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Old September 9th, 2004, 05:30 AM
Mack©®
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Default Clinton nearly died from Atkins-style South Beach Diet

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 19:07:37 -0500, "MaryL"
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"Cheri" wrote in message
...
Clinton has a family history of heart disease and had been on and off
drugs to lower his blood pressure and cholesterol. He attributed his
recent weight loss to the low-carb, high-protein South Beach diet, but
the experts say it probably did not contribute to his heart disease.

We know from autopsy studies that the buildup that causes heart attacks
can start as early as the late teens and 20s," Gardner says. "By the
time President Clinton lost the 20 pounds earlier this year, his
coronary artery blockages were already well established."

"While the plaque buildup that triggers heart attacks can take decades,
National Heart Lung and Blood Institute cardiologist George Sopko tells
WebMD that arterial blockage can progress from moderate to severe over a
short period of time.

"When you get to 80% or 90% blockage, that is when something small like
minimal exercise or psychological stress can trigger an imbalance
between blood demand and supply," he says. "That is the critical point
where many people begin to have symptoms."

No More Cheeseburgers

The experts agreed that Clinton and most patients who have had heart
surgery can live long and healthy lives as long as they follow their
doctors' advice. Clinton will undoubtedly be told to avoid high-fat junk
food and to resume his regular exercise program when he is able. He will
also be advised to take medications for his heart, which may include
low-dose aspirin, a cholesterol-lowering statin, a beta-blocker, and an
ACE inhibitor.


--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.



In my opinion, the title of this thread is misleading. I doubt seriously if
Clinton's recent change to South Beach contributed to his health problems
(although I admit that I am also basically following SB -- which is really
quite different from Atkins, with SB's emphasis on "good carbs" and low-fat
meats, and I have additionally virtually eliminated bread, pasta, rice, and
white potatoes). Ironically, the article you quoted also says that SB
probably did not contribute to Clinton's heart disease, so it is only the
title that I disagree with. Note this quotation that you quoted within this
article: "By the time President Clinton lost the 20 pounds earlier this
year, his coronary artery blockages were already well established."

MaryL



go back and check when you first saw the post you will see it was
originally crossposted by the quack cardiologist and known usenet
troll and kook chung aka mudungchung.

Cheri was pointing out facts. mudungchung was trolling again.

Māck©®
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org

In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."

....Theodore Roosevelt

Have you heard of the NO-CARB Diet for 2004?

NO C-heney
NO A-shcroft
NO R-umsfeld
NO B-ush
And Absolutely NO Rice!
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Old September 9th, 2004, 10:10 AM
MaryL
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"Mack©®" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 19:07:37 -0500, "MaryL"
-OUT-THE-LITTER wrote:


"Cheri" wrote in message
...
Clinton has a family history of heart disease and had been on and off
drugs to lower his blood pressure and cholesterol. He attributed his
recent weight loss to the low-carb, high-protein South Beach diet, but
the experts say it probably did not contribute to his heart disease.

We know from autopsy studies that the buildup that causes heart attacks
can start as early as the late teens and 20s," Gardner says. "By the
time President Clinton lost the 20 pounds earlier this year, his
coronary artery blockages were already well established."

"While the plaque buildup that triggers heart attacks can take decades,
National Heart Lung and Blood Institute cardiologist George Sopko tells
WebMD that arterial blockage can progress from moderate to severe over

a
short period of time.

"When you get to 80% or 90% blockage, that is when something small like
minimal exercise or psychological stress can trigger an imbalance
between blood demand and supply," he says. "That is the critical point
where many people begin to have symptoms."

No More Cheeseburgers

The experts agreed that Clinton and most patients who have had heart
surgery can live long and healthy lives as long as they follow their
doctors' advice. Clinton will undoubtedly be told to avoid high-fat

junk
food and to resume his regular exercise program when he is able. He

will
also be advised to take medications for his heart, which may include
low-dose aspirin, a cholesterol-lowering statin, a beta-blocker, and an
ACE inhibitor.


--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.



In my opinion, the title of this thread is misleading. I doubt seriously

if
Clinton's recent change to South Beach contributed to his health problems
(although I admit that I am also basically following SB -- which is

really
quite different from Atkins, with SB's emphasis on "good carbs" and

low-fat
meats, and I have additionally virtually eliminated bread, pasta, rice,

and
white potatoes). Ironically, the article you quoted also says that SB
probably did not contribute to Clinton's heart disease, so it is only the
title that I disagree with. Note this quotation that you quoted within

this
article: "By the time President Clinton lost the 20 pounds earlier this
year, his coronary artery blockages were already well established."

MaryL



go back and check when you first saw the post you will see it was
originally crossposted by the quack cardiologist and known usenet
troll and kook chung aka mudungchung.

Cheri was pointing out facts. mudungchung was trolling again.

Māck©®
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org




Ah, now I see what happened...and this shows one of the disadvantages of
killfiling (at least in this instance). I had killfiled Chung, so I didn't
see his post. Then I saw Cheri's post and didn't realize that she was
sending a response to him. I was puzzled as to why the title didn't seem to
fit the information given, and this explains it. My reader includes markers
like this when I reply to a message, but Cheri's did not -- so I didn't
pick up on the circumstances. Thanks for pointing this out.

MaryL


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Old September 9th, 2004, 10:10 AM
MaryL
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"Mack©®" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 19:07:37 -0500, "MaryL"
-OUT-THE-LITTER wrote:


"Cheri" wrote in message
...
Clinton has a family history of heart disease and had been on and off
drugs to lower his blood pressure and cholesterol. He attributed his
recent weight loss to the low-carb, high-protein South Beach diet, but
the experts say it probably did not contribute to his heart disease.

We know from autopsy studies that the buildup that causes heart attacks
can start as early as the late teens and 20s," Gardner says. "By the
time President Clinton lost the 20 pounds earlier this year, his
coronary artery blockages were already well established."

"While the plaque buildup that triggers heart attacks can take decades,
National Heart Lung and Blood Institute cardiologist George Sopko tells
WebMD that arterial blockage can progress from moderate to severe over

a
short period of time.

"When you get to 80% or 90% blockage, that is when something small like
minimal exercise or psychological stress can trigger an imbalance
between blood demand and supply," he says. "That is the critical point
where many people begin to have symptoms."

No More Cheeseburgers

The experts agreed that Clinton and most patients who have had heart
surgery can live long and healthy lives as long as they follow their
doctors' advice. Clinton will undoubtedly be told to avoid high-fat

junk
food and to resume his regular exercise program when he is able. He

will
also be advised to take medications for his heart, which may include
low-dose aspirin, a cholesterol-lowering statin, a beta-blocker, and an
ACE inhibitor.


--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.



In my opinion, the title of this thread is misleading. I doubt seriously

if
Clinton's recent change to South Beach contributed to his health problems
(although I admit that I am also basically following SB -- which is

really
quite different from Atkins, with SB's emphasis on "good carbs" and

low-fat
meats, and I have additionally virtually eliminated bread, pasta, rice,

and
white potatoes). Ironically, the article you quoted also says that SB
probably did not contribute to Clinton's heart disease, so it is only the
title that I disagree with. Note this quotation that you quoted within

this
article: "By the time President Clinton lost the 20 pounds earlier this
year, his coronary artery blockages were already well established."

MaryL



go back and check when you first saw the post you will see it was
originally crossposted by the quack cardiologist and known usenet
troll and kook chung aka mudungchung.

Cheri was pointing out facts. mudungchung was trolling again.

Māck©®
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org




Ah, now I see what happened...and this shows one of the disadvantages of
killfiling (at least in this instance). I had killfiled Chung, so I didn't
see his post. Then I saw Cheri's post and didn't realize that she was
sending a response to him. I was puzzled as to why the title didn't seem to
fit the information given, and this explains it. My reader includes markers
like this when I reply to a message, but Cheri's did not -- so I didn't
pick up on the circumstances. Thanks for pointing this out.

MaryL


 




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