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Old November 28th, 2007, 08:03 PM posted to alt.support.diet
moi kytano
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Is it bad to eat something about 1 hour befor going to bed?

I just cant sleep if i didn't take any food

And do you suggest me to eat so late..?

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Old November 28th, 2007, 09:55 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Nov 28, 3:03 pm, "moi kytano" wrote:
Is it bad to eat something about 1 hour befor going to bed?

I just cant sleep if i didn't take any food

And do you suggest me to eat so late..?

tnx

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I've never had problems eating before bed time. In fact, I can't go
to sleep if I'm too hungry. I try to eat something easy to digest and
not very calorie laden. Yogurt or grapes are my usual choices.

If you're trying to lose weight it shouldn't matter when you eat as
long as you stay within your calorie allowance.

Beverly
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Old November 29th, 2007, 12:15 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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"moi kytano" of t-com wrote:
Is it bad to eat something about 1 hour befor going to bed?

I just cant sleep if i didn't take any food


I acquired the habit of eating before going to bed as a kid, and have
continued it as an adult. It's now too ingrained for me to give it up, but
it's habit, not real hunger. So I try to eat something very small with only
about 20 calories - a single sun dried tomato, a crispbread, a low fat
cheese spread portion, a single walnut, a slice of Quorn meat substitute. I
avoid sweet things at this time, even fruit, as I find them less
psychologicaly satisfying.

Having eaten a small item I then turn on the alarm system and go upstairs so
that I'd have to turn it off again to reach the kitchen to eat any more. I
also clean my teeth, since toothpaste spoils the taste of food. By using
these tricks to restrain me from eating more I've got used to a much smaller
snack before bed.

Steph
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Old November 29th, 2007, 04:45 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Nov 28, 12:03 pm, "moi kytano" wrote:
Is it bad to eat something about 1 hour befor going to bed?
I just cant sleep if i didn't take any food
And do you suggest me to eat so late..?



Unless you suffer from say acid reflux, it doesnt matter if you eat
even right before you hop into bed.
Its the number of overall calories consumed in a day that really
matters.
Its said not to eat after a certain time (never after 6pm etc)because
people tend to overeat/eat snacks later at night.
But think about it, you are sleeping for perhaps eight hours (lucky
you!) with no food and when you sleep your body
repairs itself, so why wouldnt/shouldnt you eat before bedtime?
I like to eat something lighter like cottage cheese/fruit or a bowl of
cereal before bedtime.


joanne
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Old November 30th, 2007, 02:30 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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Default eating before sleep?

On Nov 28, 12:03 pm, "moi kytano" wrote:
Is it bad to eat something about 1 hour befor going to bed?

I just cant sleep if i didn't take any food

And do you suggest me to eat so late..?

tnx

--www.myPopQ.com- let's find out.


It is OK to eat something before bed of course. It has been shown in
animal studies...mice I believe that eating large meals instead of
smaller ones but both regimes consuming the same calories, that the
binge eaters picked up weight. In this regard, it might even be
better, but probably not significant to eat a little before bedtime. I
don't because I have no good concept of when I am hungry or not, so I
don't trust my hunger mechanism at all. When I used to be fat, I could
consume a huge meal, then still feel hungry. Conversely, I noticed I
was starving at nighttime....but if I didn't eat and went to bed, in
the morning I would get up and not be as hungry as the night
before...this after essentially 7 hours of not eating and having felt
starved the night before.

I think this is a big part of the diet problem. Of course there are
people who eat like birds and fill up very quickly, but of course they
are quite thin. The rest of us seem to have huge appetites and never
really feel full. Probably in times of food shortage which was
throughout most of man's existence, it was a survival mechanism to be
hungry and consume as much food as you possibly could...high fat food
at that, since you might not be eating in a long time. Unfortunately,
people haven't been able to shed this mechanism even though food is
plentiful in much of the world. dkw
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Old November 30th, 2007, 11:24 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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" of http://groups.google.com wrote:
I think this is a big part of the diet problem. Of course there are
people who eat like birds and fill up very quickly, but of course they
are quite thin. The rest of us seem to have huge appetites and never
really feel full. Probably in times of food shortage which was
throughout most of man's existence, it was a survival mechanism to be
hungry and consume as much food as you possibly could...high fat food
at that, since you might not be eating in a long time.

Also I think this is behaviour we learn as children. If you were brought
up, as I was, in a household where everything on the plate had to be
finished with no exceptions, then you didn't get to learn when you were full
in order to stop eating. I learnt to keep on eating after getting full,
with the result that I no longer really know when I'm full and should stop.
This is a really bad thing for parents to be teaching children; they need to
learn when to stop.

I've got over the not leaving anything on the plate hang-up, even when I'm
in control of what goes on the plate to begin with. But knowing when I'm
full is more of a problem. I have to use portion control in the kitchen
when cooking and serving food so that I only have modest amounts on the
plate. I've also found it good for me to eat dinner, have a moderate sized
drink (tea/water usually) and wait some time before deciding on dessert.
After half an hour or so I can accurately assess that either I am hungry and
need more food or not. If I ask myself this question on finishing the main
course then I always want something else, whereas after a wait some days I
am full and do not want more food.

Steph
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Old December 1st, 2007, 01:20 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Nov 28, 12:03 pm, "moi kytano" wrote:
Is it bad to eat something about 1 hour befor going to bed?


I don't think it makes a difference to gross weight management.

However, if you want to have a picture-perfect, ripped beach body,
then this kind of thing does make a difference.

Fact is, that when you go to sleep, your metabolism is about to slow
down, so it's a bad time to be fueling up.

Your body doesn't care about caloric accounting over an entire day or
week. If you stuff yourself relative to your instantaneous activity
level, you have an instantaneous surplus which is generating fat!

If you're already lean, and want to become leaner, then it's no longer
just about calories.

Fat is easy to store and it's difficult to mobilize out of storage, if
you aren't carrying lots of it. A caloric surplus of X can store fat
more easily than a deficit -X can take it out. Even though X cancels -
X energetically (no surplus or deficit) you can end up with fat being
stored. Of course, since there is no energetic surplus or deficit,
this storage of fat must be balanced by a cut somewhere else: a
metabolic slowdown, or loss of lean mass!

In other words, if you suddenly overeat by 2000 calories in some meal,
you cannot repent for it by subsequently cutting back on 2000 calories
over the next little while. That cutback will not undo the effects of
the overeating. The fat won't come out as easily as it went in. The
starvation will only slow down your metabolism and attack your lean
mass.

Sure, if you're carrying 80 pounds of body fat, the total calories
matter much more than anything else. Caloric accounting works fairly
accurately, then. If you're carrying only 15 pounds of body fat and
want that to be 8, it doesn't quite work that way any longer. Meal
timing, meal frequency, meal sizes, meal composition all matter.
Whether you do aerobic exercise before or after breakfast matters. All
the little things matter more and more the more perfect you want to
be.
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Old December 1st, 2007, 05:26 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Nov 30, 3:24 pm, Steph Peters
wrote:
" ofhttp://groups.google.comwrote:I think this is a big part of the diet problem. Of course there are
people who eat like birds and fill up very quickly, but of course they
are quite thin. The rest of us seem to have huge appetites and never
really feel full. Probably in times of food shortage which was
throughout most of man's existence, it was a survival mechanism to be
hungry and consume as much food as you possibly could...high fat food
at that, since you might not be eating in a long time.


Also I think this is behaviour we learn as children. If you were brought
up, as I was, in a household where everything on the plate had to be
finished with no exceptions, then you didn't get to learn when you were full
in order to stop eating. I learnt to keep on eating after getting full,
with the result that I no longer really know when I'm full and should stop.
This is a really bad thing for parents to be teaching children; they need to
learn when to stop.

I've got over the not leaving anything on the plate hang-up, even when I'm
in control of what goes on the plate to begin with. But knowing when I'm
full is more of a problem. I have to use portion control in the kitchen
when cooking and serving food so that I only have modest amounts on the
plate. I've also found it good for me to eat dinner, have a moderate sized
drink (tea/water usually) and wait some time before deciding on dessert.
After half an hour or so I can accurately assess that either I am hungry and
need more food or not. If I ask myself this question on finishing the main
course then I always want something else, whereas after a wait some days I
am full and do not want more food.

Steph
239/167/119


That's true. In fact parents, if they aren't careful will tend to eat
their kids food that the kids didn't eat....and conveniently forget
about those calories because they were consumed very quickly while
standing in front of the sink. What I do, and have trained my 12-year-
old to do is to take small portions and then refills if we want them.
Just look at buffets where people waste half or more of the food. Kids
especially put 4 slices of pizza on their plates, then after one
taste, decide they don't really like it. I do have a problem with
that. It does seem wrong to waste food in that manner at least. My
gosh, they could try the smallest piece of pizza then come back for
more. I essentially still eat everything on my plate, but control not
overeating by knowing exactly...almost to the calorie of what. If I
attend a function where they provide large portions of something, I
ask for the smallest and if it is still more than I want to eat, I
have no compunction to "waste" that food. In the good old days, people
always took any leftovers home or before dog food, everyone had dogs
that ate this food, or pigs so nothing got wasted. At a local
restaurant which is in fact a pizza buffet, I asked if they use the
not-eaten pizza for hogs or something, but they don't. This idea is a
continuim of the throw-away society we live in. We essentially throw
away oil by driving Hummers, etc., throw away kids by not taking the
needed time to nurture and rear them properly, and throw away spouses
by divorcing them for any number of reasons. Those kind of problems
begin with the person...me, in this case, and I simply refuse to
contribute to any of it. dkw
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Old December 1st, 2007, 06:27 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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Steph Peters wrote:
This is a really bad thing for parents to be teaching children; they need to
learn when to stop.


I've been pounding my nannies' heads with this
info. If the kids stop eating, then STOP FEEDING
THEM! Every nanny wants the kids to finish what
*she* thinks is a meal, not what the kids think
is a meal.

My 2yo is a great eater. He loves to eat a little
bit of everything. When he's full, he's full.
You can't tempt him with chocolate! I want to keep
it that way.

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Old December 1st, 2007, 08:34 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:03:03 +0100, moi kytano wrote:

Is it bad to eat something about 1 hour befor going to bed?


Depends on what you ate in total before.

I just cant sleep if i didn't take any food


Then eat.

And do you suggest me to eat so late..?

tnx


Sure, then don't eat anymore.
 




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