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Ilene Bilenky wrote: In article , Chris Braun wrote: But I would start the same day eating and exercising as I do now with hope that I would eventually achieve the same result. A co-worker of mine had a highest weight around 300 lbs. She got gastric bypass surgery 1 1/2 years ago, and reportedly went from about 275 to 175. I just saw her after a long time, and she looked well. I asked her how it felt to be a health(ier) weight, after stuggling for so many years with weight and food, etc. She said she's been "eating too much" and fears gaining it back. She said kind of sadly that she likes being able to breathe better, but that she feels she's eating in the same mindset that got her fat, but just can't do it as fast or as much. I think she might gain it back if she can't get her mindset in healthy order. A co-worker of mine had weight loss surgery about 15 years ago. She managed to go from 275 to 120 but never learned to change her eating habits. Immediately after the surgery she ate a decent diet but gradually she went back to her old style of eating. She was popping M&M's, sipping on shakes, etc. She never exercised before or after the surgery. I saw her about a year ago and I would estimate her weight is in the 275-300 range again. |
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Beverly wrote:
Ilene Bilenky wrote: In article , Chris Braun wrote: But I would start the same day eating and exercising as I do now with hope that I would eventually achieve the same result. A co-worker of mine had a highest weight around 300 lbs. She got gastric bypass surgery 1 1/2 years ago, and reportedly went from about 275 to 175. I just saw her after a long time, and she looked well. I asked her how it felt to be a health(ier) weight, after stuggling for so many years with weight and food, etc. She said she's been "eating too much" and fears gaining it back. She said kind of sadly that she likes being able to breathe better, but that she feels she's eating in the same mindset that got her fat, but just can't do it as fast or as much. I think she might gain it back if she can't get her mindset in healthy order. A co-worker of mine had weight loss surgery about 15 years ago. She managed to go from 275 to 120 but never learned to change her eating habits. Immediately after the surgery she ate a decent diet but gradually she went back to her old style of eating. She was popping M&M's, sipping on shakes, etc. She never exercised before or after the surgery. I saw her about a year ago and I would estimate her weight is in the 275-300 range again. How sad. -- jmk in NC |
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:18:13 -0400, jmk wrote:
Beverly wrote: Ilene Bilenky wrote: In article , Chris Braun wrote: But I would start the same day eating and exercising as I do now with hope that I would eventually achieve the same result. A co-worker of mine had a highest weight around 300 lbs. She got gastric bypass surgery 1 1/2 years ago, and reportedly went from about 275 to 175. I just saw her after a long time, and she looked well. I asked her how it felt to be a health(ier) weight, after stuggling for so many years with weight and food, etc. She said she's been "eating too much" and fears gaining it back. She said kind of sadly that she likes being able to breathe better, but that she feels she's eating in the same mindset that got her fat, but just can't do it as fast or as much. I think she might gain it back if she can't get her mindset in healthy order. A co-worker of mine had weight loss surgery about 15 years ago. She managed to go from 275 to 120 but never learned to change her eating habits. Immediately after the surgery she ate a decent diet but gradually she went back to her old style of eating. She was popping M&M's, sipping on shakes, etc. She never exercised before or after the surgery. I saw her about a year ago and I would estimate her weight is in the 275-300 range again. How sad. Yeah, it really is. Imagine going through all that, and subjecting your body to all that trauma, and then gaining it back. I expect that's a lot harder on your body than just staying heavy would have been. Chris 262/130s/130s started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 |
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"Chris Braun" wrote in message ... On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:18:13 -0400, jmk wrote: Beverly wrote: Ilene Bilenky wrote: In article , Chris Braun wrote: But I would start the same day eating and exercising as I do now with hope that I would eventually achieve the same result. A co-worker of mine had a highest weight around 300 lbs. She got gastric bypass surgery 1 1/2 years ago, and reportedly went from about 275 to 175. I just saw her after a long time, and she looked well. I asked her how it felt to be a health(ier) weight, after stuggling for so many years with weight and food, etc. She said she's been "eating too much" and fears gaining it back. She said kind of sadly that she likes being able to breathe better, but that she feels she's eating in the same mindset that got her fat, but just can't do it as fast or as much. I think she might gain it back if she can't get her mindset in healthy order. A co-worker of mine had weight loss surgery about 15 years ago. She managed to go from 275 to 120 but never learned to change her eating habits. Immediately after the surgery she ate a decent diet but gradually she went back to her old style of eating. She was popping M&M's, sipping on shakes, etc. She never exercised before or after the surgery. I saw her about a year ago and I would estimate her weight is in the 275-300 range again. How sad. Yeah, it really is. Imagine going through all that, and subjecting your body to all that trauma, and then gaining it back. I expect that's a lot harder on your body than just staying heavy would have been. That is a lot for the body to go through. IIRC, Christina Onassis died rather young primarily from complications of her tremendous weight swings through her adult life. -- the volleyballchick |
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I would go with a monthly weighin. I hear doing it daily or even
weekly can cause people to get discouraged by the fluctuation or of weight loss bottoms out for a little. |
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"Nunya B." wrote: "Ignoramus23305" wrote in message ... On 16 Aug 2005 14:48:04 -0700, Doug Freyburger wrote: Ignoramus23305 wrote: I would rather be "anal" (as Annie put it) and "frustrated" (due to setting ambitious goals) than fat. You say that as if they are mutually exclusive as in one can only be anal *or* fat. One can be anal without being condescending. One can also be anal and plump, anal and fat, anal and a decent human being. Take your choice. The way I really think of it now, "anal" is an easier to spell version of the word "conscientious", at least in regards to my new WOE. Of course, the a word sounds much more negative than the c word. It makes much more sense to say to oneself "I don't want to weigh my food because that's so anal!" than to use the word conscientious in that sentence. I do know that when tell my coworkers that I am weighing out my food, they give me looks that suggest they are thinking in terms of the more negative word. And yeah, whether one is anal or conscientious, really has no bearing no how nice of a person they might be. -- Annie As of 8-19-05: 258/213.5/140 Standing at 5 foot 4. ..5 pound loss from 8-12-05. 44.5 pounds lost. 73.5 left to go. Started February/07/05 Come visit my weight-loss web site, Annie Takes Off. http://webpages.charter.net/lenny13/DietFrontPage.html |
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"Annie Benson Lennaman" wrote in message . .. "Nunya B." wrote: "Ignoramus23305" wrote in message ... On 16 Aug 2005 14:48:04 -0700, Doug Freyburger wrote: Ignoramus23305 wrote: I would rather be "anal" (as Annie put it) and "frustrated" (due to setting ambitious goals) than fat. You say that as if they are mutually exclusive as in one can only be anal *or* fat. One can be anal without being condescending. One can also be anal and plump, anal and fat, anal and a decent human being. Take your choice. The way I really think of it now, "anal" is an easier to spell version of the word "conscientious", at least in regards to my new WOE. Of course, the a word sounds much more negative than the c word. It makes much more sense to say to oneself "I don't want to weigh my food because that's so anal!" than to use the word conscientious in that sentence. I do know that when tell my coworkers that I am weighing out my food, they give me looks that suggest they are thinking in terms of the more negative word. And yeah, whether one is anal or conscientious, really has no bearing no how nice of a person they might be. I weigh my food. I also keep a food journal. I think a person can be conscientious without being anal. They're really not the same thing. Also, a person who is not anal is not necessarily a completely disorganized slob. http://www.answers.com/conscientious characterized by extreme care and great effort http://www.answers.com/anal%20retentive A person characterized as anal retentive is perceived to be worrying too much about "nit-picking" little details of form, style and etiquette or otherwise being overly uptight or distressed over ordinarily minor problems. I believe that I've been able to snip without changing the context of the information. There is nothing wrong with being anal retentive for most people. It's when they attempt to belittle others who don't fit into their tiny little view of what is right and wrong in the world that it becomes a problem for others. Simply put, be as neurotic as it takes to make you happy, just keep it on your side of the fence. (not you personally, Annie, it's the general "you"). -- the volleyballchick has many wonderful anal retentive friends |
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"Ignoramus15893" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:51:52 -0500, Annie Benson Lennaman wrote: "Nunya B." wrote: "Ignoramus23305" wrote in message ... On 16 Aug 2005 14:48:04 -0700, Doug Freyburger wrote: Ignoramus23305 wrote: I would rather be "anal" (as Annie put it) and "frustrated" (due to setting ambitious goals) than fat. You say that as if they are mutually exclusive as in one can only be anal *or* fat. One can be anal without being condescending. One can also be anal and plump, anal and fat, anal and a decent human being. Take your choice. The way I really think of it now, "anal" is an easier to spell version of the word "conscientious", at least in regards to my new WOE. Of course, the a word sounds much more negative than the c word. It makes much more sense to say to oneself "I don't want to weigh my food because that's so anal!" than to use the word conscientious in that sentence. I do know that when tell my coworkers that I am weighing out my food, they give me looks that suggest they are thinking in terms of the more negative word. And yeah, whether one is anal or conscientious, really has no bearing no how nice of a person they might be. I like to express behaviors in less pleasing terms, because this way there is no implicit approval of them through language. That makes for less decision making biases. Deborah Tannen wrote several popular books explaining how use of certain words and expressions and manner of speaking influences human perception. Very interesting reading. If you are going to do that, you need to make sure the words you use are actually words that can be interchanged. The english language is full of subtle nuance that simply because of the perceptions of which you describe are very easily misinterpreted. If you want the world to think you're an abrasive asshole, then so be it. If you want your message to be taken seriously then you need to use language that isn't going to turn off your audience by the end of the first sentence. Your message is useless if the audience isn't getting it. -- the volleyballchick |
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Annie,
I saw your stats down the bottom - congratulations! Very impressive. Without reading all the posts in here, how exactly did you do it? I have tried Weight Watchers and I starved. It was helpful though because I became more conscious of what I ate. But I couldn't handle it for more than a few weeks. I recently have been using Isagenix (i think I linked it correctly). You do really lose weight fast, but you hav eto be committed to the program. They suggest using it 9 days EVERY month. I guess to lose weight, avoid burnout, and then keep it going every month thereafter. I'm only about 10lbs down on it so far (day 6), but will let you kow. Or if you've used it before please let me know your experience. Cindy "Annie Benson Lennaman" wrote in message . .. "Nunya B." wrote: "Ignoramus23305" wrote in message ... On 16 Aug 2005 14:48:04 -0700, Doug Freyburger wrote: Ignoramus23305 wrote: I would rather be "anal" (as Annie put it) and "frustrated" (due to setting ambitious goals) than fat. You say that as if they are mutually exclusive as in one can only be anal *or* fat. One can be anal without being condescending. One can also be anal and plump, anal and fat, anal and a decent human being. Take your choice. The way I really think of it now, "anal" is an easier to spell version of the word "conscientious", at least in regards to my new WOE. Of course, the a word sounds much more negative than the c word. It makes much more sense to say to oneself "I don't want to weigh my food because that's so anal!" than to use the word conscientious in that sentence. I do know that when tell my coworkers that I am weighing out my food, they give me looks that suggest they are thinking in terms of the more negative word. And yeah, whether one is anal or conscientious, really has no bearing no how nice of a person they might be. -- Annie As of 8-19-05: 258/213.5/140 Standing at 5 foot 4. .5 pound loss from 8-12-05. 44.5 pounds lost. 73.5 left to go. Started February/07/05 Come visit my weight-loss web site, Annie Takes Off. http://webpages.charter.net/lenny13/DietFrontPage.html |
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Cindy Worskendt wrote:
Annie, I saw your stats down the bottom - congratulations! Very impressive. Without reading all the posts in here, how exactly did you do it? I have tried Weight Watchers and I starved. It was helpful though because I became more conscious of what I ate. But I couldn't handle it for more than a few weeks. I recently have been using Isagenix http://discounts.isagenix.com (i think I linked it correctly). You do really lose weight fast, but you hav eto be committed to the program. They suggest using it 9 days EVERY month. I guess to lose weight, avoid burnout, and then keep it going every month thereafter. I'm only about 10lbs down on it so far (day 6), but will let you kow. Or if you've used it before please let me know your experience. Cindy You don't need overpriced scams. The only thing that'll lighten is your wallet. It will make you unhealthy, not healthy. Buying Isagenix just marks you as a patsy for all sorts of frauds. Beware! Dally 244/164/155 |
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