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Old March 23rd, 2008, 04:48 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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My blood glucose is remaining stubbornly high, despite being on atkins
induction-level low carb diet for months. My diet is very high in
protein, and posters here tell me that 50% of suprplus protein is
converted to sugar, and suggest more fat. However, vegetable fat seems
hard to come by--only so much olive oil I'm willing to drink. Planning
to increase animal fat if my triglycerides get down to a reasonable
level--they've been absurdly high (triple what they should be), so I
have been cutting animal--read saturated--fat, switching, for example,
from ground beef to ground turkey (found it locally for $1.59/lb, as
compared to the national chian supermarket near here, where it's
$4.99/lb). Going to measure my triglyceridesat the end of the month,
and if they're low enough, plan to add animal fat back into my diet to
get blood glucose down. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance....
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 04:53 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:48:40 -0500, Avatar
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My blood glucose is remaining stubbornly high, despite being on atkins
induction-level low carb diet for months. My diet is very high in
protein, and posters here tell me that 50% of suprplus protein is
converted to sugar, and suggest more fat. However, vegetable fat seems
hard to come by--only so much olive oil I'm willing to drink. Planning
to increase animal fat if my triglycerides get down to a reasonable
level--they've been absurdly high (triple what they should be), so I
have been cutting animal--read saturated--fat, switching, for example,
from ground beef to ground turkey (found it locally for $1.59/lb, as
compared to the national chian supermarket near here, where it's
$4.99/lb). Going to measure my triglyceridesat the end of the month,
and if they're low enough, plan to add animal fat back into my diet to
get blood glucose down. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance....


I was recently forced to switch to Low GI Index eating.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 05:14 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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You are only believing part of the message, the part about cutting down on
carbs. The other part is don't worry about saturated fat, actually, animal
fat is only partially saturated so eat more of it along with more olive oil,
avocadoes, etc. How many grams of protein are you eating/day?

From the other things you've been saying, it sounds like your main problem
is BG control. Find yourself a doctor who is committed to working with you
to attain good BG control as it sounds like you will need medication to
help.

Avatar wrote:
| My blood glucose is remaining stubbornly high, despite being on atkins
| induction-level low carb diet for months. My diet is very high in
| protein, and posters here tell me that 50% of suprplus protein is
| converted to sugar, and suggest more fat. However, vegetable fat seems
| hard to come by--only so much olive oil I'm willing to drink. Planning
| to increase animal fat if my triglycerides get down to a reasonable
| level--they've been absurdly high (triple what they should be), so I
| have been cutting animal--read saturated--fat, switching, for example,
| from ground beef to ground turkey (found it locally for $1.59/lb, as
| compared to the national chian supermarket near here, where it's
| $4.99/lb). Going to measure my triglyceridesat the end of the month,
| and if they're low enough, plan to add animal fat back into my diet to
| get blood glucose down. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance....


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Old March 23rd, 2008, 05:21 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Avatar wrote:

My blood glucose is remaining stubbornly high, despite being on atkins
induction-level low carb diet for months.


I've looked at your posting record and you don't have
any posts on any diabetes support newsgroup. Time
for that. It's a chicken-and-egg problem but get that
blood sugar down and all of the features of low carbing
will start working.

While it may work that your triglycerides will drop as
you lose to your low calorie efforts, it is far from clear
that that will turn your blood sugar levels down. The
body can synthesize glucose because your hormone
balance is broken not because of caloric needs. Both
runaway blood sugar and runaway ketones are
symptoms of uncontrolled diabetes.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 05:26 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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You must be a troll.


"Avatar" wrote in message
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My blood glucose is remaining stubbornly high, despite being on atkins
induction-level low carb diet for months. My diet is very high in
protein, and posters here tell me that 50% of suprplus protein is
converted to sugar, and suggest more fat. However, vegetable fat seems
hard to come by--only so much olive oil I'm willing to drink. Planning
to increase animal fat if my triglycerides get down to a reasonable
level--they've been absurdly high (triple what they should be), so I
have been cutting animal--read saturated--fat, switching, for example,
from ground beef to ground turkey (found it locally for $1.59/lb, as
compared to the national chian supermarket near here, where it's
$4.99/lb). Going to measure my triglyceridesat the end of the month,
and if they're low enough, plan to add animal fat back into my diet to
get blood glucose down. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance....



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Old March 23rd, 2008, 08:43 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"Avatar" wrote in message
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My blood glucose is remaining stubbornly high, despite being on atkins
induction-level low carb diet for months. My diet is very high in
protein, and posters here tell me that 50% of suprplus protein is
converted to sugar, and suggest more fat. However, vegetable fat seems
hard to come by--only so much olive oil I'm willing to drink. Planning
to increase animal fat if my triglycerides get down to a reasonable
level--they've been absurdly high (triple what they should be), so I
have been cutting animal--read saturated--fat, switching, for example,
from ground beef to ground turkey (found it locally for $1.59/lb, as
compared to the national chian supermarket near here, where it's
$4.99/lb). Going to measure my triglyceridesat the end of the month,
and if they're low enough, plan to add animal fat back into my diet to
get blood glucose down. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance....


Ah, much we do not know, here. You could be an 80 pound anorexic with type
1 diabetes, and my standard advice would be akin to quackery.

Dr. Richard K. Bernstein has a book you may wish to find.

For my body, there seems to have been two key elements to returning to a
normal A1c. I restricted carbohydrates and reduced my BMI to normal. The
A1c soon followed.

Happy Easter.


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Old March 23rd, 2008, 10:42 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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How many times do we have to tell you--you are either IN ketosis or OUT,
there are no degrees of ketosis. Glucose is 165 when? Before meals, after
meals, one hour, two hours, upon rising? When makes a big difference
though with hardly any carbs you should get big spikes ever.

Avatar wrote:
| Well, next to no ketosis going on, according to the sticks. Glucose is
| not "run-away"--it's at 165, not too horrible. Am planning that my
| weight loss will get me to favorable blood glucose regions.
|
| Plan is to monitor triglycerides, and if they're OK, add animal fat
| back to diet, keep losing weight, and hopefully glucose levels will go
| down at that point.


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Old March 23rd, 2008, 10:43 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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She said GOOD endocrinoligist, one who says lose weight. next. is a BAD
endocrinologist.

Avatar wrote:
| Been to an endocrinologist, all it did was to cost me $300. He said,
| "Lose weight. Next."
|


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Old March 23rd, 2008, 10:44 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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BG is blood glucose. You're a diabetic and you don't know that?

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|
| Hm, what's "BG"?


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Old March 23rd, 2008, 10:54 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:21:47 -0700 (PDT), Doug Freyburger
wrote:

Avatar wrote:

My blood glucose is remaining stubbornly high, despite being on atkins
induction-level low carb diet for months.


I've looked at your posting record and you don't have
any posts on any diabetes support newsgroup. Time
for that. It's a chicken-and-egg problem but get that
blood sugar down and all of the features of low carbing
will start working.

While it may work that your triglycerides will drop as
you lose to your low calorie efforts, it is far from clear
that that will turn your blood sugar levels down. The
body can synthesize glucose because your hormone
balance is broken not because of caloric needs. Both
runaway blood sugar and runaway ketones are
symptoms of uncontrolled diabetes.


Well, next to no ketosis going on, according to the sticks. Glucose is
not "run-away"--it's at 165, not too horrible. Am planning that my
weight loss will get me to favorable blood glucose regions.

Plan is to monitor triglycerides, and if they're OK, add animal fat
back to diet, keep losing weight, and hopefully glucose levels will go
down at that point.

 




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