interesterification of fats

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyour...ification.html

"Tunderbar" wrote in message
...
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyour...ification.html


Gadz!

We are all going to die.

(You know what I mean?)

(You probably don't.)

Our society is going to get sicker than it already is.

I guess that is what I meant to say.

On Mar 31, 1:42*pm, "Cubit" wrote:
"Tunderbar" wrote in message

...

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyour...ification.html

Gadz!

We are all going to die.

(You know what I mean?)

(You probably don't.)

Our society is going to get sicker than it already is.

I guess that is what I meant to say.

Then you have something like Promise Nonfat which contains only a
"negligible amount of fat," the package says. The main ingredient is
water. They use soy lechitin, rice starch, gelatin, water, and a very
small amount of vegetable fat, but nothing like 10% mentioned in the
article, I don't think. At 5 calories per Tsp., it couldn't have much
fat. This tastes pretty good, but I don't think you would have much
success cooking with it with the high water content. Perhaps people
could use more of something like this instead of conventional fats to
trick them into thinking they are eating oil. I don't really eat
anything fried. The only other fat I get is what is in the natural
product, like the fat in OATS...had to get an oats reference in some
way.

The article seemed pretty professional, but I am always a little
suspect of someone who uses the words activism and healing arts along
with farming. Seems a little like a fringe/holisitic/alarmist/wacko
even though I can't disagree with the article...yet. dkw

"Tunderbar" wrote in message
...
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyour...ification.html


Hmmm. I've never heard of this before.

"trans fatty acids in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils are the main
cause of type 2 diabetes, characterized by high levels of both insulin and
glucose in the blood, because they inhibit the insulin receptors in the cell
membranes."

On Mar 31, 3:42 pm, "Cubit" wrote:
"Tunderbar" wrote in message

...

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyour...ification.html

Gadz!

We are all going to die.

(You know what I mean?)

(You probably don't.)

Our society is going to get sicker than it already is.

I guess that is what I meant to say.

Eat real food. You know, the stuff that we ate for thousands ans
thousands of years. Real meat, real fat, real veggies.

Tunderbar wrote:

Eat real food. You know, the stuff that we ate for thousands ans
thousands of years. Real meat, real fat, real veggies.

This is the advice my doctor gave me. She said to get back to nature,
and eat, as if I lived on a farm. Pork? Fat? Fried pork? She did not
care, as long as the food was not processed. She did not care what
fruit, vegetables, beans, meat or bread I ate, as long as it was natural
and unadulterated.

Interesting article, thanks for posting it.

Becca

On Apr 4, 9:09*am, Becca wrote:
Tunderbar wrote:
Eat real food. You know, the stuff that we ate for thousands ans
thousands of years. Real meat, real fat, real veggies.

This is the advice my doctor gave me. *She said to get back to nature,
and eat, as if I lived on a farm. *Pork? *Fat? *Fried pork? *She did not
care, as long as the food was not processed. *She did not care what
fruit, vegetables, beans, meat or bread I ate, as long as it was natural
and unadulterated.

Interesting article, thanks for posting it.

Becca

Doctors are often not expert in recommending diets. Doctors also
often follow your lead. If you suggest you WANT to eat those kinds of
foods, they will often tell you it is OK, since they often do not like
to challenge their patients. The consensus is that you probably
shouldn't be eating fatty meats. The meat industry is probably not so
unadulterated either, since there are growth hormones, pesticides,
insecticides, antibiotics and who knows what in meat. The higher you
get up on the food chain, the more contaminents. If I really wanted to
eat natural, I'd eat organic vegetarian foods. Still, you do see
people who eat all kinds of high fat meats and live to a ripe old age.
You also see lots of people who smoke all their lives and don't get
lung cancer or heart trouble as well. I would go with the statistics
though and stats don't support eating a lot of high fat, especially
animal fat. dkw

I don't think there are statistics supporting your conclusions on fat.
Consensus is not statistical support, too often it is brainwashing.

wrote:
||
| Doctors are often not expert in recommending diets. Doctors also
| often follow your lead. If you suggest you WANT to eat those kinds of
| foods, they will often tell you it is OK, since they often do not like
| to challenge their patients. The consensus is that you probably
| shouldn't be eating fatty meats. The meat industry is probably not so
| unadulterated either, since there are growth hormones, pesticides,
| insecticides, antibiotics and who knows what in meat. The higher you
| get up on the food chain, the more contaminents. If I really wanted to
| eat natural, I'd eat organic vegetarian foods. Still, you do see
| people who eat all kinds of high fat meats and live to a ripe old age.
| You also see lots of people who smoke all their lives and don't get
| lung cancer or heart trouble as well. I would go with the statistics
| though and stats don't support eating a lot of high fat, especially
| animal fat. dkw

On Apr 4, 1:37*pm, "FOB" wrote:
I don't think there are statistics supporting your conclusions on fat.
Consensus is not statistical support, too often it is brainwashing.

wrote:

||
| *Doctors are often not expert in recommending diets. Doctors also
| often follow your lead. If you suggest you WANT to eat those kinds of
| foods, they will often tell you it is OK, since they often do not like
| to challenge their patients. The consensus is that you probably
| shouldn't be eating fatty meats. The meat industry is probably not so
| unadulterated either, since there are growth hormones, pesticides,
| insecticides, antibiotics and who knows what in meat. The higher you
| get up on the food chain, the more contaminents. If I really wanted to
| eat natural, I'd eat organic vegetarian foods. Still, you do see
| people who eat all kinds of high fat meats and live to a ripe old age.
| You also see lots of people who smoke all their lives and don't get
| lung cancer or heart trouble as well. I would go with the statistics
| though and stats don't support eating a lot of high fat, especially
| animal fat. dkw

It seems pretty clear to me from the literature that elevated
cholesterol and triglycerides are implicated in heart problems. This
has been known for a long time now. I don't think it is a myth. Since
there is no need to eat fatty meat in the first place, why not just
substitute it for something that isn't implicated in heart problems. I
contend that people eat it because they like the meat....then try and
justify that diet. In other words, they are only fooling themselves by
listening only to what they want to hear. You could make the same
argument for smoking and not wearing a seat belt, but statistically
those too make it more likely there will be a bad result. Perhaps some
people would not mind eating lots of fat, or even being fat themselves
because it is easier and more fun to do that and they might rather be
happy and perhaps die a year or two earlier. That would be a good
argument, but to deny there is a scientific relationship between a
high-cholesterol, high-triglyceride diet and heart disease would be
the myth. dkw

Implicated by the drug companies who want to see you cholesterol lowering
drugs. Go read Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes.

wrote:
| It seems pretty clear to me from the literature that elevated
| cholesterol and triglycerides are implicated in heart problems. This
| has been known for a long time now. I don't think it is a myth. Since
| there is no need to eat fatty meat in the first place, why not just
| substitute it for something that isn't implicated in heart problems. I
| contend that people eat it because they like the meat....then try and
| justify that diet. In other words, they are only fooling themselves by
| listening only to what they want to hear. You could make the same
| argument for smoking and not wearing a seat belt, but statistically
| those too make it more likely there will be a bad result. Perhaps some
| people would not mind eating lots of fat, or even being fat themselves
| because it is easier and more fun to do that and they might rather be
| happy and perhaps die a year or two earlier. That would be a good
| argument, but to deny there is a scientific relationship between a
| high-cholesterol, high-triglyceride diet and heart disease would be
| the myth. dkw