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Old November 18th, 2005, 02:54 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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"Patrick@home" wrote in message
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wow, thanks so much!

this is really insightful.

Yes I'm in Australia, started this a few weeks ago, I would be interested
to know how your friend went, and if she ever wandered off. You would know
how insanely strict it is, it is virtually impossible to eat anything
other than what you have prepared yourself.

Did your friend keep off her weight and do you know how much she lost in
what time? sorry about the questions, it's just that they kind of keep you
away from others on the diet, don't like you talking for some reason,
maybe because you will compare your "exclusive" eating plan and realise it
is identical!

Anyway as you can see, it's working I'll see how I am tracking after my
second months weigh in!

cryss

hi again cryss

i cant give you really good details cos i cant remember them perfectly,
however, i know she lost about 15 kgs in 4-5 months. an insanely fast amount
of weight i think. but it worked for her. when you reach maintenance they
phased in the foods you dont have, namely the carbohydrates. she didnt keep
the weight off unfortunately, but that doesnt mean you wont i think what
you can learn from my friend, is that restricting ur calories WILL make you
lose weight. its pure maths. but as soon as you increase the calories, IE go
off cohens, then the weight can add back on. Addressing why you overeat is
crucial for longterm loss. good luck tho. whatever works. way i figure it.
if cohens works for you to get to a lower limit, so you can then easily run
more, be mroe active, and burn more calories easily, then its a huge
success. but one thing i know. going off the diet is where many come
unstuck. so i dunno.. kinda prepare yourself that monitoring is for life. i
wonder why they dont want you to talk to the others. that would do my head
in, i would HAVE to talk to the others to find out why they dont want me to.
plus. the rules .. lol.. i would struggle there. I'd say ta hell with you
buddy, lol. i dont think its exclusively ur individual plan. i think its
just low carb eating. but GREAT loss so far. keep up the good work!! oh and
the way you say its insanely strict. areyou ok with that. cos if it was me.
i would rebel against that. how do you cope with that?

t




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Old November 19th, 2005, 02:48 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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hey t,

insanely strict is true, so I give myself a day or two a month off, I don't
g crazy, but I might have a slice of taost with my egg in the morning, and I
won't weigh anything, so I might end up having the right foods just a little
more of them. I figure if I go from losing 11.6kg a month to 8kgs I can live
with that as long as I'm not going backweards and I'm not going crazy on my
"days off". I figure if I don't do something like giving myself a break I'll
resent the plan and just give up. Althouigh I have to say on the few times I
have allowed myself 'normal' foods, I have felt pretty sick afterwards,
and bread makes me so tired, so if anything I think my body might be
starting to appreciate the simplicity of the way I am eating now.

I'm going to build up my exercise levels as I get lighter, god knows I have
these tiny little ankles a wrists that can't move this big bulk around. Once
it's easier to do that I'll be more motivated to move around.

sorry to hear your friend put it back on, I have yo yo'd so many time, this
was either do or die, and I mean that literally, I would have had a heart
attack or something. I'd like to live a little longer than 35!

c
"tracey" neil4tracey@hotmaildotcom wrote in message
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"Patrick@home" wrote in message
...
wow, thanks so much!

this is really insightful.

Yes I'm in Australia, started this a few weeks ago, I would be interested
to know how your friend went, and if she ever wandered off. You would
know how insanely strict it is, it is virtually impossible to eat
anything other than what you have prepared yourself.

Did your friend keep off her weight and do you know how much she lost in
what time? sorry about the questions, it's just that they kind of keep
you away from others on the diet, don't like you talking for some reason,
maybe because you will compare your "exclusive" eating plan and realise
it is identical!

Anyway as you can see, it's working I'll see how I am tracking after my
second months weigh in!

cryss

hi again cryss

i cant give you really good details cos i cant remember them perfectly,
however, i know she lost about 15 kgs in 4-5 months. an insanely fast
amount of weight i think. but it worked for her. when you reach
maintenance they phased in the foods you dont have, namely the
carbohydrates. she didnt keep the weight off unfortunately, but that
doesnt mean you wont i think what you can learn from my friend, is that
restricting ur calories WILL make you lose weight. its pure maths. but as
soon as you increase the calories, IE go off cohens, then the weight can
add back on. Addressing why you overeat is crucial for longterm loss. good
luck tho. whatever works. way i figure it. if cohens works for you to get
to a lower limit, so you can then easily run more, be mroe active, and
burn more calories easily, then its a huge success. but one thing i know.
going off the diet is where many come unstuck. so i dunno.. kinda prepare
yourself that monitoring is for life. i wonder why they dont want you to
talk to the others. that would do my head in, i would HAVE to talk to the
others to find out why they dont want me to. plus. the rules .. lol.. i
would struggle there. I'd say ta hell with you buddy, lol. i dont think
its exclusively ur individual plan. i think its just low carb eating. but
GREAT loss so far. keep up the good work!! oh and the way you say its
insanely strict. areyou ok with that. cos if it was me. i would rebel
against that. how do you cope with that?

t






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Old November 19th, 2005, 03:15 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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"Patrick@home" wrote in message
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hey t,

insanely strict is true, so I give myself a day or two a month off, I
don't g crazy, but I might have a slice of taost with my egg in the
morning, and I won't weigh anything, so I might end up having the right
foods just a little more of them. I figure if I go from losing 11.6kg a
month to 8kgs I can live with that as long as I'm not going backweards and
I'm not going crazy on my "days off". I figure if I don't do something
like giving myself a break I'll resent the plan and just give up.
Althouigh I have to say on the few times I have allowed myself 'normal'
foods, I have felt pretty sick afterwards, and bread makes me so tired, so
if anything I think my body might be starting to appreciate the simplicity
of the way I am eating now.

I'm going to build up my exercise levels as I get lighter, god knows I
have these tiny little ankles a wrists that can't move this big bulk
around. Once it's easier to do that I'll be more motivated to move around.

sorry to hear your friend put it back on, I have yo yo'd so many time,
this was either do or die, and I mean that literally, I would have had a
heart attack or something. I'd like to live a little longer than 35!

hiya C.

i agree, losing 8 a month is a sensational amount to lose. but even more so,
the weight loss is gonna enable you to exercise more. what a benefit. so you
have no bread at all? wow, what determinatino you have. i would struggle big
time with that.

my friend didnt put it all back on. but at least half of it i would imagine.
then she got pregnant which makes it harder too. I am 38, i remember when i
was 35 saying a similiar thing myself. getting older sure does bring things
into context dont they.

i am in perth, where are you?

t




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Old November 19th, 2005, 09:16 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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Hi t,

I'm in Melbourne.

I want to be able to have children, but I'm now worried I'll take all this
weight off, have the body I've always wanted and then ruin all that hardwork
with a baby!

this is a real dilema for me, it's quite serious, the fact that I'm thinking
about adoption or at the least cesarean delivery with a tummy tuck.

It sounds silly, but if you have struggled looking fat for so many years and
you now have the chance to be the person you are on the inside, am I really
going to go and throw it all away getting pregnant?

c

Melbourne
"tracey" neil4tracey@hotmaildotcom wrote in message
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"Patrick@home" wrote in message
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hey t,

insanely strict is true, so I give myself a day or two a month off, I
don't g crazy, but I might have a slice of taost with my egg in the
morning, and I won't weigh anything, so I might end up having the right
foods just a little more of them. I figure if I go from losing 11.6kg a
month to 8kgs I can live with that as long as I'm not going backweards
and I'm not going crazy on my "days off". I figure if I don't do
something like giving myself a break I'll resent the plan and just give
up. Althouigh I have to say on the few times I have allowed myself
'normal' foods, I have felt pretty sick afterwards, and bread makes me so
tired, so if anything I think my body might be starting to appreciate the
simplicity of the way I am eating now.

I'm going to build up my exercise levels as I get lighter, god knows I
have these tiny little ankles a wrists that can't move this big bulk
around. Once it's easier to do that I'll be more motivated to move
around.

sorry to hear your friend put it back on, I have yo yo'd so many time,
this was either do or die, and I mean that literally, I would have had a
heart attack or something. I'd like to live a little longer than 35!

hiya C.

i agree, losing 8 a month is a sensational amount to lose. but even more
so, the weight loss is gonna enable you to exercise more. what a benefit.
so you have no bread at all? wow, what determinatino you have. i would
struggle big time with that.

my friend didnt put it all back on. but at least half of it i would
imagine. then she got pregnant which makes it harder too. I am 38, i
remember when i was 35 saying a similiar thing myself. getting older sure
does bring things into context dont they.

i am in perth, where are you?

t






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Old November 19th, 2005, 10:24 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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"Patrick@home" wrote in message
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Hi t,

I'm in Melbourne.

I want to be able to have children, but I'm now worried I'll take all this
weight off, have the body I've always wanted and then ruin all that
hardwork with a baby!

this is a real dilema for me, it's quite serious, the fact that I'm
thinking about adoption or at the least cesarean delivery with a tummy
tuck.

It sounds silly, but if you have struggled looking fat for so many years
and you now have the chance to be the person you are on the inside, am I
really going to go and throw it all away getting pregnant?

Heya C

I put on nearly 20kgs with my first baby. trust me i know what you are
talking about lol. but with my second, i knew i had to limit myself. so it
was 12kgs. i didnt automatically think OMG wow. i can eat for two. you can
have babies without putting on a load of weight. you really can. of course
its just my opinion!!!! however, i would hate to think you miss out on the
joy of children, for fear of gaining weight. you can watch ur weight and be
pregnant and have perfectly healthy children. But that decision is yours
alone, or rather, sorry, you and ur partners. but know that just cos you get
pregnant, doesnt mean you throw away all the hopes of having the body or
person you really are. i had two cesearean deliveries. not sure what you
mean how it will benefit having one of them. its big decisions tahts for
sure.

t




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Old November 20th, 2005, 01:58 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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"tracey" neil4tracey@hotmaildotcom wrote in message
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"Patrick@home" wrote in message
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Hi t,

I'm in Melbourne.

I want to be able to have children, but I'm now worried I'll take all

this
weight off, have the body I've always wanted and then ruin all that
hardwork with a baby!

this is a real dilema for me, it's quite serious, the fact that I'm
thinking about adoption or at the least cesarean delivery with a tummy
tuck.

It sounds silly, but if you have struggled looking fat for so many years
and you now have the chance to be the person you are on the inside, am I
really going to go and throw it all away getting pregnant?

Heya C

I put on nearly 20kgs with my first baby. trust me i know what you are
talking about lol. but with my second, i knew i had to limit myself. so it
was 12kgs. i didnt automatically think OMG wow. i can eat for two. you can
have babies without putting on a load of weight. you really can. of course
its just my opinion!!!! however, i would hate to think you miss out on the
joy of children, for fear of gaining weight. you can watch ur weight and

be
pregnant and have perfectly healthy children. But that decision is yours
alone, or rather, sorry, you and ur partners. but know that just cos you

get
pregnant, doesnt mean you throw away all the hopes of having the body or
person you really are. i had two cesearean deliveries. not sure what you
mean how it will benefit having one of them. its big decisions tahts for
sure.

t


I agree with T about being able to have children without gaining too much
weight. I have 4 children (all grown now) and the most I gained was 25lbs.

I think you're doing the right thing by losing the weight first. Another
important thing to consider is exercise during the pregnancy. My doctor
said he thought the patients who exercised often had easier pregnancies and
deliveries. I walked everyday but had to curtail cycling when the tummy
started getting in the way

Once you've reached your goal weight and have more experience with your
healthy eating and exercise plan you may find you're not as worried about
becoming pregnant and regaining too much weight.

Beverly


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Old November 21st, 2005, 01:23 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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Thanks for the positive words Beverly.

It probably sounds strange to the men folk on the forum and would be
stranger for someone who had never been overweight.

Nut having hated being this big for so long, the thought of ruiining it all
with child birth sends fear into me.

I think I'll take one day at a time, it could take a while for me to fall
pregnant. I should stop worring really

thanks for the support.

I don't suppose anyone knows of a ketosis expert on the forum? I'm sure this
diet is supposed to work on that premise, instead they are selling me the
HGH tag line. My problem is, I can measure Ketosis easily at home, HGH can't
be measured without a blood test. (painful AND expensive)

c

"Beverly" wrote in message
...

"tracey" neil4tracey@hotmaildotcom wrote in message
...

"Patrick@home" wrote in message
...
Hi t,

I'm in Melbourne.

I want to be able to have children, but I'm now worried I'll take all

this
weight off, have the body I've always wanted and then ruin all that
hardwork with a baby!

this is a real dilema for me, it's quite serious, the fact that I'm
thinking about adoption or at the least cesarean delivery with a tummy
tuck.

It sounds silly, but if you have struggled looking fat for so many
years
and you now have the chance to be the person you are on the inside, am
I
really going to go and throw it all away getting pregnant?

Heya C

I put on nearly 20kgs with my first baby. trust me i know what you are
talking about lol. but with my second, i knew i had to limit myself. so
it
was 12kgs. i didnt automatically think OMG wow. i can eat for two. you
can
have babies without putting on a load of weight. you really can. of
course
its just my opinion!!!! however, i would hate to think you miss out on
the
joy of children, for fear of gaining weight. you can watch ur weight and

be
pregnant and have perfectly healthy children. But that decision is yours
alone, or rather, sorry, you and ur partners. but know that just cos you

get
pregnant, doesnt mean you throw away all the hopes of having the body or
person you really are. i had two cesearean deliveries. not sure what you
mean how it will benefit having one of them. its big decisions tahts for
sure.

t


I agree with T about being able to have children without gaining too much
weight. I have 4 children (all grown now) and the most I gained was
25lbs.

I think you're doing the right thing by losing the weight first. Another
important thing to consider is exercise during the pregnancy. My doctor
said he thought the patients who exercised often had easier pregnancies
and
deliveries. I walked everyday but had to curtail cycling when the tummy
started getting in the way

Once you've reached your goal weight and have more experience with your
healthy eating and exercise plan you may find you're not as worried about
becoming pregnant and regaining too much weight.

Beverly




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Old November 21st, 2005, 09:44 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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Hi i

the situation is as follows, my eating plan is virtually 50/50 down to the
gram.

1 egg +70g veg
100g beef + 110g veg
etc, etc

what I don't think it that I'm eating enough protein to put me into Ketosis,
if I were to raise the protein to be at least more than the veg, do you
think that would work OR have I got this all wrong and 1g of veg works
differently to 1g of veg.

apologies if this doesn't read too well.

c
"Ignoramus14135" wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:23:28 GMT, Patrick@home wrote:
Thanks for the positive words Beverly.

It probably sounds strange to the men folk on the forum and would be
stranger for someone who had never been overweight.

Nut having hated being this big for so long, the thought of ruiining it
all
with child birth sends fear into me.

I think I'll take one day at a time, it could take a while for me to fall
pregnant. I should stop worring really

thanks for the support.

I don't suppose anyone knows of a ketosis expert on the forum? I'm sure
this
diet is supposed to work on that premise, instead they are selling me the
HGH tag line. My problem is, I can measure Ketosis easily at home, HGH
can't
be measured without a blood test. (painful AND expensive)


There are several people here who practice low carb eating, were or
are in ketosis, etc.

i



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Old November 25th, 2005, 06:19 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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Hi Everyone!! We have a cohens forum for Aussies at
www.weight-loss-forum.com when you log on go to weightloss forum then we are
under weightloss program, would love to hear from you all there. Cheers Chez
p.s hope i havent broken any rules writing this lol :-)

Patrick@home wrote:
Hi i

the situation is as follows, my eating plan is virtually 50/50 down to the
gram.

1 egg +70g veg
100g beef + 110g veg
etc, etc

what I don't think it that I'm eating enough protein to put me into Ketosis,
if I were to raise the protein to be at least more than the veg, do you
think that would work OR have I got this all wrong and 1g of veg works
differently to 1g of veg.

apologies if this doesn't read too well.

c
Thanks for the positive words Beverly.

[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]

i

 




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