be irrelevant to their final health? It is hard to believe, and does not, strictly speaking, follow from the adoptee finding, but it is a disconcerting thought. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- read this and weep... http://www.med.nus.edu.sg/paed/medic...cs_obesity.htm ``Studies in twins, adoptees and families indicate that as much as 80% of the variance in the body mass index is attributable to genetic factors. Twin studies suggest a heritability of fat mass of between 40-70%. Concordance between monozygotic twins is 0.7-0.9, compared to 0.35-0.45 between dizygotic twins. While these associations may in part be explained by sharing the same childhood environment, a number of studies have described a closer relationship between the weights of adoptees and their biological parents rather than their adoptive parents. These genetic influences are not confined to the extremes of obesity, but exert their effect across the whole range of body weight and are consistent with a polygenic inheritance of fat mass. The potential implication of genetic factors in the development of human obesity is well demonstrated by the description of six monogenic forms of the pathological human obesity to date. These genes encode proteins of the leptin axis and brain-expressed targets of leptin involved in the melanocortin pathway. They include leptin, the leptin receptor, pro-opiomelanocortin (POMC), proconvertase 1 (PC1), Peroxisome-proliferator-activated receptor g2 (PPARg2), and the melanocortin-4 receptor (MC4-R). Except for MC4-R, mutations in these genes cause rare, recessive, syndromic forms of obesity, associated with multiple endocrine abnormalities. '' |
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Predisposition towards obesity is genetic
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:25:39 -0700, Michael Nielsen
wrote: Patricia Heil wrote: Please, people, don't make the mistake of generalizing to yourself to say "because I am obese I am genetically predisposed." Nobody is genetically predisposed to being obese, they just have to work harder not to gain weight. I once discussed it with a doctor (who said it was a bad excuse that the genes caused a person's overweight) and I said she couldn't deny some people gain easier than others, and she just said: "then they MUST work harder." Symantics. Having a harder time keeping weight off IS a genetic predisposition to obesity. You're confusing genetics with laziness. No one ever said that given enough dedication almost everyone can lose weight and keep it off. I'm living proof. Barbara 210/124 since November 1997 Barbara Hirsch, Publisher OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development http://www.obesity-news.com/ |
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Predisposition towards obesity is genetic
Barbara Hirsch wrote:
Symantics. Having a harder time keeping weight off IS a genetic predisposition to obesity. You're confusing genetics with laziness. No one ever said that given enough dedication almost everyone can lose weight and keep it off. I'm living proof. It may be semantics, but I think it is counter-productive to call it predisposition to obesity, because that way it is used as an excuse. "I have a slow metabolism and thus need to work harder" is a better phrase. |
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Predisposition towards obesity is genetic
Barbara Hirsch wrote:
Symantics. Having a harder time keeping weight off IS a genetic predisposition to obesity. You're confusing genetics with laziness. No one ever said that given enough dedication almost everyone can lose weight and keep it off. I'm living proof. It may be semantics, but I think it is counter-productive to call it predisposition to obesity, because that way it is used as an excuse. "I have a slow metabolism and thus need to work harder" is a better phrase. |
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Predisposition towards obesity is genetic
Ignoramus19260 wrote:
Just because something can be used as an excuse, does not make it any less real. I dind't say it *can* be used as an excuse, but it is worded as an excuse. And it is false to say that one is fat because of the genetic predisposition. One is fat because one didn't have the drive, motivation, ambition, inspiration, stubbornness, selfrespect to work to avoid it. Now I'm not talking about physical illness factors (although mental illness factors are included). |
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Predisposition towards obesity is genetic
Ignoramus19260 wrote:
Just because something can be used as an excuse, does not make it any less real. I dind't say it *can* be used as an excuse, but it is worded as an excuse. And it is false to say that one is fat because of the genetic predisposition. One is fat because one didn't have the drive, motivation, ambition, inspiration, stubbornness, selfrespect to work to avoid it. Now I'm not talking about physical illness factors (although mental illness factors are included). |
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