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I'm sure this question has been asked.. But: Does it really work?



 
 
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  #21  
Old February 24th, 2007, 04:15 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
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Default I'm sure this question has been asked.. But: Does it really work?

my scale is my second best helper on WW, Lee
Teri wrote in message
...

"Ivan" wrote in message
oups.com...
Okay.. So I started the WW diet yesterday..
I consumed 18 points and felt so full I could not eat another bite..
Which was great, really.
I weighed and measured myself, and kept track of everything I ate
during the day.
Today is day 2, and going well so far..

The only thing that bothers me is how expensive everything is..
Sure, I don't have to buy the WW meals.. But often when I cook I tend
to have trouble with portion sizes..

I bought a ww cookbook in costco and made 2 recipes from it ( I bought it

3
days ago!!). My husband raved about the first recipe and it wasn't too

hard
to portion (servings made = 4, split recipe in quarters and don't come

back
for seconds :-) and was fairly simple to make. Yesterday I made a

manhattan
clam chowder (ww recipe) in the crockpot and 1 1/2 c = 2 points, so I
allowed myself 2 full cups. I, too, need to invest in a scale for food.
Teri




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Old February 24th, 2007, 04:18 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
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Default I'm sure this question has been asked.. But: Does it really work?

the bison like the venison I eat still shrinks even though the fat content
is reduced, and WW has before cooked weights as well as cooked on the
database, I use those when making stews, Lee
Drachen wrote in message
...
unless you go for bison, which is heartier in flavour, and almost zero
fat...

but if you're making a stew, wouldn't the juices and fat remain within the
stew? therefore wouln'dt not taking out 1/4 of the weight be detrimental

to
the overall amount?

I've also found that if I roast the beef or bison beforehand in the oven,
its a lot tender and tastier in the stews... you could also roast the
potatoes and carrots all together, then just cut them up with your onions
garlic and other veggies to simmer for a short bit...



"Willow Herself" wrote in
message . ..
When I make things like stews, or casserole (where I won't be picking

out
the meat cubes to weigh them!!) I weigh the food ahead and take out

about
1/4 of the weight. That's about what meat loses as it cooks.
Will~

"greenbanks" wrote in message
...
"Teri" wrote in message
news
I just bought a Salter scale ... stainless steel. Do you weigh the

meat
before or after you cook it (does it even matter that much?). From

that
cookbook I made chicken breasts w/broccoli rabe, raddicchio, onions
garlic and spinach fettucine... which was just out of this world ...

even
my 8yo scarfed it down.
Teri

Definitely after. You're cooking off some of the fat, even in lean

meats.
You'll enjoy the control you get with a scale.
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M'Lou







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Old February 24th, 2007, 04:30 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
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Default I'm sure this question has been asked.. But: Does it really work?

I think it is lean but am not sure. glad we can help... as to the points I
have to eat every one of mine, others do not, this is a thing you must learn
for your own body... and there is another tip for you to keep in mind... you
did not fail if you don't lose, what you have done is given yourself a
lesson of how to eat better, if you gained you can review your food journal
and figure out why... also watch your weight loss pattern as after about
eight weeks or so you will see a pattern that is there, again good luck, Lee
Ivan wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi all..
And wow, thanks so much for all your replies!!

Okay.. Yes, I'm 6'1" and weigh 250.. On the first day I couldn't eat
more than 18 points.. Second day I managed to go up to 21..
I do have a WW book, one that lists all the points for different food
items, including competitor's brands.. Which has really helped out,
especially when eating things like vegetables and fruits..

But will the diet not work for me because I'm under eating?
I work in IT, and thus do not move around too much during the day..
Which is probably why I'm rarely hungry..
I will start walking during the week.. Although I've said that in the
past and never have..

I'll be investing on a food scale as some of you suggested, and will
definately try to start cooking.. I love cooking, but never really
been a big fan of measuring .. I normally cook by 'feel', and hate
measuring. Perhaps a habit I should get used to.


It seems like there is a great support group in this NG, so I will
definately be coming back in to ask for advise when needed..


I will see if I can get a cook book. The other day, funnily enough the
day after I started WW, at the train station they were giving out WW
stuff..
I got a bag with WW chocolate mousse, a WW protein bar, breakfast
cereal, a box of skim milk.. What else.. Ooh, and a WW magazine!!
The mag had lots of really good recipes, so I will read through it and
perhaps make something up tonight.



I'll let you know how it goes.


Ooh, and also, does anyone know how lean kangaroo meat is, in
comparison to beef?




Cheers,

Ivan.



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Old February 24th, 2007, 04:34 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
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Default I'm sure this question has been asked.. But: Does it really work?

that sounds a good balance if a bit short on vegetables... you can cut that
food budget by getting a different brand of peaches and pointing them from
your calculator... go and shop for the best nutrition/point value per
serving... then get that to about 2 or 3 choices, then shop for money value
from the better nutrition choices, Lee
Ivan wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 23, 1:24 pm, "Laura" wrote:
Where do you live that you have kangaroo meat? I'm guessing you are not

in
the USA. The points in the WW materials are for US nutritional info.

Maybe
that's why you only counted 18 points. Can you post your menu for the 2

days
so we can see what you are eating?



I am, in fact, in Australia -- hence the availability of Kanga-meat.
Not that I'm a big fan, but I heard that it is extremly lean.

I left my book at home today, but from memory, this is what I ate:

Breakfast
Bowl of WW cereal (one serving) and soy milk (1/2 cup) (4 1/2 points)
Black Coffee

Mid-morning snack
WW Peaches (1/2 point)
Black Coffee

Lunch
WW frozen meal -- Beef hot pot (I can't remember, but think it was 3
1/2)
Two WW choc-chip cookies (1 point)
Black Coffee

Afternoon snack
WW Peaches (1/2 point)
Black Coffee

Dinner
WW Beef lasagne (again, can't remember, but believe it was 5 points)
2 glasses of red wine (I think 3 points)

Dessert
1 cup canterlope (1/2 point)
WW Jello (0)
Black Coffee





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Old February 24th, 2007, 04:35 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
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good for you, Lee
Ivan wrote in message
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Oh, and today..

This is today's menu, as I can remember it better than the day of 18.

Breakfast:
Two weetbix hi-bran + 1 cup soy milk ( 5 points )

In between:
Box of V8 vegetable juice. (1 1/2 points)

Morning snack:
Two choc-chip WW cookies ( 1 point)
Black Coffee

Lunch:
Tuna Sandwitch (white bread, can of WW tuna, alfalfa sprouts and
tomato) (not sure how many points that is. I'm thinking around 5.)
Black Coffee

Nothing else yet.

Not sure about dinner. I will attempt at cooking something, as I'm
having my folks over.



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Old February 26th, 2007, 12:15 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
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Default I'm sure this question has been asked.. But: Does it really work?

Hi all, and thanks again for all your replies and helpful advise..

I went to a birthday party on Saturday evening and thought I had blown
it by eating what I did.. I did keep to one plate, and tried getting
things that I knew I wouldn't regret getting, such as chicken instead
of pork, no gravy, greens and cous cous instead of pasta salads, fruit
for dessert instead of cake..

I didn't really count the points of the food I ate, but I did note
them down and guestimated about 17 points. I think I ate a total of
about 28 points that day. Much more than any other day I've had since
started the diet.

The next day (yesterday), I grilled out chicken and again, had lots of
fats and oils with roasted veggies (potatoes and the like)..

And today, I thought to myself, surely I must have put on some weight
over the weekend..


So I measured myself, and compared it to when I originated the diet..

Albeit the change not being big, I did shrink by half a centimeter!!
Which, was surprising, really, as the third day into the diet I had
gained a centimeter from when I measured myself originally..

Overall, a 1.5 cm loss (or half an inch) in less than a week..


Could have been water, of course, but still.. The change is welcomed
and makes me feel good. so I'll take it.

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Old February 26th, 2007, 12:25 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
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Default I'm sure this question has been asked.. But: Does it really work?

and the small changes to others that may have seen your plate are huge
changes for you, and if you keep to that philosophy you will do fine, good
for you!!! Lee
Ivan wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi all, and thanks again for all your replies and helpful advise..

I went to a birthday party on Saturday evening and thought I had blown
it by eating what I did.. I did keep to one plate, and tried getting
things that I knew I wouldn't regret getting, such as chicken instead
of pork, no gravy, greens and cous cous instead of pasta salads, fruit
for dessert instead of cake..

I didn't really count the points of the food I ate, but I did note
them down and guestimated about 17 points. I think I ate a total of
about 28 points that day. Much more than any other day I've had since
started the diet.

The next day (yesterday), I grilled out chicken and again, had lots of
fats and oils with roasted veggies (potatoes and the like)..

And today, I thought to myself, surely I must have put on some weight
over the weekend..


So I measured myself, and compared it to when I originated the diet..

Albeit the change not being big, I did shrink by half a centimeter!!
Which, was surprising, really, as the third day into the diet I had
gained a centimeter from when I measured myself originally..

Overall, a 1.5 cm loss (or half an inch) in less than a week..


Could have been water, of course, but still.. The change is welcomed
and makes me feel good. so I'll take it.



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Old February 26th, 2007, 07:28 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
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Default I'm sure this question has been asked.. But: Does it really work?

Don't be lulled into believing that you can continue to go overboard for
long...Loss and gain is not always reflected by the scale...As many here
will tell you...I spent the last 2 weeks ratcheting up my walking to almost
8 miles a day and showed a weight loss of .02 Lb Granted I'm close to goal
and possibly I'm building up muscle...For me over the last year or so I've
had many events or situations which caused me to overdue it...Sometimes
planned sometimes not but I always wake the next day and continue on my
journey towards my goal...I certainly don't want to preach but beware of
constant falls from the wagon it a recipe for disaster in my humble
opinion...Good luck in your journey...GG

"Ivan" wrote in message
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Hi all, and thanks again for all your replies and helpful advise..

I went to a birthday party on Saturday evening and thought I had blown
it by eating what I did.. I did keep to one plate, and tried getting
things that I knew I wouldn't regret getting, such as chicken instead
of pork, no gravy, greens and cous cous instead of pasta salads, fruit
for dessert instead of cake..

I didn't really count the points of the food I ate, but I did note
them down and guestimated about 17 points. I think I ate a total of
about 28 points that day. Much more than any other day I've had since
started the diet.

The next day (yesterday), I grilled out chicken and again, had lots of
fats and oils with roasted veggies (potatoes and the like)..

And today, I thought to myself, surely I must have put on some weight
over the weekend..


So I measured myself, and compared it to when I originated the diet..

Albeit the change not being big, I did shrink by half a centimeter!!
Which, was surprising, really, as the third day into the diet I had
gained a centimeter from when I measured myself originally..

Overall, a 1.5 cm loss (or half an inch) in less than a week..


Could have been water, of course, but still.. The change is welcomed
and makes me feel good. so I'll take it.



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Old February 26th, 2007, 09:29 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
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Old February 28th, 2007, 01:01 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
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Ivan wrote:
Okay.. So I started the WW diet yesterday..
I consumed 18 points and felt so full I could not eat another bite..
Which was great, really.


No, not really... You need to eat almost all those points to lose in a
healthy way. Don't go too lean and mean! cut out a little volume
stuff, and save a little treat for the end of the day...

I weighed and measured myself, and kept track of everything I ate
during the day.
Today is day 2, and going well so far..


Don't weigh and measure every day! Pick a time and weigh once a week,
at that time and never in between! That way madness lies... Weight
naturally fluctuates from day to day, so keep a once a week score only.

The only thing that bothers me is how expensive everything is..


Cooking for yourself is a LOT cheaper than buying ready meals!

Sure, I don't have to buy the WW meals.. But often when I cook I tend
to have trouble with portion sizes..


Weigh everything. Look at the guides in the books if you can... For
example, a portion of fillet steak is a steak the size of a pack of
cards, a baked jacket potato should be about the size of a standard
light bulb, a portion of full fat cheese is the size of a standard box
of matches... 2 oz of uncooked rice is a single portion.

Does anyone have any tips in regards to this?


If you don't have any kitchen scales, get some. The WW scales can help
you point everything you eat as you weigh it. And follow some WW
recipes, paying attention to the number of portions the recipe serves.
If it serves 4, portion it out and freeze the un-eaten portions in
single portion packs for other days...

I'm really looking forward (granted, with skeptisism) to discovering
my weight next week..


You'll lose if you steer it right! not every week, but you'll get
there!

The reason why I'm skeptical is because yesterday, after eating 18
points, I felt like I've eaten more than I normally do.. And that was
only 18 points.. Considering my height and weight and level of
activity, I should be eating 26-29 points!!


See my comment above. I bet you packed yourself full of zero point
veggies or something, leaving less room for the proteins you also need
to do this right.

I won't be going to the meetings for now.. Mainly because of lack of
time, though mostly because of money issues.. I'll stick to counting
my own points and using the support of my girlfriend..


I'm 6'1" and my weight at the moment is 250lbs.
Waist is 44 inches.

I will report next week with my new measurements, as well as an
updated report of how I feel about WW.

In the mean time, if someone could please tell me how to avoid having
to purchase WW food (or any other frozen meals).. It'd be fantastic.

Buy some WW cook books and learn to cook your own WW meals! Many can be
frozen for later, so on days you have time, cook for the days you don't!

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