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Old September 2nd, 2004, 03:39 AM
John E
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Hi Folks,

It appears that low carbing can elevate the iron level.

What are the consequences of having high iron?

What can you do to reduce the iron level due to low carbing?

What are the symptoms when someone is high in iron?

Does working out reduce iron level?

Thanks,

J



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Old September 2nd, 2004, 04:12 AM
Aramanth Dawe
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On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 02:39:44 GMT, "John E"
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Hi Folks,

It appears that low carbing can elevate the iron level.


***IF*** you eat a LOT of red meat, yes you can have an elevated iron
level.

What are the consequences of having high iron?


There is a possibility of increased cancer risk, according to some
studies. It can also lead to increased tissue damage (heart damage,
arthritis) if the excess iron levels are LONG TERM (30 - 50 years) an
issue according to those who deal with the hereditary condition
haemochromatosis where chronically high iron levels are an issue.

What can you do to reduce the iron level due to low carbing?


Eat less red meat. Chicken, turkey, duck, eggs, nuts, non-meat
protein sources are all part of the LC experience. Eat lots of
veggies and if you're concerned about iron levels don't eat huge slabs
of red meat at every meal.

Also, consider becoming a blood donor. This is a standard treatment
for those who have inherited haemochromatosis and it works quite well
- not to mention the social benefits.

BTW - learn to use Google (www.google.com) or another search engine.
A few moments with Google and I could find all the answers to your
questions - so I'm sure YOU could have found them, too.

Aramanth
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Old September 2nd, 2004, 04:12 AM
Aramanth Dawe
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On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 02:39:44 GMT, "John E"
wrote:

Hi Folks,

It appears that low carbing can elevate the iron level.


***IF*** you eat a LOT of red meat, yes you can have an elevated iron
level.

What are the consequences of having high iron?


There is a possibility of increased cancer risk, according to some
studies. It can also lead to increased tissue damage (heart damage,
arthritis) if the excess iron levels are LONG TERM (30 - 50 years) an
issue according to those who deal with the hereditary condition
haemochromatosis where chronically high iron levels are an issue.

What can you do to reduce the iron level due to low carbing?


Eat less red meat. Chicken, turkey, duck, eggs, nuts, non-meat
protein sources are all part of the LC experience. Eat lots of
veggies and if you're concerned about iron levels don't eat huge slabs
of red meat at every meal.

Also, consider becoming a blood donor. This is a standard treatment
for those who have inherited haemochromatosis and it works quite well
- not to mention the social benefits.

BTW - learn to use Google (www.google.com) or another search engine.
A few moments with Google and I could find all the answers to your
questions - so I'm sure YOU could have found them, too.

Aramanth
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Old September 2nd, 2004, 04:51 AM
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Iron is a good thing. Vegetarians are often anemic from having a lack of iron,
which means fatigue, shortness of breath, and chest pain. It also leads to
slower hair / nail growth... and also pica, a condition where humans have the
urge to eat non-edible things, namely dirt and mud. (Hee, Yahoo! it if you
don't believe me : )

I wasn't sure about HIGH iron, so I looked it up. Here's what I found:

There are some instances in which a high iron diet can be harmful. For example,
those suffering from hemochromatosis need to avoid iron rich foods.
Hemochromatosis is a common hereditary disorder where the body loses its
ability to regulate the amount of iron that is absorbed and stored. Without a
regulatory process, dangerously large amounts of iron can build up. This can
lead to severe damage to the liver, heart, and pancreas.

Chronic liver disease, from many causes, can result in excessive amounts of
iron being stored in the liver. In some instances, this actually aggravates the
damage to the liver. In the treatment of chronic hepatitis C, for example, it
is now known that reducing iron stores by removal of blood actually improves
treatment.

Jen
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Old September 2nd, 2004, 04:51 AM
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Iron is a good thing. Vegetarians are often anemic from having a lack of iron,
which means fatigue, shortness of breath, and chest pain. It also leads to
slower hair / nail growth... and also pica, a condition where humans have the
urge to eat non-edible things, namely dirt and mud. (Hee, Yahoo! it if you
don't believe me : )

I wasn't sure about HIGH iron, so I looked it up. Here's what I found:

There are some instances in which a high iron diet can be harmful. For example,
those suffering from hemochromatosis need to avoid iron rich foods.
Hemochromatosis is a common hereditary disorder where the body loses its
ability to regulate the amount of iron that is absorbed and stored. Without a
regulatory process, dangerously large amounts of iron can build up. This can
lead to severe damage to the liver, heart, and pancreas.

Chronic liver disease, from many causes, can result in excessive amounts of
iron being stored in the liver. In some instances, this actually aggravates the
damage to the liver. In the treatment of chronic hepatitis C, for example, it
is now known that reducing iron stores by removal of blood actually improves
treatment.

Jen
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Old September 2nd, 2004, 05:28 AM
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Cinnamn112 wrote:

I wasn't sure about HIGH iron, so I looked it up.


looking things up: what a concept.
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Old September 2nd, 2004, 05:28 AM
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Cinnamn112 wrote:

I wasn't sure about HIGH iron, so I looked it up.


looking things up: what a concept.
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Old September 2nd, 2004, 12:03 PM
Roger Zoul
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John E wrote:
|| Hi Folks,
||
|| It appears that low carbing can elevate the iron level.

Where did you get this information?

||
|| What are the consequences of having high iron?
||
|| What can you do to reduce the iron level due to low carbing?
||
|| What are the symptoms when someone is high in iron?
||
|| Does working out reduce iron level?
||
|| Thanks,
||
|| J


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Old September 3rd, 2004, 03:35 AM
J. David Anderson
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John E wrote:

Hi Folks,

It appears that low carbing can elevate the iron level.

What are the consequences of having high iron?

What can you do to reduce the iron level due to low carbing?

What are the symptoms when someone is high in iron?

Does working out reduce iron level?

Thanks,

J


Low carbing doesn't elevate iron levels at all.

The reason this is touted is that *some* people who low carb, compensate
for the carbs in their diet with red meat, or other foods that are
higher in iron concentrations.

Low carbing has way too many connotations, ranging from Atkin's ketosis
inducing extreme low carb, to simply reducing unnecessary carbs, and all
permutations in between. The reports of increased iron are generated
from tests of those who try to eliminate almost all carbs and end up
with a high iron diet. Red meats have a higher iron content than fish,
and as all low carbers don't necessarily eat nothing but red meat, not
all are at risk over raising their iron level to a dangerous state. In
many cases, low carbing can reduce iron levels, if cereals are removed
from the diet and more fish is added.

If you check the FDA food values, or FitDay, you will find that 100
grams of canned fish has an average of 7% of the daily requirement for
iron, whereas a 100 grams of beef steak has 14%, about double. Cereals
such as Oats, or Cornflake have more than a 300% of the RDA. Draw your
own conclusions.

Regardless of the reasons why iron might be elevated, and there are
many, reducing iron levels is simple. Donate blood on a regular basis.

But have a lab test beforehand to ascertain that you do have high iron
levels. Even so, donating blood isn't a bad thing.


Regards

David
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Old September 3rd, 2004, 03:35 AM
J. David Anderson
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John E wrote:

Hi Folks,

It appears that low carbing can elevate the iron level.

What are the consequences of having high iron?

What can you do to reduce the iron level due to low carbing?

What are the symptoms when someone is high in iron?

Does working out reduce iron level?

Thanks,

J


Low carbing doesn't elevate iron levels at all.

The reason this is touted is that *some* people who low carb, compensate
for the carbs in their diet with red meat, or other foods that are
higher in iron concentrations.

Low carbing has way too many connotations, ranging from Atkin's ketosis
inducing extreme low carb, to simply reducing unnecessary carbs, and all
permutations in between. The reports of increased iron are generated
from tests of those who try to eliminate almost all carbs and end up
with a high iron diet. Red meats have a higher iron content than fish,
and as all low carbers don't necessarily eat nothing but red meat, not
all are at risk over raising their iron level to a dangerous state. In
many cases, low carbing can reduce iron levels, if cereals are removed
from the diet and more fish is added.

If you check the FDA food values, or FitDay, you will find that 100
grams of canned fish has an average of 7% of the daily requirement for
iron, whereas a 100 grams of beef steak has 14%, about double. Cereals
such as Oats, or Cornflake have more than a 300% of the RDA. Draw your
own conclusions.

Regardless of the reasons why iron might be elevated, and there are
many, reducing iron levels is simple. Donate blood on a regular basis.

But have a lab test beforehand to ascertain that you do have high iron
levels. Even so, donating blood isn't a bad thing.


Regards

David
 




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