General Rules of Induction

Here are some general rules to follow during induction that seem to get
asked every two weeks, over and over:

- Stay under 20g carbs and be strict about it. Do not think that you can eat
25 or 30, or whatever. Stay UNDER 20g.

- Eat lots of green veggies. Most of your carbs should come from fiber
filled green vegetables. The rest of the carbs will come from trace amounts
of carbs in things like cheese, eggs, and cured meats.

- Try and avoid overly processed and cured meats because they contain lots
of sodium and nitrates, which aren't good to begin with, but which can make
you retain water and seemingly "stall"

- Take psyllium husk for fiber supplements if you don't feel "regular"

- Avoid caffeine.

- Avoid aspartame if you can, just to be on the safe side.

- Avoid too many saturated fats. Try and go with mono and poly saturates,
they are healthier forms of fat.

- Take a nutritional supplement (multi vitamin), and a good one at that. You
can get a decent 3 month supply for about $7 American at Wal-Mart. Get a
good brand, not a brand like equate (Wal-Mart house brand), because better
brands are more complete in most cases.

- Get 7-8 hours of sleep regularly. You cannot "catch up" on sleep, so if
you cant get sleep, cut your losses and move on towards the next solid block
you can get sleep wise.

- Avoid weighing yourself all the time, this just creates frustration if you
don't see the scale move as much as you wish it would.

- Avoid alcohol.

- Avoid sugar alcohols (malitol, sucralose, et all)

- Avoid special "low carb" formulated foods. You can try these later on, but
induction is meant to be for cleaning your system out and breaking these
food addictions that you can get in "low carb" Atkins advantage type bar
form.

The following things are your friends.
- Peanut butter.
- Pork Rinds are an excellent substitute for crackers.
- Splenda is great.
- Sugar free Jell-O
- Beef Jerky
- Eggs
- Cottage Cheese
- Sunflower Seeds
- Peanuts (blanched, plain white)

- Carb blockers DO NOT WORK. THEY DO NOT WORK.

- Exercise can be as simple as walking a flight of stairs instead of using
the elevator.

- Ketostix are completely UNNECESSARY, and if you get them and they don't
change color, you may still very well be in ketosis, so don't sweat it.

- Your family may not be supportive, but explain your WOE to them and see
what happens.

- Use these websites
- www.fitday.com
- www.atkins.com

- Come here for support, but don't get offended if you get attacked for
asking something for the 12343524645000563493th time.

- Search Usenet for answers at http://groups.google.com

"Steven C \(Doktersteve\)" wrote:

Here are some general rules to follow during induction that seem to get
asked every two weeks, over and over:

snip very helpful list

The following things are your friends.
- Peanut butter.
- Sugar free Jell-O
- Sunflower Seeds
- Peanuts (blanched, plain white)

All of the above are ok during induction? Atkins says no nuts. Am I
confused?

There's no need to avoid caffeine.

--
JC

Eat less, exercise more.

--
"Steven C (Doktersteve)" wrote in message
news:kThVb.10968$QX4.2126@clgrps13...
Here are some general rules to follow during induction that seem to get
asked every two weeks, over and over:

- Stay under 20g carbs and be strict about it. Do not think that you can
eat
25 or 30, or whatever. Stay UNDER 20g.

- Eat lots of green veggies. Most of your carbs should come from fiber
filled green vegetables. The rest of the carbs will come from trace
amounts
of carbs in things like cheese, eggs, and cured meats.

- Try and avoid overly processed and cured meats because they contain lots
of sodium and nitrates, which aren't good to begin with, but which can
make
you retain water and seemingly "stall"

- Take psyllium husk for fiber supplements if you don't feel "regular"

- Avoid caffeine.

- Avoid aspartame if you can, just to be on the safe side.

- Avoid too many saturated fats. Try and go with mono and poly saturates,
they are healthier forms of fat.

- Take a nutritional supplement (multi vitamin), and a good one at that.
You
can get a decent 3 month supply for about $7 American at Wal-Mart. Get a
good brand, not a brand like equate (Wal-Mart house brand), because better
brands are more complete in most cases.

- Get 7-8 hours of sleep regularly. You cannot "catch up" on sleep, so if
you cant get sleep, cut your losses and move on towards the next solid
block
you can get sleep wise.

- Avoid weighing yourself all the time, this just creates frustration if
you
don't see the scale move as much as you wish it would.

- Avoid alcohol.

- Avoid sugar alcohols (malitol, sucralose, et all)

- Avoid special "low carb" formulated foods. You can try these later on,
but
induction is meant to be for cleaning your system out and breaking these
food addictions that you can get in "low carb" Atkins advantage type bar
form.

The following things are your friends.
- Peanut butter.
- Pork Rinds are an excellent substitute for crackers.
- Splenda is great.
- Sugar free Jell-O
- Beef Jerky
- Eggs
- Cottage Cheese
- Sunflower Seeds
- Peanuts (blanched, plain white)

- Carb blockers DO NOT WORK. THEY DO NOT WORK.

- Exercise can be as simple as walking a flight of stairs instead of using
the elevator.

- Ketostix are completely UNNECESSARY, and if you get them and they don't
change color, you may still very well be in ketosis, so don't sweat it.

- Your family may not be supportive, but explain your WOE to them and see
what happens.

- Use these websites
- www.fitday.com
- www.atkins.com

- Come here for support, but don't get offended if you get attacked for
asking something for the 12343524645000563493th time.

- Search Usenet for answers at http://groups.google.com

"Jean M." wrote in message
...
"Steven C \(Doktersteve\)" wrote:

Here are some general rules to follow during induction that seem to get
asked every two weeks, over and over:

snip very helpful list

The following things are your friends.
- Peanut butter.
- Sugar free Jell-O
- Sunflower Seeds
- Peanuts (blanched, plain white)

All of the above are ok during induction? Atkins says no nuts. Am I
confused?

Well, 2.5 oz of peanuts is 20g carbs.
2.5 oz of sunflower seeds is 16g carbs.

If you need a snack and it is an emergency, these are acceptable.

Think about it.
If peanut butter is ok during induction as a snack (a tablespoon of it is
great).... :-)

"Steven C \(Doktersteve\)" writes:
If peanut butter is ok during induction as a snack (a tablespoon of it is
great).... :-)

Peanut butter is not on the acceptable foods list for Induction.

However, Atkins does allow for "other combinations of foods adding up
to 20g carbs" (paraphrased). I don't particularly like that loophole,
but only because it allows trigger foods. And nuts, to some people,
are addictive - thus you exceed your carb limit way too easily. I'd
put them on the no-no list. Hey, it's only two weeks.

"DJ Delorie" wrote in message
...

"Steven C \(Doktersteve\)" writes:
If peanut butter is ok during induction as a snack (a tablespoon of it
is
great).... :-)

Peanut butter is not on the acceptable foods list for Induction.

However, Atkins does allow for "other combinations of foods adding up
to 20g carbs" (paraphrased). I don't particularly like that loophole,
but only because it allows trigger foods. And nuts, to some people,
are addictive - thus you exceed your carb limit way too easily. I'd
put them on the no-no list. Hey, it's only two weeks.

Great help for this thread.
Thanks for the clarification.

If this group had a FAQ or charter, it would make life much easier for those
who have been around for a bit.

http://tinyurl.com/3b5yw


What the **** do you think RRzVRR is posting every day?
Damn boy, wake the **** up already.
--
JC

Eat less, exercise more.

--
"Steven C (Doktersteve)" wrote in message
news:XPiVb.11465$QX4.3124@clgrps13...

"DJ Delorie" wrote in message
...

"Steven C \(Doktersteve\)" writes:
If peanut butter is ok during induction as a snack (a tablespoon of it
is
great).... :-)

Peanut butter is not on the acceptable foods list for Induction.

However, Atkins does allow for "other combinations of foods adding up
to 20g carbs" (paraphrased). I don't particularly like that loophole,
but only because it allows trigger foods. And nuts, to some people,
are addictive - thus you exceed your carb limit way too easily. I'd
put them on the no-no list. Hey, it's only two weeks.

Great help for this thread.
Thanks for the clarification.

If this group had a FAQ or charter, it would make life much easier for
those
who have been around for a bit.

"Steven C \(Doktersteve\)" wrote:


"Jean M." wrote in message
...
"Steven C \(Doktersteve\)" wrote:

Here are some general rules to follow during induction that seem to get
asked every two weeks, over and over:

snip very helpful list

The following things are your friends.
- Peanut butter.
- Sugar free Jell-O
- Sunflower Seeds
- Peanuts (blanched, plain white)

All of the above are ok during induction? Atkins says no nuts. Am I
confused?

Well, 2.5 oz of peanuts is 20g carbs.
2.5 oz of sunflower seeds is 16g carbs.

If you need a snack and it is an emergency, these are acceptable.

Think about it.
If peanut butter is ok during induction as a snack (a tablespoon of it is
great).... :-)

I'm not being nitpicky, just clarifying. If we're calling it
Induction, it should follow the Atkins rules and not what we think
might be ok. :-) It could be that there are conflicting statements,
even from Atkins. I've found a few. But this is what is online, and it
doesn't include jello or pork rinds or nuts:

http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/15-464579.html
"Eat nothing that isn't on the Acceptable Foods list. And that means
absolutely nothing. Your "just this one taste won't hurt"
rationalization is the kiss of failure during this phase of Atkins."

and
http://tinyurl.com/24v69
"Are nuts and seeds okay on Induction even though they have
carbohydrates?

Atkins is not about eating no carbs. It is about controlling carb
intake and eating those that are most nutrient-dense. Different nuts
and seeds have different percentages of fat, protein and carbohydrate.
We don't recommend eating them during the first two weeks of
Induction. But after that if you are continuing to lose steadily, you
can try introducing some. Note, however, that nuts and seeds may
contain mold, which could trigger an allergic response.

However, it is worth mentioning that nuts are notoriously hard to eat
in moderation. One leads to another until you may have eaten several
ounces. Try buying the one- or two-ounce packets so you won't be
tempted to over indulge."

"Jean M." wrote in message
...
"Steven C \(Doktersteve\)" wrote:


"Jean M." wrote in message
...
"Steven C \(Doktersteve\)" wrote:

Here are some general rules to follow during induction that seem to
get
asked every two weeks, over and over:

snip very helpful list

The following things are your friends.
- Peanut butter.
- Sugar free Jell-O
- Sunflower Seeds
- Peanuts (blanched, plain white)

All of the above are ok during induction? Atkins says no nuts. Am I
confused?

Well, 2.5 oz of peanuts is 20g carbs.
2.5 oz of sunflower seeds is 16g carbs.

If you need a snack and it is an emergency, these are acceptable.

Think about it.
If peanut butter is ok during induction as a snack (a tablespoon of it is
great).... :-)

I'm not being nitpicky, just clarifying. If we're calling it
Induction, it should follow the Atkins rules and not what we think
might be ok. :-) It could be that there are conflicting statements,
even from Atkins. I've found a few. But this is what is online, and it
doesn't include jello or pork rinds or nuts:

http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/15-464579.html
"Eat nothing that isn't on the Acceptable Foods list. And that means
absolutely nothing. Your "just this one taste won't hurt"
rationalization is the kiss of failure during this phase of Atkins."

and
http://tinyurl.com/24v69
"Are nuts and seeds okay on Induction even though they have
carbohydrates?

Atkins is not about eating no carbs. It is about controlling carb
intake and eating those that are most nutrient-dense. Different nuts
and seeds have different percentages of fat, protein and carbohydrate.
We don't recommend eating them during the first two weeks of
Induction. But after that if you are continuing to lose steadily, you
can try introducing some. Note, however, that nuts and seeds may
contain mold, which could trigger an allergic response.

However, it is worth mentioning that nuts are notoriously hard to eat
in moderation. One leads to another until you may have eaten several
ounces. Try buying the one- or two-ounce packets so you won't be
tempted to over indulge."

yeah yeah. I get it.
Thanks.

As I already said, I appreciate extra info in this thread. As long as it
helps new people, its all fine to me, and I take no offense, but your point
has been well made :-)

"Steven C \(Doktersteve\)" wrote:

As I already said, I appreciate extra info in this thread. As long as it
helps new people, its all fine to me, and I take no offense, but your point
has been well made :-)

I hope I didn't sound rude, I didn't mean to. You posted some very
good advice. There is a FAQ that is posted daily. I don't know if it's
official or not.