Playing games

Well, I think if you told her it would help her in planning meals that would
allow you to eat heartily rather than pick around. I had to tell my SO so
he wouldn't bring goodies home to me that I can't eat. He has asked several
times just what I can and can't eat. I have lost 30 pounds now and he is
quite pleased and supportive although he loves me no matter my shape.


Logorrhea wrote:
| Here's a point to debate. Is anyone trying to LC solo, without
| telling the folks back home? I have so far lost 11 pounds [272 to
| 261] since 8/18 without DW noticing either the weight loss or the
| fact that I'm picking my way selectively around the food in the
| evenings. That's not the full story, as I got to 259 in early
| September - but then had an unrelated health reverse which meant I
| put back 8 pounds over a month. I resumed this WOE with
| determination on October 27.
|
| Now, before anyone says anything, it is [of course] possible that
| she's noticed the difference but is deliberately saying nothing - as
| her own way of playing games with me! I don't think this is the
| case, however, as 5 years ago I grew a moustache while on vacation.
| She didn't like it, so I shaved it off on our return. It really was
| 4 days before she noticed that! More recently, she didn't even relate
| Saturday's necessary purchase of a pair of suspenders to any physical
| change in me. She is usually very observant. I guess that being
| with someone every day blinds you to infinitesimal changes, whereas
| someone you don't see in 6 months will immediately be struck by the
| difference in profile.
|
| My WOE is to organize my own breakfast and lunch, and go carefully
| with the evening meal. Weekends are tricky, because of eating with
| the kids. I tend to stabilize my weight over Saturday and Sunday,
| resuming the down-curve on Mondays.
|
| I am 6'4", and my first target is 225. After that, we'll see ...

FOB at talked on ....

Some disfunctional relationships continue for a lifetime.

Qilt Kitty wrote:
|
| Hmmm .. They've been married for 20 years - I'm sure that they would
| have ironed out any significant problems by now!

Then they are co-dependent in their mutual dysfunction - and sound pretty
stable and happy from what he posted ..

--
Kitty =^..^=
1 oz nuts MAX .. NO MORE KITTY!!!!!
168/160/130 * November Goal 155
September 17 2003

Dawn Taylor wrote:

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:18:46 GMT, "Lorelei"
announced in front of God and everybody:

Logorrhea wrote:
I would respectfully refer the Honourable Lady to the answer I gave
earlier to the Honourable Member for Luna Central:

Look, I won't speculate about your private life if you won't
speculate
about
mine. ;-)

you invited us in with your initial post. if you didn't want advice than you
should call your post a (rant) or (vent).

Is this James Williams again?

it doesn't appear to be from reading his headers, but that doesn't mean
they haven't been spoofed. i doubt it, though.

It's a newsgroup and everyone is entitled to her/his opinion. There is
little use in disputing opinions, as they are neither right nor wrong. As
in anything in life, take what you can use, and leave the rest.

"Logorrhea" wrote in message
...

"ConnieG999" wrote in message
...
I do have to say, though, that from what you describe, it doesn't SEEM
as
if
you and your wife communicate much, or well. Length of the union doesn't
have
anything to do with communication skills - I know a couple who have been
together 52 years and barely talk at all. If you've been together 20
years,
you've worked out a system that works for the two of you, whether it's
traditional or not.

I would respectfully refer the Honourable Lady to the answer I gave
earlier
to the Honourable Member for Luna Central:

Look, I won't speculate about your private life if you won't speculate
about mine.

You may note, however, that I've left the previous smiley off this reply.
That is because your half-baked, pseudo-analytical, swivel-eyed, shallow,
flatulent, Reader's Digest quality, cartoon animadversions are baseless,
uninformed, impertinent, offensive, idiotic and wrong. Our 'system that
works' - as you buffoonishly describe it - involves constant
communication,
skeins of honesty, oceans of empathy, dozens of shared interests, several
tolerated obsessions, countless infuriating characteristics, yards of
laughter, acres of loyalty and buckets of lurve.

So - next stop the matrimonial court, I guess!

I'm sorry that I misinterpreted what you were talking about, I read your
tone wrong. Your guessing that maybe she was playing a game by pretending
not to notice your weight loss for some reason conjured up the phrase "mind
games" which conjured up "manipulation, immaturity." I understand now that
you meant it in a playful way, and that you laugh about the mustache thing,
but for some reason I got the impression that you were angry or resentful
that she didn't notice the mustache. My questions about your reasons for
not telling her that you're low-carbing were not meant to be critical, I
really just wanted you to clarify what you were talking about because I
meant what I said right at the beginning, that I didn't understand your
situation. Maybe I was being too prying, but I thought you wanted to get
to know us and for us to get to know you, and I am interested in people and
I do like getting to know people, so that's really all I was trying to do.
I put my personal business on this group all the time, which a small but
vocal minority seems to have a problem with, but the majority are helpful
and understanding. Thank you for clarifing your original post in such a
polite way, it would have been very easy to take offense and tell me to
butt out. You're a gentleman even to me, and I'm certainly no lady.

--
-Michelle Levin (Luna)
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna

Roger Zoul wrote:

M.W.Smith wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::
::: M.W.Smith wrote:
::::: Logorrhea wrote:
:::::
:::::: "Luna" wrote in message
:::::: ...
::::::
:::::: Look, I won't speculate about your private life if you won't
:::::: speculate about mine. ;-)
::::::
::::::
::::::: I don't understand. Why would you be keeping your new
::::::: lifestyle a secret from your wife?
::::::
:::::: What *I* don't understand is this mania to tell everybody every
:::::: aspect of one's life at all times. I'm not keeping a secret. I
:::::: don't ask her to choose my suits, or select my new motorbike. I
:::::: don't seek a veto over her actions. Maybe I don't regard this as
:::::: being as radical as a 'new lifestyle', but as an adaptation.
:::::: Frankly, I'm finding the regime utterly simple to adhere to - so
:::::: far.
::::::
:::::: This is just a game, right, as in the subject line; no more than
:::::: a playful enterprise that we will both laugh about, whatever
:::::: happens.
:::::
::::: Well, being on the Atkins diet is a health issue. There
::::: apparently have been cases of individuals getting into
::::: severe medical strife while on the diet, possibly caused by
::::: or agravated by the diet. I would think you would owe it to
::::: your partner to tell him/her what you are doing, so that if
::::: you are suddenly rushed to the hospital unconscious, the
::::: doctor who treats you will have the full picture of your
::::: medical situation.
:::::
:::
::: Please provide at least some proof of this claim....
:::
::: Just because someone says they are doing Atkins doesn't make it so.
::
:: What claim do you want proof for?

The one about being on the Atkins diet is a "health issue" apparently
supposed by this busines about individauls getting into severe medical
strife while ont he diet...and then the expectation that somone might be
rushed to the hospital unconscious because they were on the Atkins diet...

But being on the Atkins diet is a health issue. That's why
you're on the Atkins diet, so you will have to prove it
isn't a health issue if you disagree. If a person is trying
to lose 25, 50, or a 100 lbs or more, it's a health issue.
We had the discussion here about an article about one man
who experienced a potassium imbalance and was rushed to the
hospital. A potassium imbalance can occur on a low-carb diet
with lots of water drinking and intense exercise, and a
potassium imbalance can be a very serious medical problem.
Without the water drinking, dehydration can occur, and
dehydration can be a very serious medical problem. Even the
exercise can cause serious medical problems if one begins a
daily exercise program suddenly after many years of a
sedentary lifestyle. Changing body chemistry in a such a
major way should be done carefully. If you disagree, then
you should provide proof that it is safe to do carelessly.

martin

I live alone but friends I see every day haven't noticed I've lost 42
pounds. If my Dad was still here he'd notice he always did.

"Luna" wrote in message
...
I'm sorry that I misinterpreted what you were talking about, I read your
tone wrong.

snip

No problem. Your comments were sensible, but wrongly-based solely because I
unwittingly used the provocative word 'games'.

Thank you for clarifing your original post in such a
polite way, it would have been very easy to take offense and tell me to
butt out. You're a gentleman even to me, and I'm certainly no lady.

I can't believe either half of that last sentence.

"Lorelei" wrote in message
ink.net...
you invited us in with your initial post. if you didn't want advice than
you
should call your post a (rant) or (vent).

Aye. Fair enough. If I *had* burst through the ASDLC curtains with a rant
or a vent, I'd have prefaced it so. I just have a quaint, old-fashioned
belief that it is utterly crass to start hurling 'marriage guidance', as an
automatic suggestion, at the head of someone previously wholly unknown to
them. I'll never start a fight. I didn't ask for advice, at all. I merely
floated the question of 'going solo' to be debated, to which I have had
several thoughtful responses and just a couple of replies from
knuckle-dragging numnutzes. Which I suppose is a surprisingly good hit-rate
for Usenet, really.

"Dawn Taylor" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:18:46 GMT, "Lorelei"
announced in front of God and everybody:
Is this James Williams again?

Dawn
(because this is starting to sound familiar ...)

Who he? No, not I!