does oranage juice cause weigth gain?

On Apr 6, 4:52 pm, "Annie" wrote:
Does orange juice cause weight gain?
I drink one cup of orange juice every morning.
I do not drink coffee, tea, soda.

I was told orange juice has too many calories and does cause weight gain?
Any fact to this?

I used to run 5+ miles on hills 5*/week even though winter and rain. I
squeezed myself 3 oranges, a grape and a lime every time after I ran.
I didn't get sick for 3 years in a row, despite most of my coworkers
having flu every winter. I live near the Alps.

I probably overdid it, but, at that time, I trained real hard and also
smoked. Smoking reduces your vitamin C levels, so... It had no side
effects on me.
Now I have the same amount 2-3 times a week maybe, or when I feel I
need it. I am still an active runner though.

The organce juice I drink is from frozen concentrated real orange juice.
I do not think they add any sugar to the juice, or do they?
I read the label, it does not specify any added sugar.

dedaman wrote:
On Apr 6, 4:52 pm, "Annie" wrote:
Does orange juice cause weight gain?
I drink one cup of orange juice every morning.
I do not drink coffee, tea, soda.

I was told orange juice has too many calories and does cause weight gain?
Any fact to this?

I used to run 5+ miles on hills 5*/week even though winter and rain. I
squeezed myself 3 oranges, a grape and a lime every time after I ran.
I didn't get sick for 3 years in a row, despite most of my coworkers
having flu every winter. I live near the Alps.

I probably overdid it, but, at that time, I trained real hard and also
smoked. Smoking reduces your vitamin C levels, so... It had no side
effects on me.
Now I have the same amount 2-3 times a week maybe, or when I feel I
need it. I am still an active runner though.

That sounds fine to me. The problem is that as we age, cortisol and
insulin linger longer in our blood: half an hour for a kid; 12 hours for
old people. If you're burning off the sugar within a couple hours, or
just taking enough to raise a low blood sugar level to normal, that
shouldn't cause any trouble. (It would make more sense to me to drink
the juice before the run, though.)

My grandmother used to drink the juice of two oranges and half a lime
every morning. But that was much less than a cup. On the other hand,
she wasn't running!

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Marshall Price of Miami
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Annie wrote:
The organce juice I drink is from frozen concentrated real orange juice.
I do not think they add any sugar to the juice, or do they?
I read the label, it does not specify any added sugar.

No. If they added sugar, it would be on the label, and the fructose in
orange juice is actually sweeter, gram for gram, than table sugar.

Eating fat, protein, or fiber immediately afterwards would slow the
absorption of sugar, too -- though not as much as if you'd eaten the
food before drinking the juice, or for that matter, if you'd eaten
oranges instead.

It's drinking orange juice alone (especially low-pulp or filtered, or
any quickly absorbed sugar-rich beverage) that can be a problem,
especially if you're satisfying a craving that way. Chances are, you'll
"crash" half an hour later, and be hungrier than ever, and possibly
depressed; the insulin will lock down the fat in your body, making it
temporarily inaccessible (perhaps for one half to three hours, depending
on your metabolism), and the cortisol will break down elastin and
collagen in your tissues -- not a good idea unless you like thin,
sagging, wrinkly, inelastic skin.

If you do drink orange juice alone on an empty stomach, make a note to
ask yourself half an hour later how you feel. Some people are more
prone to low blood sugar (hypoglycemia) and some less, but generally
speaking, if you blood sugar is low, you'll feel less energetic and
possibly somewhat moody. And you may be tempted to eat, especially some
sort of "comfort food."

(Coffee -- even decaffeinated and without sugar -- can have similar
effects, but for different reasons.)

--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c

"Marshall Price" wrote in message
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Annie wrote:
The organce juice I drink is from frozen concentrated real orange juice.
I do not think they add any sugar to the juice, or do they?
I read the label, it does not specify any added sugar.

No. If they added sugar, it would be on the label, and the fructose in
orange juice is actually sweeter, gram for gram, than table sugar.

Eating fat, protein, or fiber immediately afterwards would slow the
absorption of sugar, too -- though not as much as if you'd eaten the food
before drinking the juice, or for that matter, if you'd eaten oranges
instead.

It's drinking orange juice alone (especially low-pulp or filtered, or any
quickly absorbed sugar-rich beverage) that can be a problem, especially if
you're satisfying a craving that way. Chances are, you'll "crash" half an
hour later, and be hungrier than ever, and possibly depressed; the insulin
will lock down the fat in your body, making it temporarily inaccessible
(perhaps for one half to three hours, depending on your metabolism), and
the cortisol will break down elastin and collagen in your tissues -- not a
good idea unless you like thin, sagging, wrinkly, inelastic skin.

If you do drink orange juice alone on an empty stomach, make a note to ask
yourself half an hour later how you feel. Some people are more prone to
low blood sugar (hypoglycemia) and some less, but generally speaking, if
you blood sugar is low, you'll feel less energetic and possibly somewhat
moody. And you may be tempted to eat, especially some sort of "comfort
food."

(Coffee -- even decaffeinated and without sugar -- can have similar
effects, but for different reasons.)

--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c

Well, now I learn. But the Costco frozen orange does not show any added
sugar. I used to get up every morning around 8am and drink one glass of
orange juice from frozen concentrated.
Then, work until around noon or 1pm. Then, I feel hungry and eat a light
lunch. Typically a cup of whole wheat mix with some dry fruit, such as
resins.
Then, not until 6pm, then, I have a dinner of a small plate of veggie and
rice and couple pieces of fish.

I do like to loss 10 pounds. I ran few miles, if the weather permits.

"Marshall Price" wrote in message
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dedaman wrote:
On Apr 6, 4:52 pm, "Annie" wrote:
Does orange juice cause weight gain?
I drink one cup of orange juice every morning.
I do not drink coffee, tea, soda.

I was told orange juice has too many calories and does cause weight
gain?
Any fact to this?

I used to run 5+ miles on hills 5*/week even though winter and rain. I
squeezed myself 3 oranges, a grape and a lime every time after I ran.
I didn't get sick for 3 years in a row, despite most of my coworkers
having flu every winter. I live near the Alps.

I probably overdid it, but, at that time, I trained real hard and also
smoked. Smoking reduces your vitamin C levels, so... It had no side
effects on me.
Now I have the same amount 2-3 times a week maybe, or when I feel I
need it. I am still an active runner though.

That sounds fine to me. The problem is that as we age, cortisol and
insulin linger longer in our blood: half an hour for a kid; 12 hours
for old people. If you're burning off the sugar within a couple hours,
or just taking enough to raise a low blood sugar level to normal, that
shouldn't cause any trouble. (It would make more sense to me to drink
the juice before the run, though.)

My grandmother used to drink the juice of two oranges and half a lime
every morning. But that was much less than a cup. On the other hand,
she wasn't running!

--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c

I had been led to believe fructose doesn't increase insulin. Is that not
true? And if insulin stays elevated longer than the associated elevated
blood glucose in older people, wouldn't that cause a problem with the
blood glucose dropping too low?

Annie wrote:
"Marshall Price" wrote in message
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Annie wrote:
The organce juice I drink is from frozen concentrated real orange juice.
I do not think they add any sugar to the juice, or do they?
I read the label, it does not specify any added sugar.
No. If they added sugar, it would be on the label, and the fructose in
orange juice is actually sweeter, gram for gram, than table sugar.

Eating fat, protein, or fiber immediately afterwards would slow the
absorption of sugar, too -- though not as much as if you'd eaten the food
before drinking the juice, or for that matter, if you'd eaten oranges
instead.

It's drinking orange juice alone (especially low-pulp or filtered, or any
quickly absorbed sugar-rich beverage) that can be a problem, especially if
you're satisfying a craving that way. Chances are, you'll "crash" half an
hour later, and be hungrier than ever, and possibly depressed; the insulin
will lock down the fat in your body, making it temporarily inaccessible
(perhaps for one half to three hours, depending on your metabolism), and
the cortisol will break down elastin and collagen in your tissues -- not a
good idea unless you like thin, sagging, wrinkly, inelastic skin.

If you do drink orange juice alone on an empty stomach, make a note to ask
yourself half an hour later how you feel. Some people are more prone to
low blood sugar (hypoglycemia) and some less, but generally speaking, if
you blood sugar is low, you'll feel less energetic and possibly somewhat
moody. And you may be tempted to eat, especially some sort of "comfort
food."

(Coffee -- even decaffeinated and without sugar -- can have similar
effects, but for different reasons.)

--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c

Well, now I learn. But the Costco frozen orange does not show any added
sugar. I used to get up every morning around 8am and drink one glass of
orange juice from frozen concentrated.
Then, work until around noon or 1pm. Then, I feel hungry and eat a light
lunch. Typically a cup of whole wheat mix with some dry fruit, such as
resins.
Then, not until 6pm, then, I have a dinner of a small plate of veggie and
rice and couple pieces of fish.

I do like to loss 10 pounds. I ran few miles, if the weather permits.


I must confess that I may have been unduly influenced by reading a book
by Nicholas Perricone, /The Perricone Prescription/, and by watching his
shows on television. After reading the page about him at
http://www.quackwatch.org , I'm less persuaded.

On the other hand, according to /Metabolism at a Glance/, 3ed by J. G.
Salway, "fructose is metabolized rapidly in humans, having a half-life
of 18 minutes. In fact, it disappears from the circulation twice as
rapidly as glucose." It "is able to enter muscle cells and adipocytes
in the absence of insulin...." (So it avoids the rate-limiting step
controlling glucose absorption.)

Furthermore, the pectin in fruits (according to /Understanding
Nutrition/, 8ed, p 97) prolongs GI transit time, "delays glucose
absorption," (and, I suspect, that of fructose as well), and "lowers
blood cholesterol." But when drinking fruit juices, as opposed to
eating whole fruits, you're avoiding these protective benefits.

I was warned against drinking orange juice alone (as you've been doing)
when I was diagnosed with hypoglycemia, but that advice may not be
applicable to everybody.

However, that sort of eating (substituting a glass of orange juice for a
balanced meal) certainly isn't in line with the standard dietary advice
advanced by the government, the United Nations, or any reputable sources
of nutritional information that I'm aware of.

So I'm not sure whether it raises glucose, insulin, or cortisol levels
(as soft drinks do, and as I read that orange juice did, too), but I am
convinced it may give you a quick rush of energy, it's not a good habit,
and the most reliable authorities advise against it.


--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c

Del Cecchi wrote:
"Marshall Price" wrote in message
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dedaman wrote:
On Apr 6, 4:52 pm, "Annie" wrote:
Does orange juice cause weight gain?
I drink one cup of orange juice every morning.
I do not drink coffee, tea, soda.

I was told orange juice has too many calories and does cause weight
gain?
Any fact to this?
I used to run 5+ miles on hills 5*/week even though winter and rain. I
squeezed myself 3 oranges, a grape and a lime every time after I ran.
I didn't get sick for 3 years in a row, despite most of my coworkers
having flu every winter. I live near the Alps.

I probably overdid it, but, at that time, I trained real hard and also
smoked. Smoking reduces your vitamin C levels, so... It had no side
effects on me.
Now I have the same amount 2-3 times a week maybe, or when I feel I
need it. I am still an active runner though.
That sounds fine to me. The problem is that as we age, cortisol and
insulin linger longer in our blood: half an hour for a kid; 12 hours
for old people. If you're burning off the sugar within a couple hours,
or just taking enough to raise a low blood sugar level to normal, that
shouldn't cause any trouble. (It would make more sense to me to drink
the juice before the run, though.)

My grandmother used to drink the juice of two oranges and half a lime
every morning. But that was much less than a cup. On the other hand,
she wasn't running!

I had been led to believe fructose doesn't increase insulin. Is that not
true?

I must confess I don't know, and had simply assumed it did. I did read
somewhere that excessive fructose presented problems for diabetics, but
I've put my main diabetes-related book out of reach. I hope somebody
else will contribute some insight!

I also wonder whether fructose may cause any rebound effect, the way
glucose and sucrose can.

And if insulin stays elevated longer than the associated elevated
blood glucose in older people, wouldn't that cause a problem with the
blood glucose dropping too low?

Ordinarily it would, which is problematic enough, but when complicated
by insulin resistance, it causes hyperglycemia, an even worse problem.


--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c

OK. Is V-8 a good alternative for orange juice, then?

Annie wrote:
OK. Is V-8 a good alternative for orange juice, then?

Sure, but it's still not a good idea using a glass of juice to
substitute for a healthy breakfast. None of the calories in V-8 come
from fat; they're almost all from sugars (according to the label) -- and
the reason you want it is to get some energy. But an all-sugar source
of calories is going to make you feel worse later.

Simply eating a big breakfast is a better approach, according to studies
of successful dieters, as reported recently in "Consumer Reports." They
reported getting up to 50% of their daily caloric intake from breakfast
alone -- and I'm sure it wasn't mainly from sugars.

And I know of no evidence that breakfast should be different from other
meals. If you put half your supper in the fridge and re-heated it for
breakfast, that might help. Eating late in the evening is a major no-no.

For breakfast, you certainly want some protein, fat, and fiber, not only
to retard the absorption of carbohydrates, but also to provide energy
throughout the morning and avoid a ten-o'clock slump and a ravenous
appetite at lunchtime.

So have a little V-8 while the microwave's heating up your leftovers,
but don't over-do it! :-)


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Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c