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Old September 1st, 2004, 03:59 AM
Linda Mathes
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I am starting my diet today (September 1st) and would like to
know if the chart below is somewhat correct. I used this
formula many years ago but my memory isn't the best. Are
the numbers in the left column correct? If not, could you
please correct them and repost? Sorry if this is off topic.

Linda


1200-1800 calories per day = Lose weight
2100-2600 calories per day = Maintain weight
2800- +++ calories per day = Gain weight.

I'll be on the 1,800 calories per day diet. I'll also be
walking briskly for 30 minutes a day. Thanks for all input.
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Old September 1st, 2004, 05:51 AM
Don Klipstein
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In article , Linda Mathes wrote:
I am starting my diet today (September 1st) and would like to
know if the chart below is somewhat correct. I used this
formula many years ago but my memory isn't the best. Are
the numbers in the left column correct? If not, could you
please correct them and repost? Sorry if this is off topic.

Linda


1200-1800 calories per day = Lose weight
2100-2600 calories per day = Maintain weight
2800- +++ calories per day = Gain weight.

I'll be on the 1,800 calories per day diet. I'll also be
walking briskly for 30 minutes a day. Thanks for all input.


Depending on how much or how little exercise, some people can maintain
weight at 2,000 calories per day and gain with 2500 calories per day.

Depending on how much exercise you get besides that 30 minute walk
(probably good for burning about 150 calories) you may lose only a pound a
week, possibly even less. Then again, maybe more - easily more if you get
exercise besides that 30 minute walk.

One thing to watch for - packaged diet foods are allowed to have the
calorie count on their labels off by up to 20% according to a newspaper
article that I read several years ago.

- Don Klipstein )
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Old September 1st, 2004, 05:51 AM
Don Klipstein
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In article , Linda Mathes wrote:
I am starting my diet today (September 1st) and would like to
know if the chart below is somewhat correct. I used this
formula many years ago but my memory isn't the best. Are
the numbers in the left column correct? If not, could you
please correct them and repost? Sorry if this is off topic.

Linda


1200-1800 calories per day = Lose weight
2100-2600 calories per day = Maintain weight
2800- +++ calories per day = Gain weight.

I'll be on the 1,800 calories per day diet. I'll also be
walking briskly for 30 minutes a day. Thanks for all input.


Depending on how much or how little exercise, some people can maintain
weight at 2,000 calories per day and gain with 2500 calories per day.

Depending on how much exercise you get besides that 30 minute walk
(probably good for burning about 150 calories) you may lose only a pound a
week, possibly even less. Then again, maybe more - easily more if you get
exercise besides that 30 minute walk.

One thing to watch for - packaged diet foods are allowed to have the
calorie count on their labels off by up to 20% according to a newspaper
article that I read several years ago.

- Don Klipstein )
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Old September 1st, 2004, 03:57 PM
Heywood Mogroot
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Linda Mathes wrote in message ...
I am starting my diet today (September 1st) and would like to
know if the chart below is somewhat correct. I used this
formula many years ago but my memory isn't the best. Are
the numbers in the left column correct? If not, could you
please correct them and repost? Sorry if this is off topic.

Linda


1200-1800 calories per day = Lose weight
2100-2600 calories per day = Maintain weight
2800- +++ calories per day = Gain weight.

I'll be on the 1,800 calories per day diet. I'll also be
walking briskly for 30 minutes a day. Thanks for all input.


Sounds good enough. Try 1800 -- but whether you use fitday.com or
just eyeball it make sure you really closely control (ie regularize,
eat the same quantity every day) and have an *accurate* appreciation
of how many calories you're taking in. Then eat this way for 3-4
weeks, and weigh yourself weekly to see the trend. If you're losing
more than 2lbs/week, eat a bit more. Less than 1lb/week, exercise
more/faster/longer. Repeat each week until you reach goal.

What I did find helpful was weighing myself daily, and graphing my
*average* weight:

today's gain/loss = today's weight - yesterday's average
today's change = today's gain/loss * 10%
today's average = yesterday's average + today's change

eg. let's say yesterday's average was 210.0lbs and today's weight is
209.0

today's gain/loss = -1.0lbs
today's change = -0.1lbs
today's average = 209.9lbs

if you do this every day you really filter out daily weight swings and
get a much better daily picture of what's going on -- I think this is
much better than weighing weekly or monthly, ***as long as you really
regularlize your daily food intake***. if your diet is highly
variable, then tracking it daily is just kind of useless, and you're
better off tracking it weekly or monthly.

what I found that worked is that this should not be a "diet" but a new
way of eating and looking at food. Don't do any eating regimen now
that you won't want to keep doing 5 years from now.

Don't even bother.

Heywood

(44"/36"/33")
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Old September 1st, 2004, 03:57 PM
Heywood Mogroot
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Linda Mathes wrote in message ...
I am starting my diet today (September 1st) and would like to
know if the chart below is somewhat correct. I used this
formula many years ago but my memory isn't the best. Are
the numbers in the left column correct? If not, could you
please correct them and repost? Sorry if this is off topic.

Linda


1200-1800 calories per day = Lose weight
2100-2600 calories per day = Maintain weight
2800- +++ calories per day = Gain weight.

I'll be on the 1,800 calories per day diet. I'll also be
walking briskly for 30 minutes a day. Thanks for all input.


Sounds good enough. Try 1800 -- but whether you use fitday.com or
just eyeball it make sure you really closely control (ie regularize,
eat the same quantity every day) and have an *accurate* appreciation
of how many calories you're taking in. Then eat this way for 3-4
weeks, and weigh yourself weekly to see the trend. If you're losing
more than 2lbs/week, eat a bit more. Less than 1lb/week, exercise
more/faster/longer. Repeat each week until you reach goal.

What I did find helpful was weighing myself daily, and graphing my
*average* weight:

today's gain/loss = today's weight - yesterday's average
today's change = today's gain/loss * 10%
today's average = yesterday's average + today's change

eg. let's say yesterday's average was 210.0lbs and today's weight is
209.0

today's gain/loss = -1.0lbs
today's change = -0.1lbs
today's average = 209.9lbs

if you do this every day you really filter out daily weight swings and
get a much better daily picture of what's going on -- I think this is
much better than weighing weekly or monthly, ***as long as you really
regularlize your daily food intake***. if your diet is highly
variable, then tracking it daily is just kind of useless, and you're
better off tracking it weekly or monthly.

what I found that worked is that this should not be a "diet" but a new
way of eating and looking at food. Don't do any eating regimen now
that you won't want to keep doing 5 years from now.

Don't even bother.

Heywood

(44"/36"/33")
  #6  
Old September 1st, 2004, 03:57 PM
Heywood Mogroot
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Linda Mathes wrote in message ...
I am starting my diet today (September 1st) and would like to
know if the chart below is somewhat correct. I used this
formula many years ago but my memory isn't the best. Are
the numbers in the left column correct? If not, could you
please correct them and repost? Sorry if this is off topic.

Linda


1200-1800 calories per day = Lose weight
2100-2600 calories per day = Maintain weight
2800- +++ calories per day = Gain weight.

I'll be on the 1,800 calories per day diet. I'll also be
walking briskly for 30 minutes a day. Thanks for all input.


Sounds good enough. Try 1800 -- but whether you use fitday.com or
just eyeball it make sure you really closely control (ie regularize,
eat the same quantity every day) and have an *accurate* appreciation
of how many calories you're taking in. Then eat this way for 3-4
weeks, and weigh yourself weekly to see the trend. If you're losing
more than 2lbs/week, eat a bit more. Less than 1lb/week, exercise
more/faster/longer. Repeat each week until you reach goal.

What I did find helpful was weighing myself daily, and graphing my
*average* weight:

today's gain/loss = today's weight - yesterday's average
today's change = today's gain/loss * 10%
today's average = yesterday's average + today's change

eg. let's say yesterday's average was 210.0lbs and today's weight is
209.0

today's gain/loss = -1.0lbs
today's change = -0.1lbs
today's average = 209.9lbs

if you do this every day you really filter out daily weight swings and
get a much better daily picture of what's going on -- I think this is
much better than weighing weekly or monthly, ***as long as you really
regularlize your daily food intake***. if your diet is highly
variable, then tracking it daily is just kind of useless, and you're
better off tracking it weekly or monthly.

what I found that worked is that this should not be a "diet" but a new
way of eating and looking at food. Don't do any eating regimen now
that you won't want to keep doing 5 years from now.

Don't even bother.

Heywood

(44"/36"/33")
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Old September 1st, 2004, 06:13 PM
Boemsi
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:59:17 -0400, Linda Mathes wrote:

I am starting my diet today (September 1st) and would like to
know if the chart below is somewhat correct.


Yes, but it depends also on your current weight and basic activity level
(i.e. what you do for work). People with more weight and higher activity
will loose weight whilst eating more calories than people who sit behind a
desk all day and are thin.

I used to eat 9x my weight in pounds for daily calory intake, but please
also pay attention to the build-up of those calories. You want to find a
good balance between fat, carbs and protein.

--
-- Boemsi
207 - 192 - 180




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Old September 1st, 2004, 08:27 PM
Gordon Burditt
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I am starting my diet today (September 1st) and would like to
know if the chart below is somewhat correct. I used this
formula many years ago but my memory isn't the best. Are
the numbers in the left column correct? If not, could you
please correct them and repost? Sorry if this is off topic.

Linda


1200-1800 calories per day = Lose weight
2100-2600 calories per day = Maintain weight
2800- +++ calories per day = Gain weight.

I'll be on the 1,800 calories per day diet. I'll also be
walking briskly for 30 minutes a day. Thanks for all input.


There really isn't a chart like this that applies to all people.
It doesn't even apply to the same person at different weights.

The chart probably isn't too far off for adults with weight goals
typical of normal-sized adults.

You burn X amount of calories per pound of body weight, where X
varies due to a number of factors, most of which you can't change
quickly:

- sex (male or female)
- metabolism
- ratio of fat vs. muscle
- amount of exercise (this you can change quickly, but getting into the
habit of more exercise regularly is harder)

This means that the exact same food can cause gain, loss, or
maintenance in people with the same metabolism and exercise (or the
same person at a different weight). For example, a 2000 calorie/day
diet (often used in examples on food labels) might cause a 50-pound
child to gain quickly, a 150-pound man to maintain weight, and a
300-pound man to lose quickly.

Suppose, for example, that you maintain weight with X = 12 calories/day
per pound of body weight. (I think there are tables of typical
values for these numbers based on sex and activity, but they will
vary for individuals. The number I'm using is made up but it isn't
totally bogus) Base your calorie budget on your GOAL weight. This
is what you'll need to get used to eating to maintain your weight
when you reach your goal. If your goal is 150 pounds, then you can
maintain weight at 1800 calories/day. You can also use the formula
in reverse: if you insist on eating 5400 calories/day, and you don't
exercise a LOT more, your weight is likely to stabilize at 450
pounds.

Once you figure the calorie budget to maintain weight, reduce it
somewhat (I believe 500 calories per day below maintenance = 1 pound
per week loss) to actually progress toward it with reasonable speed
(assumes you're trying to lose, not gain). This may not be necessary
if you've got a huge amount to lose until you get closer to the
goal.

Gordon L. Burditt
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Old September 1st, 2004, 08:27 PM
Gordon Burditt
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I am starting my diet today (September 1st) and would like to
know if the chart below is somewhat correct. I used this
formula many years ago but my memory isn't the best. Are
the numbers in the left column correct? If not, could you
please correct them and repost? Sorry if this is off topic.

Linda


1200-1800 calories per day = Lose weight
2100-2600 calories per day = Maintain weight
2800- +++ calories per day = Gain weight.

I'll be on the 1,800 calories per day diet. I'll also be
walking briskly for 30 minutes a day. Thanks for all input.


There really isn't a chart like this that applies to all people.
It doesn't even apply to the same person at different weights.

The chart probably isn't too far off for adults with weight goals
typical of normal-sized adults.

You burn X amount of calories per pound of body weight, where X
varies due to a number of factors, most of which you can't change
quickly:

- sex (male or female)
- metabolism
- ratio of fat vs. muscle
- amount of exercise (this you can change quickly, but getting into the
habit of more exercise regularly is harder)

This means that the exact same food can cause gain, loss, or
maintenance in people with the same metabolism and exercise (or the
same person at a different weight). For example, a 2000 calorie/day
diet (often used in examples on food labels) might cause a 50-pound
child to gain quickly, a 150-pound man to maintain weight, and a
300-pound man to lose quickly.

Suppose, for example, that you maintain weight with X = 12 calories/day
per pound of body weight. (I think there are tables of typical
values for these numbers based on sex and activity, but they will
vary for individuals. The number I'm using is made up but it isn't
totally bogus) Base your calorie budget on your GOAL weight. This
is what you'll need to get used to eating to maintain your weight
when you reach your goal. If your goal is 150 pounds, then you can
maintain weight at 1800 calories/day. You can also use the formula
in reverse: if you insist on eating 5400 calories/day, and you don't
exercise a LOT more, your weight is likely to stabilize at 450
pounds.

Once you figure the calorie budget to maintain weight, reduce it
somewhat (I believe 500 calories per day below maintenance = 1 pound
per week loss) to actually progress toward it with reasonable speed
(assumes you're trying to lose, not gain). This may not be necessary
if you've got a huge amount to lose until you get closer to the
goal.

Gordon L. Burditt
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Old September 1st, 2004, 08:27 PM
Gordon Burditt
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I am starting my diet today (September 1st) and would like to
know if the chart below is somewhat correct. I used this
formula many years ago but my memory isn't the best. Are
the numbers in the left column correct? If not, could you
please correct them and repost? Sorry if this is off topic.

Linda


1200-1800 calories per day = Lose weight
2100-2600 calories per day = Maintain weight
2800- +++ calories per day = Gain weight.

I'll be on the 1,800 calories per day diet. I'll also be
walking briskly for 30 minutes a day. Thanks for all input.


There really isn't a chart like this that applies to all people.
It doesn't even apply to the same person at different weights.

The chart probably isn't too far off for adults with weight goals
typical of normal-sized adults.

You burn X amount of calories per pound of body weight, where X
varies due to a number of factors, most of which you can't change
quickly:

- sex (male or female)
- metabolism
- ratio of fat vs. muscle
- amount of exercise (this you can change quickly, but getting into the
habit of more exercise regularly is harder)

This means that the exact same food can cause gain, loss, or
maintenance in people with the same metabolism and exercise (or the
same person at a different weight). For example, a 2000 calorie/day
diet (often used in examples on food labels) might cause a 50-pound
child to gain quickly, a 150-pound man to maintain weight, and a
300-pound man to lose quickly.

Suppose, for example, that you maintain weight with X = 12 calories/day
per pound of body weight. (I think there are tables of typical
values for these numbers based on sex and activity, but they will
vary for individuals. The number I'm using is made up but it isn't
totally bogus) Base your calorie budget on your GOAL weight. This
is what you'll need to get used to eating to maintain your weight
when you reach your goal. If your goal is 150 pounds, then you can
maintain weight at 1800 calories/day. You can also use the formula
in reverse: if you insist on eating 5400 calories/day, and you don't
exercise a LOT more, your weight is likely to stabilize at 450
pounds.

Once you figure the calorie budget to maintain weight, reduce it
somewhat (I believe 500 calories per day below maintenance = 1 pound
per week loss) to actually progress toward it with reasonable speed
(assumes you're trying to lose, not gain). This may not be necessary
if you've got a huge amount to lose until you get closer to the
goal.

Gordon L. Burditt
 




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